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Offline nimmi_sai

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Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
« Reply #1545 on: October 15, 2007, 01:10:43 PM »
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  • priya ji ....................
    i personally feel if u lov someon from the core of ur heart ......u can never ever forget him ...becoz phir wo sacha pyaar nahi kehlaata hai ................ager wo app ko nahi mil paaye to it means ki aap ki haatho ki lakeroo main unka naam nahiiii tha .....is main na to unka koi kasoor hai na aapka .............as u know very well marriges are made in heavan ............i wont say ki aap usey bhul jaaye ...becoz love never dies ....keep loving him .......and yahi pray kijiy ki wo jahan bhi ho jisky saath bhi ho khush rahyyyy...............pyaar main koi soda nahi hota.....shaadi ager us insan se ho jaaye to aap usko dua do or na ho to badua ......?????that is wrongg na ....????bas appko khud hi strong banna padga .........kise or se baat kerny se ya kise ke uper depend na reh ker aap ko khud himmt kerni hogi ............koi bhi kise ka dookh kam nahi ker sakta ,.
    and pls dont b upset ,God definitely has plan for you and his ways are greater and his thoughts are higher. He knows what’s best for you, as he promised us he draws us in his palm and he counted our hairs so he will do good things abundantly. Keep your hope and just rely on him don’t worry at all, He is good all the times. May god bless you from his riches!!! Amen.
    nimmi
    Surrender your problem entirely to God.
    Be humble.
     Forgive all your enemies.
    Have faith. Do not doubt.
    Thank God in advance and praise Him.
    Pray from the heart.
    om sai shri sai jai jai sai
    Nimmi

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1546 on: October 15, 2007, 09:29:56 PM »
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  • om sai ram

    dear all,
    when i read posts from Priyanka nad Sairam priya i feel really feel ashamed that how one can ditch someone in love.

    well but when i ponder more on this then i feel we all ditched somewhere  and thats why we are here , reason may be anything , in my case his mom`s wish, in some one case understanding the problem , in some one horoscopes doent match bla bla bla.


    is it that we live for?

    Yesterday i got a mail from a lady to whom i met in train , leading  life as single parent of  12 yr old gal , they were going from delhi to  South for trip.

    what amazed she was, with her daughter.

    well i dont say that just live for yourself  but whta i can say is dont not surrender yourself to anyone
    not to your hubby , not to your frnd , not to your mom and da not even to sai baba

    surrender your thoughts to an extend as when u surrender your expectations grow up, when u surrender to baba then u ask him baba i surrendered then also u diodint solve my proble?

    so dear surrender your thoughts .

    Priyanka dear if it tough to change your mind focus from him then do not try to  link it sai baba , i know i m wrong but at this momemt its difficult to focus on sai baba so better do what you feel like doing , if you want to cry cry loud so that your  tears will wash your pain, if u want to run go to any ground and run like mad.

    but do what u want

    plzz take good food and good nutrition thats what want to say.

    om sahri sai

    if i have hurted any one `s feeling i m extremp,ly sorry about that.

    Sai anamika
    Om Shri Sai

    trust sai baba he will defenitely full fill our wishes and this lst will have names always but always new not old as oldies will be praying for neoones when baba make them one withier love ,

    so waht u say all

    om shri sai
    SHRI SAI BABA SAB PAR KRUPA KARO PLZZ

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1547 on: October 15, 2007, 10:06:26 PM »
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  • ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः.

    हर रात के बाद सुबह आती है...इस रात की भी कोई तो सुबह होगी.

    Baba plz be with all of us. bless us with everlasting faith & unshaken patience. Listen to our prayers Sai ma.

    We love you so much

    ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः. ॐ साई नमो नमः, श्री साई नमो नमः, जय जय साई नमो नमः , श्री सदगुरु साई नमो नमः.
    ॐ शिरडी वासाय विद्माहे सच्चिदानंदाय .
    धीमहि तन्नो साई प्रचोदयात . 

