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God is bored with continuous success and happiness
« on: May 13, 2009, 07:24:56 PM »
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       Jesus did several miracles and even gave life to a dead person. But He couldn’t save Himself from crucifixion in the end.  The soldiers stated this point and mocked at Jesus.  Krishna even as boy, killed several demons who came in disguise to kill Him. Same Krishna, grown up well, couldn’t prevent a hunter who killed Him by mistake.  Krishna laughed at sage Udanka, who was ready to curse Krishna and gave cosmic vision to him.  Same Krishna didn’t control Gandhari, a common lady, giving curse to Him. Jesus and Krishna were certainly God in human forms. 

    When that is the fact, why both did not show the power of God to control the situation against to them?  There must be a message in such action, apart from God’s wish to enjoy the role of an insulted person. God is bored with continuous success and happiness and some times likes to enjoy defeat and insult also.  Apart from this self-entertainment from a negative role, there is a message for the devotees also because the action of God is always multidimensional.  Another aspect in suffering with insult is to enjoy the sins of His devotees personally and get them relieved from sins.  Another dimension is the message given to devotees regarding the defeat occurring due to their defects. 

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    Re: God is bored with continuous success and happiness
    « Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 10:03:07 PM »
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    God is bored with continuous success and happiness and some times likes to enjoy defeat and insult also.

    God by definition is everything, then what is success or happiness to Him. For He who pervades all, can there be any success, defeat, insult ??

    You get insulted by someone else - God is everywhere, there is "no one" to insult Him
    You are defeated or successful in relation to something - there is only God, what is defeat or success to Him ?

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    « Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 11:28:25 AM »
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    God is bored with continuous success and happiness and some times likes to enjoy defeat and insult also.

    God by definition is everything, then what is success or happiness to Him. For He who pervades all, can there be any success, defeat, insult ??

    You get insulted by someone else - God is everywhere, there is "no one" to insult Him
    You are defeated or successful in relation to something - there is only God, what is defeat or success to Him ?

    Om Sai Ram !

    If there is no one to insult Him then why people insulted Krishna, Jesus etc

    People insult God when He comes to this world

    When I enter the human body in becoming the human incarnation, the human beings who are egoistic and jealous do not recognize Me, the Lord of this world. They treat Me as a human being and repel against Me due to their inherent repulsion towards any greatness seen in their co-human beings. Instead of accepting Me as the greatest, they hate and even insult Me.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 12:45:08 PM »
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    Did Krishna feel that He was being insulted ? Did Jesus feel so ?

    What did Jesus say - "Lord forgive them for they do not know what they do" ! Did He feel insulted ???

    As a third person, one might feel that someone is insulting Krishna or Jesus, but They never feel so!

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    « Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 12:48:06 PM »
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    Did Krishna feel that He was being insulted ? Did Jesus feel so ?

    What did Jesus say - "Lord forgive them for they do not know what they do" ! Did He feel insulted ???

    As a third person, one might feel that someone is insulting Krishna or Jesus, but They never feel so!

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    They simply acted in that role. They are never get insulted even people insulted them in reality.

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    « Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 12:50:32 PM »
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    Did Krishna feel that He was being insulted ? Did Jesus feel so ?

    What did Jesus say - "Lord forgive them for they do not know what they do" ! Did He feel insulted ???

    As a third person, one might feel that someone is insulting Krishna or Jesus, but They never feel so!

    Om Sai Ram !

    The Lord in human form enjoyed all the insults and tragic scenes also with full bliss indicated by the sweet smile on His lips. When Sisupala abused Him, He was smiling only, which indicates His bliss. At the end, He was spectator of all His relatives including sons and grandsons killing each other and then also He was with the same smile. Infact, He killed some of His people, who remained alive! Thus what He preached, He practiced. He preached Arjuna to kill his people in the war.

     Jesus preached that one should leave parents, wife or husband, children and even life to become close to Him. He practiced it. He did not give importance to His mother and left His life also for the sake of God. This is the proof of the awareness of the unreality of the dramatic bonds in this world drama. Since the bond is strictly a feeling (quality of awareness), it can be realized as unreal even by the realized soul. For the liberated soul even the higher levels of Maya like matter and awareness can be realized as unreal. For the human incarnation, even the highest level or Mula Maya (energy) is unreal.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 12:54:20 PM »
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    We seem to be thinking on the same lines, then why this statement ?

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    « Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 12:55:54 PM »
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    We seem to be thinking on the same lines, then why this statement ?

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    God is bored with continuous success and happiness and some times likes to enjoy defeat and insult also.

    That is just to show a role model to devotees

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    « Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 12:57:25 PM »
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    That is just to show a role model to devotees

    .. That one should get bored with continuous success and happiness ? ??

