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Sai's antidepressant; COMBATTING DEPRESSION
« on: April 02, 2016, 01:33:37 PM »
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  • A post for those who are looking for spritual and Nondrug Remedies
    for Depression I've tried to look into the problem as many of the girls face depressive times in life , lacking emotional intelligence , or i call it lacking वैराग्य और ज्ञान।।। hope it helps,


    Depression is the most common mood disorder; a person with depression feels “very low.” Symptoms may include: feelings of hopelessness, changes in eating patterns, disturbed sleep, constant tiredness, an inability to have fun, and thoughts of death or suicide.

    jai sai ram

    Are you reading this post because you feel that you're going through depression??
    When it comes to a devotee's life,
    Its actually different....
    Devotees have different problems..
    E.g. people cry in someone's love, due to attachments with family , financially broke, or simply feeling lonely, feeling emptyness kinda thing,
    Craving for something that even the person don't know....etc
    but a devotee cry when he/she can't feel presence of sai baba during tough times....
    Life is undesirable for
    Many of us, we don't want toys,WE WANT THE OWNER OF THE TOYS !!""
    Maya=toys
    Lord hari= the khilone wala (i call him so)

    Many of us leave worship and god during our bad times...
    Why does this happen??
    It happens because we are defeated by our sins.... our sins always try to pull us away from sri Sai baba...
    Im not going to tell you all the diagnosis symptoms or treatment as included in our DSM manual , because thats of little use for , Devotees gone negotees (negative ) ...
    All we need to keep in mind is that we need him most all the time.be it good or bad,
    Happiness or sorrowful
    We need Sai all the time
    So how to combat depression???
    Well ! Lemme first introduce the term.....
    Depression is pessimistic view of things. It also discourages enthusiasm and stifles one’s  initiative. It may also produce despair and bring about sickness n the mind  and  body. It can  make one resort to thoughtless actions that a person  may  later regret. Much of the time such thoughts are completely unnecessary. Thus, it is imperative that we help cure depression so that people can live with more happiness, ingenuity, energy, and are thus able to reach a higher potential in life.
    The reason for depression may be different for each person, and there are a variety of causes.

    Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy (REBT) methods can be beneficially directed toward addressing both irrationalities in depressive thinking but also conditions that commonly coexist with depression such as anxiety, anger, panic, and an inappropriately low tolerance for frustration. Effectively dealing with depressive thinking and these coexisting conditions can open opportunities for fulfillment as well as for preventing depression from coming back. Among the various cognitive methods for arresting depression, the REBT method would seem to be the more comprehensive approach for defeating both depressive thinking and the sort of negative thoughts that are part of those conditions of mind that so often coexist with depression. (I personally like REBT approach , it is useful for for those who think too much...).
    There are many types of therapy available. Three of the more common methods used in depression treatment include cognitive behavioral therapy, interpersonal therapy, and psychodynamic therapy. Often, a blended approach is used.
     The best combination for the treatment of depression is a combination of cognitive therapy, behavioral therapy and interpersonal therapy.
    Cognitive therapy looks at how we think and interpret events in our lives.
    Behavioral therapy looks at what we do.
    Interpersonal therapy looks at how we relate to others and how good our communication styles are.
    These are all skills based therapies and have been shown to be effective with treating clinical depression.
    So called psychoanalytical therapies or ‘psycho-dynamic’ approaches which attempt to ‘go back’ and discover reasons for things - focussing on what went wrong rather than building on resources are contraindicated for depression and several therapists in the USA have been successfully sued for using this approach for depression.
    Depressed people often look back and mull over past hurts too much anyway, so common sense tells us that any therapy that extends this process is unlikely to be of lasting help. A depressed person may feel better in the short term when seeing a ‘psycho-dynamic’ therapist simply because of the support.
    However, thousands of pieces of research show us that lasting symptom relief is unlikely to come from these ‘pathology-focused’ approaches.
    Depressed people need hope, new skills and different ways of thinking (that baba is there for us, and the problems are temporary, even our own bodies are so temporary) to prevent future bouts of depression. ( YOU SEE HERE, NEW HOPES??? THATS NOT FOR DEVOTEES, we are depressed because we had  hopes , फिर उनपर बहुत अच्छे से पानी फिर गया ,expectations from this प्रपंच / maya world always brings disappointment so bhagwat puran says आशा ही परम दुखं READ THE STORY OF PINGLA VAISHYA IN DATTATREY 24 GURU वाला आख्यान) (get bouts of depression!!!, for that i don't think there's any cure other than true bhakti and love towards Sri Sai bAbA)It may be important to address issues from the past but the client has to become equipped and confident for living in the future.(confident that baba loves me, and he takes care of me everytime, परन्तु खुद भी तो कुछ करो, हम एक कदम उनकी तरफ बढ़ाएंगे तो वे दस कदम परन्तु जो संसार की तरफ ही मुख करके भगवान् को कोस रहा हैं उससे बड़ा नीच और दुराग्रही कौन होगा???)
    Some types of therapy teach you practical techniques on how to reframe negative thinking and employ behavioral skills in combating depression. Therapy can also help you work through the root of your depression, helping you understand why you feel a certain way, what your triggers are for depression, and what you can do to stay healthy.