    Baba !  "Let my faith be strong & patience be unshaken"

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1548 on: October 15, 2007, 11:09:22 PM »
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  • om shri sai nathay namah

    sairam all

    when we are in pain baba feels it with us...........
    yes,no one can understand the pain.......
    but baba feels it with us and that s why we say that he is our true companion......
    and it is as much true that we cannot surrender to him by our own will..........the one whom he choses can surrender to him.
    surrendring doesn t come that easy.....u have to have the faith and patience ...the trust in the almighty......and that too is built ny the lord himself.......only then he makes u to leave all to him.....

    when u leave it to him,
    you do not fear,
    it is a trust in other words,which says
    baba i know u love me,and u will not leave me like all others did,u were there for me and will b thr wd me,i love u,u know what has been the whole situation......u were there wd me all the while.......it is in ur presence all that has happened...although it ws my fault that i culdnt listen to what u said and evn if i listened to it...i did nt care for it coz thn i didnt have that much faith in u , i didnt knw wht is patience,i culd just see things sliping off my hands and wanted to do alll things possible by hook or by crook....i was at fault....i was ignorant of th fact that god existed......that he worked wonders and changed destinies for his children.
    u love us all so much....knowing th fact tht we r here for asking materialistic things from u......we love u baba.......u knw wht i hv asked for...although it feels so small evn talkin bout it.........baba if u feel that i deserve what i got,if u feel that all that has happened is fair and good ,.... i will abide by your orders......we being ignorant souls do not know what is good or bad.....we just knw whatevr u say is law and for sure is truth...its upto u baba...u are the best judge.nd we pray to convince him...coz we all want results to b in our favour,nd thy will b......this th faith i him.....and we are ready to wait till th time he has fixed for each one of us............and for sure he tests us......our spirits...nd our faith in him

    baba himself said that we put blind faith in th human beings who ditch us.......who breach our trust...we cry.....we r broken.....
    baba said if u wana put blind faith put it in the lord,th lord never evvr ditches anyone,he s thr for each one of us always....he never lies......he favours the good.....he doesnt wear faces,that he says somethin and acts otherwise.......

    when all this happened we all were broken.....lookin here and there for some support...who all were there to hold u, to console u, what did frns say,.......move on in life,....it happenes........what did ur family ppl say.........who understood u thn????? ........u still wanted those ppl who cud help u construct things,who cud support u in getin ur love back........who was there ..........no one

    baba was still standin there waitin that when will we seek his help :'(......when will we ask him to take charge of things....and settle thm all well
    it ws my personal exp and thot of sharin it with u all yestrday.......and baba wishes to relate it here

    initially when i ws broken,not havin tht much faith in baba,i used to test him.........ws takin his name...expectin he wud come to me......nd baba did come to me......it ws to this effect tht he ws holdin my hand and takin me somwhere......it ws all dark and unknown......but i ws scared as to where he will take me...i just wanted to reach my guy nd nowhere else......i didnt trust him........i was like pullin myself away from him....nd thn bein scared i just opened my eyes......
    i ws nt asleep..i ws concious......i dnt knw if ths is called meditation........but i still regret th fact tht i didnt trust him......i shud hv hd gone wd him to th place he ws takin me to..........it never happened again.........

    welll...now  he has brot us till here........i still cnnot imagine my life wdout my guy :(........evn tht imagination makes me dead and baba knows that.....nd thn y do i need to think tht way whn baba has promised to settle all things well.... :P

    trust him,
    rely upon him
    that the only way out to each and every problem
    he holds my hand and makes me face all my weaknesses........i hide behind him.......but he s thr.......he evn carries us through when we are not able to walk thrugh those tough times.....

    he loves us irrespective of the fact that we love him , fight with him........whtever
    and whenevr i fear he simply says  MAIN HOON NA  :D (I AM THERE)

    None is capable enuf to handle any problem its better if leave it unto him......

    om sai ram

    EK HAI IS DUNIYA KA DAATA,JAANE SABKE MANN KI
    MANN MEIN HAI VISHWAS TO BANDE, BHAKTI MEIN HAI SHAKTI

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1549 on: October 15, 2007, 11:20:55 PM »
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  • Dear All,

    I admire your courage, patience and faith in the midst of the situation we are facing and thank you KeerthiSai for including me in your prayers. I pray to Baba to grant His Blessings on you, always.