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    « Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 01:04:50 PM »
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    That is just to show a role model to devotees

    .. That one should get bored with continuous success and happiness ? ??

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    The spiritual aspirant must always invite troubles and misery in his life, which are the real friends to give the advanced training. But if you analyse carefully, such misery gives you the real eternal bliss. This bliss is eternal because it is associated with misery and is not affected by misery. Thus, the real eternal bliss comes only through the misery in the sacrifice. The bliss that comes in the happiness of selfishness is always temporary. It disappears when the misery attacks it. Therefore, you must try to derive the internal bliss through the misery obtained in the sacrifice. Misery also comes by sins but such misery will not give the eternal bliss. Therefore, you should try to attain the eternal bliss by sacrificing every thing and every body in this world for the sake of the Lord in human form. Lakshmana, Bharatha, Hanuman etc. did the same. Even Jesus says that unless one sacrifices all the bonds and even is prepared to sacrifice the life by carrying his own cross for the sake of the Lord, He is not pleased with such disciple. The bliss rising from misery and associated with misery can never be effected by misery and therefore remains eternal. A person who is grown up by the poison only as the food cannot be effected by the bite of a serpent.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 01:11:15 PM »
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    I ll probably put it in a different way. One should try to handle miseries ( in general sense) and hardships (again, as felt by others) in such a way that give success and happiness. There is no need to invite miseries, we all are in miseries. Its just that some realize, while some do not.

    Whether one sees misery or success or happiness or sadness, once one understands that Sai Baba is there to take care, its all the same. Misery/success/happiness dont mean a thing to such a person!

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    « Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 12:31:45 AM »
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    I ll probably put it in a different way. One should try to handle miseries ( in general sense) and hardships (again, as felt by others) in such a way that give success and happiness. There is no need to invite miseries, we all are in miseries. Its just that some realize, while some do not.

    Whether one sees misery or success or happiness or sadness, once one understands that Sai Baba is there to take care, its all the same. Misery/success/happiness dont mean a thing to such a person!

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    Enjoy misery

    You are trying to remove the problems but the problems are only your real friends in the spiritual line. The constant existence of problems will activate you and suppress your egoism creating a favorable atmosphere for the devotion to God. The happiness will make you proud and lazy and you will be deviated from the spiritual line. Therefore scholars like to enjoy the problems which are the guiding forces in the spiritual line. Kunti asked for existence of problems continuously as a boon from Krishna. The real tears will come in misery only while praying the God. This human life is obtained as rare chance after a long time of passing through several lives of animals. Thus the animal nature is concentrated in us and the constant presence of beating stick is necessary for us to grow in the right spiritual path. Mere knowledge through words will not bring realization.

     From this point also avoiding the enjoyment of punishments is also not correct for the spiritual progress. The realized soul invites difficulties for the sake of spiritual progress. An ignorant soul tries to avoid the difficulties and invites happiness by praying God. God brings back the results of good deeds arranged in the future life cycles with reduced value like a pre-matured deposit. By this the future cycle becomes full of misery only. Sometimes we find people who are hit with misery from birth to death. These were the people who pressed God for happiness and their happiness of previous births was the fruits of good deeds drawn from the present life cycle. God arranges every human life with alternating fruits of good and bad deeds like meals with alternating sweet and hot dishes. A liberated soul invites both happiness and misery in alternating way for full entertainment.

    The happiness derived from such entertainment is continuous and is called as Ananda. Nanda means happiness. The letter ‘A’ before Nanda means continuity (Aasamantaat). The word Sukham denotes happiness which is always temporary. It disappears when misery appears. But Ananda is continuous happiness, if you can enjoy the misery also like a hot dish. A spiritual aspirant who aims at the grace of God wants to perform penance which is a rigorous Saadhana. While doing penance you create difficulties artificially by litting the fire around you. This means spiritual aspirant wants continuous misery as the guiding force.

     The happiness and richness induce egoism and inertness which are obstacles of spiritual Saadhana. You will wonder to hear the special worship performed by Me sometime back in which I uttered the Sankalpa which states that I should get severe difficulties and poverty so that Jnana, Bhakti and Vairagya (spiritual knowledge, devotion and detachment) will improve in Me. Thus if you are a realized soul, you will invite difficulties as your spiritual guru. If you are a liberated soul you will invite both for entertainment. If you go to a picture, you like to see scenes of both happiness and misery. When you take meals you like both sweet and hot dishes. Then why are you not inviting both misery and happiness in your life for entertainment? The entire creation created by God for entertainment is a mixture of day & night, summer & winter, birth & death, happiness & misery etc. The equality in the entertainment of both is called as Yoga according to the Gita (samatvam yoga uchyate).

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    « Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 12:40:16 AM »
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    Mere knowledge through words will not bring realization.

    Sincerely hope that we dont end up doing the same thing.

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