    Depression कब होता हैं ?
    नकारात्मकता क्यू बढती हैं?
    जब हम इष्ट से दूर हो जाते हैं, उनकी इच्छा का ध्यान न रख केवल अपनी चलाते हैं।
    जब तमोगुण बढ़ जाता हैं इसिलिय वह तरह तरह के दोष और मानसिक विकार पैदा करता हैं।
    suicide आत्महत्या बहुत भयंकर पाप हैं क्यू की यह पाप ऐसा हैं की जिसका हम प्रायश्चित भी नहीं कर सकते।।।
    Now lets have a look at the treatment part...


    HOW THE HELL WE CAN DEFEAT THIS DEMON OF NEGATIVITY????

    Baba always says
    श्रद्धा और सबुरी
    yes shradhha and saburi
    If you don't follow these words,
    Wait for hell!!
    Seriously im not cursing you but what I've seen in my life or my observations say
    If you dont respect and follow words of guru and shashtras
    Then,
    Only his grace can save you...
    Else you can't expect God to love you in negativity ..
    A bitter truth i know....


    But yes its hard to have shradhha in depressive periods of life,
    So here im giving you a few tips,
    Follow them and thank lord hari when it works...


    Turn your life satwik using following tips...


    ● बाबा को भोग लगाकर ही खाए , चाहे कुछ भी खाना या पीना हो

    ● Live celibate life...(its always possible whether you're married or not)

    ● साईं नाथ महाराज से भक्ति मांगे

    ● Channelize your energy, utilize your time in meaningful things only,if possible ask baba before doing anything, what did i say???

    Yeah  EVERYTHING....

    ● Mind the input - 

    Dont watch negative serials or anything, no movie song or MAHABHARATA PLZ no....
    I think many less people here can interpret Mahabharata the right way... without reading it on you own or listening to the katha, you will be only misguided by the serial nd movies based on the stories of Mahabharata.... they just fabricate stories....well !! Leave this here nw....

    ● Input must be pure nd satwik= सात्विक
    Be it through eyes
    Nose
    Ears
    Skin (touch)
    Intellectual thought or something...
    Eating etc....

    ● Go vegetarian


     ● Don't talk or spend time with नास्तिक, guru निंदक & चरित्रहीन people

    ● Read miracles stories of devotees only if you feel positive after reading them, otherwise you'll end up hitting your head against the wall,
     Trust me negativity is a demon that eats up our time that must have been spent in LOVING SAI BABA

     I LOVE SAI BABA BABA BABA BABA HARI HARI HARI YEAH .....