    In these times of trouble, I took up to reading articles from the Mother Service Society, Pondicherry. The Mother is also a realized saint like Baba, and it is said that prayers to Her never fail. I was reading this article yesterday, and it kind of opened my eyes to the fact that God gives, but it is we who lose what we ask for because of our own weaknesses - mainly anxiety, fear, mind racing in several directions, getting over-excited etc.

    I am pasting this article for the benefit of everybody. May be we realize our contribution in creating our problems, and as a first step resolve to change ourselves. Atleast give Baba an opportunity to act. I pray for all you sisters and brother. May Baba bless us all.

    Om Sai Ram

    Article by Shri Karmayogi from The Mother Service Society, Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Pondicherry (Please mark the words in bold) :

    29. OPPORTUNITIES AND OBSTACLES

    Often I hear from devotees, “My prayer is always answered, most of the time at once. Sometimes the answer is delayed, but occasionally I get into a familiar situation. Mother grants me some unheard of rewards, more than I have been thinking of. I am overjoyed. Then one after another difficulties crop up. I am afraid of losing what has come. I pray. Things take a positive turn. A couple of days later again fresh difficulties arise. Each time difficulties arise I pray. Things change. What has come is so far out of my way that I am unable to remain calm. Constantly new problems arise. Things alternate and the end is constantly postponed. I am torn between two sides. The anxiety is so great that I even say to myself that it is better it comes to an end, let the opportunity be cancelled, I don’t mind. I am unable to stand this constant anxiety.”

    I would like to explain what a devotee can do on such occasions to help bring about the best result. I shall quote the experiences of some devotees and comment on them.

    “I am an American who has come to Pondicherry for a short visit to the Ashram. I have read Mother’s works and am devoted to Her in my own way. A visit to the Samadhi is uplifting, fills me with a peace I have not known before. I feel like sitting there for hours on end. My general tension comes down and disappears. My mind falls silent. My heart is full, full of pleasant, happy feelings. A strange fulfilment creeps over me. A friend engaged me in conversation and casually, without any intention, I mentioned to him that I have a pain in the back. At once he asked me why I should not pray to Mother for the pain to be removed. It never struck me. During my next visit to the Samadhi, I thought of taking it up as a prayer. This pain is very painful, being a back pain at the base of the spine. Several years ago when I was lifting a heavy bundle from my car’s trunk, I sprained my spine. I had medical treatment, but doctors say it cannot be fully cured. Day and night I live with it, though it is now within tolerable limits. My father has had it for over 15 years. Perhaps it runs in the family. I have learned to live with it. As a result, my general posture is slightly slanted to avoid the most painful position. It is much less now than in the beginning, but even at this level it is really painful.  I wouldn’t wish this suffering even on my enemy.

    “I visited the Samadhi the next day, concentrated, meditated and after some time, remembered to pray to Mother that my pain should go away. I fell into deep meditation. When I came to myself, I stood up and walked to my room. My friend came to visit me that evening. As our conversation began to touch upon many issues, we came to my pain. Suddenly it dawned on me that for the first time since it began, my pain had not been there at all that day. I was unable to believe my senses. How is it that I did not notice it for the whole day?  Mother had given me a gift, really a wonderful gift. My mind began to work. I thought of all the works I used to shun because of this pain. Now I could do them. I had an intimate friend who had this pain. I could tell her too about this. I could tell my father too. I thought, but I hesitated because there in America people may think I am crazy if I speak like this. My mind was full of a million thoughts.

    To my surprise, I found that the pain started coming back after two days. Again I prayed at the Samadhi. It left, but this time it left only half way. What a tragedy after that wonderful relief!  I was unable to control my thoughts. I didn’t want to lose this relief. My mind has been on fire, not being able to go either way. I just do not know what I should do to make my relief permanent.”

    Let me quote another man also:

    “I am a retired government servant who at the time of retirement was sanctioned a pension of Rs.45 per month. After retirement I started selling casurina firewood for a living. Over the past 15 years I have progressed in my business and purchased lands and raised casurina myself. Now I have a good property and I am 75. I would like to sell the casurina lands and take rest, but the 27 acres are worth only Rs.10,000 in the market. I could sell it if someone offered me Rs.27,000. I have been trying to sell the lands for the last five years. Once a buyer agreed for Rs.27,000, but the sale did not come through. After great efforts, a buyer came to me, anxious to buy it at my price of Rs.27,000. At this point I was invited to Mother’s Darshan by another old man of 70. When I returned home, to my utter astonishment, my lands had become very valuable. A fertilizer company wanted the lands. I finalised the bargain at Rs.81,000. The man was writing the agreement but stopped in the middle. He said he would come back in a week. Two months have passed. He has never come back. I am almost mad. Every car that I pass looks like his car. Every person who comes to my house looks like that man. I have lost sleep and my peace of mind. What an opportunity came my way and how quickly it faded away. My mind considers thousands of possibilities. Finally I have decided to give up and go to the man who had offered me Rs.27,000. This opportunity has become like a torture and I would rather not have it.”

    Surely the man’s plight is pitiable. It is one thing not to have the opportunity. It is another thing to get it and lose it. On these occasions, the more the mind thinks, the more the opportunity is cancelled. What can we do?  Is there anything that can be done to save the situation?  Is there anything we can do to control our thoughts?

    A girl of 31 says, “No one who has looked at my face or even photograph has wanted to see me again. So far dozens of grooms have come and gone. The last man, a man of property, a graduate, came to our house with his parents, saw me and agreed to marry me. This was a surprise to me. Between now and the wedding my one fear is that the groom’s party may cancel it. My mind runs in all directions. The anxiety is so great.”

    An engineer says, “I am working in a simple situation. People who are starting a factory for Rs.1.5 crores have offered me a share. This is too great an opportunity for me to lose. My one fear is they should not change their minds before the documents are signed.”

    We can give a dozen more examples. As a rule, on these occasions the mind is activated, one is beside himself, daydreams, builds castles, plans for the future, and again, as a rule, the expectations cancel the opportunities or shrink them to a tenth of what was first offered.

    I would say that Mother gives, but Man cancels. This is to reverse the proverb that Man proposes and God disposes. It is true that I would suggest that one should keep the mind calm so that Mother can act effectively. It is not reasonable for me to advise a person in this situation to keep his mind calm, knowing it is nearly impossible. Is there a way out?  There is.

    We know it is Mother who brought this great opportunity to us. We also know that She cannot act through impatience, anxiety, excitement or nervousness. We know Mother acts best in calm, quiet steadiness, firm faith, and great patience. People who are in such anxious conditions should try to understand this truth and resolve to be calm and unthinking. They must resolve not to be excited, not to activate the thoughts in a hundred directions. If thoughts persist, one should try not to indulge in the thoughts. Mind will become partially calm. In some cases, this resolution makes the mind fully calm, too. If, in spite of this resolution, the mind is still restive, pray to Mother for calm and patience. She certainly gives it. One by one the difficulties recede and the originally given opportunity always emerges in full measure. All who have consulted me, including those mentioned in this article, have happily and fully solved their problems in this way.