    BELOW IS A LINK
    GIVE IT A TRY
    THANK SAI
    IF IT WORKS FOR YOU

    [Letting Go by BK Jayanti / Articles In English - New] is good,have a look at it! http://www.meditasyonyapalim.com/66619/4293/letting_go_by_bk_jayanti/hnd_V7N.aspx

    I'll try to complete the post some other day...
    Sai ram
    Shubh raatri
    Sai

    Ps
    I'd say  ज्ञान सभी दुखों की औषधि हैं
    परन्तु अपात्र की औषधि यह नहीं करता।।।
    जय साईं राम




    सोहम्
    tip  - महावाक्यो पर निष्ठां बनाये , सब दुःख भुला जायेंगे हम।।।।
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    Sai's love is antidepressant; COMBATTING DEPRESSION
    « Reply #1 on: May 09, 2016, 02:44:50 PM »
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  • jai sai ram bhaaiyo aur
    beheno

    Today a lady asked me , in a sai temple about how to overcome negativity ,i said it very much depends on food,then  i asked who cooks for you
    Then she told me that a very negative lady , cooks for the family and she keep murmuring while cooking .(its clear that she didn't love those people, i think the person she was talking about was her daughter in law)
    Here , you see
    The thoughts while cooking and quality of food does matter. offering food to the Lord shows Him our devotion and gratitude.
    I said "you can't change the person  but you can atleast offer your meals to sai , we can't forget to offer food to sai if we have any love for him.
    Now coming back to the pt.
    . The worst thing is people don't even know , what to want ,from baba, what to pray for??
    IF YOU'RE IN PAINFUL RELATIONSHIP, DONT ASK BABA FOR OTHER ONE'S LOVE, ASK BABA FOR 'विवेक'
    (THAT CAN BE HARDLY TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH AS WISDOM...)
    We all are अपूर्ण
    We can't love anyone unconditionally, we can't complete each other , no matter how much you say these kind of things to your spouse, you can never complete each other. Only sai baba and his बोध can complete us.
    Every human is craving for आनन्द that is available with lord hari and our guru sai ONLY.
    Our unjustifiable expectations make us feel depressed.
    A true bhakt can't be tensed, so depression is too away from him.
    Learned people know the qualities of a true devotee, he leaves everything on sri sai baba.
    And that's why lord krishna says that gyaani bhakt is "प्रिय " to him.
    ज्ञानी के लिय यह जगत मृग मरीचिका की भांति मिथ्या है।फिर वह इसके लिय शोक क्यू करेगा।।
    । परन्तु जब इस जगत में आनन्द ले रहे लोगो को ज्ञान की बात समझ नही आती तो जो depression से ग्रस्त है उनसे क्या आशा की जायें।
    सब अपने स्तर से ही कोई भी बात समझते हैं जैसे विवेक का अर्थ व्ही जानता हैं जिसमे स्वयं विवेक हो। 'निष्कामता' को कामी लोग मिथ्या(that it doesn't exist) बतातेे हैं क्यू की उनकी कल्पना से भी बाहर हैं निष्कामता।