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1550 on: October 15, 2007, 11:34:27 PM »
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    > (3)Sarvamangala Mangalyai Shivaay Sarvartha Sadhikay
    > Sharanyai Trambikay Gauri Narayani Namastutay
    >
    > O! Mother Goddess, you abestow success in everything.
    > O, Mother Goddess of Success, you are giver of all types of
    > protections and peace as Shivaa (Consort of Shiva).
    > You are also the golden hued Gowri in fruition of endeavors of all
    > those who surrender to you.
    > In your capacity as Narayani (Consort of Narayana), you are remover
    > of all types of troubles. I offer my salutations of you.
    >
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    > (4)sharnaagata Deenarta Paritraana Paraayanai
    > Sarva Syaarta Haray Devi Narayani Namostutay
    >
    > O, Narayani, who is always engaged in helping her devotees
    > involved in troubles as also remover of miseries of all, I offer
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    > (5) Sarvaswaroopay Sarvaishay Sarva-Shakti-Samanvitay
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    > your manifestation is in every thing and you exist every
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    > have already surrendered to you, distress never comes near them. All

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    > (7) Sravaa Baadhaa Prashamanam Trilokya Syaa
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    > O!Mother Goddess, dweller of Universe, clear out hurdles in
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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1552 on: October 16, 2007, 12:15:22 AM »
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    Dear Va08,

    Wonderful posts. It's important to control our thoughts which tend to roam in different directions.

    As Baba said :  - "That our mind is fickle by nature, it should not be allowed to get wild. The senses may get restless, the body, however, should be held in check and not allowed to be impatient. Senses run after objects, but we should not follow them and crave for their objects. By slow and gradual practice retlessness can be conquered. We should not be swayed by the senses, but they cannot be completely controlled. We should curb them rightly and properly according to the need of the occasion"

    He alone should be the object of our thoughts..by practising this we can gain our peace of mind.3

    Om Sai Ram!
    ॐ शिरडी वासाय विद्माहे सच्चिदानंदाय .
    धीमहि तन्नो साई प्रचोदयात . 

    Baba !  "Let my faith be strong & patience be unshaken"

    -kshama

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1553 on: October 16, 2007, 12:38:57 AM »
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  • Dear Sai Bhakti,

    Yes, what Baba says is so true. Our mind creates our own problems, and then we blame the whole world for it, without ever taking responsibilty for our own selves. Our thoughts make and break us.

    Let's pray to Baba, to perform our head surgeries and make us think right  :)

    Om Sai Ram!

    There is another valuable article I found from the Mother Service Society website. I would like to share it with you :

    I think The Mother and Baba are one and the same. Their teachings are so similar, it's just amazing !

    Insoluble Problems

    There are nothing like insoluble problems for Mother. But, in the scheme of things, in the life of the devotee many problems are left unsolved which he comes to describe as insoluble problems. If problems of that description are taken up, there are two approaches that lead to solutions. One way is to change the human trait that generated the problem. That is a radical, substantial solution that would not only offer a solution to the problem on hand, but would usher the willing individual into a greater measure of prosperity. The other is to seek a limited solution. By isolating the problem from the man and his life, insulating it from other influences, concentrating our efforts on the solution, we find a solution. Either is possible.

     For the first solution, it is necessary for a man to know why a certain problem arose. If he knows it and he is willing to change in himself that trait which created the problem, then it is good. Once he makes that inner change, a prayer will readily remove the problem, however knotty it appears to be. In case he is unable to locate in himself any characteristic or attitude or activity that led to the problem, he should come forward to assume that one exists inside him and be willing to give it up, whether he knows it or not. Before taking up a prayer to solve the problem, he must pray to Mother to remove what in him has caused it.

     The second is not an attempt to change one’s inside but to aim at a limited solution, which is a total solution to the problem. A dozen methods are open to him.

     1. Intense Prayer: If one is unemployed for years or a girl’s marriage is getting postponed for 10 years or one is suffering from a chronic disease, an intense prayer will remove it. By intense prayer I mean that the devotee should go deep into himself, as deep as the problems constitute a worry in him, and from there resolve to pray to Mother. Prayer from that depth will be elevating. Should he reach such depth for prayer, he should set apart three or four days and be fully absorbed in it. The problems will melt away. As the devotee goes to a depth within himself and voices a prayer from there, the problem receives the full impact of the prayer whose intensity is equal to the problem. Naturally, it gives way.