    शास्त्रों की आज्ञा हैं की ब्रह्मज्ञान केवल याचना करने पर ही देना चाहिए इसिलिय कभी जीवन में कोई बोधवान , संत अथवा ज्ञानी भक्त मिले, तब उनसे याचना पूर्वक प्रश्न करे। जो प्रश्न करने में शर्माते हैं उनका भला नही हो पाता।
    खुद से पढना और जब ज्ञानी भक्त आपकी असल कमी परख कर आपको उपदेश करे इन दोनों बातो में फर्क हैं।हमे यह देखना चाहिए की हमारी मांग कही गलत तो नहीं।हम बाबा से वो मांग रहे हैं जो हमारे लिय उचित नही?
    जो होता हैं वह प्रारब्ध हैं और हमारे कर्मो का फल।
    कर्म फलों गुरु कृपा से खत्म हो सकते हैं पर प्रारब्ध चलता हैं।
    प्रारब्ध तो उदासीन को भी भोगना पड़ता हैं।
    बोध हो जाने पर भी शरीर नही छूटता , वह तो प्रराभ्धानुसार चलता रहता हैं। हमारी मुक्ति हुई नही इससे बड़ी चिंता लोग किसे समझ लेते हैं।
    इसिलिय कहते हैं
    "कुत्ता पाल लो पर गलतफहमी मत पालना"
    पहले अपनी गति के बारे में तो सोच लो, चौरासी के फेरो से पिण्ड छुड़ाया नही और रोते हैं छोटी सी बातो पर।जब इन तथाकथित depressed लोगो को जीवन के प्रत्येक क्षण का महत्व पता चलेगा फिर उन्हें सच्चा डिप्रेशन घेर लेगा  ;D वाकई भाईओ और बहनों इस जीवन की सार्थकता बाबा का प्यार पाने में हैं न की इस दुनिया का।
    दुनिया में भले ही आपके लाखो followers ho jaaye
    YouTube par करोड़ो लाइक मिल जाए
    फेसबुक पर करोडो like मिल जाए सब आपके आगे पीछे घूमे पर
    यह सब एक क्षण की भी भक्ति देने में समर्थ नही
    मुक्त करने में समर्थ नही
    मृत्यु आने पर इक भी क्षण उसे रोक पाने में समर्थ नही हैं।
    फिर किसकी चिंता??
    चिंता नही चिन्तन हो वह भी केवल प्रभु का।
    जिन्हें इतनी सी बात समझ नही आती वे अपने पापो के बोझ तले दब चुके हैं। तो भी बाबा का ही सहारा हैं।
    भक्त हर घटना में साईं इच्छा क्यू देखता हैं?
    सच बोलू तो इसिलिय क्यू की साईं जी समर्थ हैं
    उनके सामर्थ्य की कल्पना भी हम नही कर सकते
    और साईं हमपर कृपा भी करते हैं साथ ही वे हमारा भला ही करते हैं, कर्म फलों को मारो गोली बाबा तो सब ठीक करदेते हैं कुछ दिन भले ही कष्ट सहना पड़े परन्तु फिर सब अच्छा हो जाता हैं पहले से भी ज्यादा और हमारी आस्था भी बढ जाती हैं।
    भक्ति युक्त ज्ञान जिज्ञासु को आह्लाद देता हैं
    आप अपना मार्ग चुने
    उदासीन भाव आपके बस की हैं या माधुर्य
    आप ज्ञानी बनना चाहते हैं या भक्त
    इनमे वैसे फर्क नही हैं ज्ञान में भक्ति जरूरी हैं
    और भक्ति में ज्ञान
    परन्तु सबकी अपनी प्रवृति होती हैं।
    जैसे आनन्द देने वाली राम कथा प्रेमभूषण जी महाराज भी करते हैं और कृपालु महाराज जी भी प्रवचन करते हैं पर उन दोनों की बातो में जमीन आसमान जैसा अंतर दीखता हैं जबकी दोनों ही बिलकुल सही बात कहते हैं
    दोनों ही हरी के प्रेमी भक्त हैं
    प्रेम भूषण जी प्रेम भाव से परिवार में रहने की बात करते हैं और कृपालू जी उदासीन भाव से
     आपको कौन भाता हैं वह आप पर निर्भर करता हैं(वैसे आप अगर स्वयं को यह चुनने योग्य मानते हो तो भी बड़ी गलतफहमी में हो, सब गुरु को ही निर्धारित करने देना चाहिय, हमारी बुद्धि हमे धोखा देती हैं,वह पल पल बदलती हैं)
    पर कर्तव्य छोड़ने को कोई नही कहता ,वह तो करना ही होता हैं।


    जय साईं राम
    जिस कर्म से भगवद प्रेम और भक्ति बढ़े वही सार्थक उद्योग हैं।
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