    2. Deep Concentration: The first method of prayer and this concentration are the same in essence but their forms vary. This can be resorted to only by those to whom concentration is natural and easy. A concentration should be developed in meditation and tested for its intensity against the intensity of the problem. If it does not match, day after day the intensity of the concentration should be increased until it reaches the intensity of the problem. In a few days, one can reach it. Once it is reached, the problem can be forgotten and one can lose oneself in the concentration. The problem gives way on its own.

    3. Complete Consecration: Narrating to Mother in prayer or in imagination the sequence of events that led to the problem is called consecration. If it is done without reactions of mind, after a few sittings the knot will be broken. One significance of this method is all the harassing life events that led to the creation of this problem, once consecrated, will not recur in the life of the devotee anymore.

    4. Offering the karma: If the devotee knows now that his past actions have led to the present situation, he should offer to Mother the original acts so as to dissolve the karma at its roots. A father whose son had run away from home acknowledged that in his youth he had run away from home as a truant. His offering of his earlier actions now to Mother brought his son back to him exactly at the moment when his mind repented.

    5. Offering of the propensities that have created the karma: This is the same as offering of karma but is deeper and has a greater purifying effect.

    6. Constant remembrance of Mother: Instead of focussing on the problem, if one comes away in his mind from the problem and tries to remember Mother constantly, at the point the remembrance reaches maturity, the solution is found.

    7. Gratitude: Mother says the god of Gratitude is the youngest in the life of the earth. If one who is beset with a problem puts aside the problem itself and takes up other bright aspects of life and feels an intensely real Gratitude to Mother for each of them, before the list is fully covered, the problem will be solved.

    8. Faith: A renewal of faith in the context of the present problem and fuller affirmation leads to a solution.

    9. Higher Understanding: If one is of a mental bent, analysis of the problem in a wider context so as to arrive at a fuller understanding removes it.

    10. Grace: Grace acts on its own. For us to bring ourselves to move Grace, all that we should do is to withdraw the faith from every other aspect. That makes Grace act. For instance, when salary arrears of fifteen years are pending with the government, the mind will naturally rely on rules, procedures, etc. Grace cannot act as long as faith is there in any other aspect of life.

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1554 on: October 16, 2007, 10:39:02 PM »
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    Dear All,,

    Read all posts,, well just want to say ,, girls who are suffering this situatution since or less than one year are just saying ,, WHAT I USED TO SAY BEFORE 1 YEAR....

    But from my personal experience ,,this kind of patiance oriented & spirit oriencted talks only lasts for 1 year....

    After that human ,, become some what MAD... He feels till what time I need to handle my self...?? Not how much i need to suffer ?? When baba will help me?? SIMPLY HE ASKS WHEN????

    So I was also with full of courage till 18 months... but since 3 to 4 months ,,some times with same spirit some times feel help less.....

    So always praying to BABA..tht please dont put some one in such situation more than 1 year....

    Please have some mercy ..on ur child...

    WHAT  IS THIS BABA,, I KNOW THAT WE HAD DONE BAD KARMAS,, BUT BABA,, SAME TIME,, WE ARE ONLY HUMAN BEING NOT GOD,, WHO CAN BEAR ONLY TO SOME EXTEND..

    WHY I USED TO SAY MY PARENTS SINCE TWO YEARS ABT THE SAME PROB EVERY DAY.. WHEN SOME GROOM COME TO ME FOR WEDDING,, THT M NOT READY??

    BABA AISA KAB TAK CHALEGA,, KYA AAP NAHI THAK GAYE AAB,,MERI POOKAR SUNTE,,

    SINCE 2 YEARS ,, WHEN I WENT TO BAD,, I USED TO CRY FIRST ,, BABA DONT U HAVE ANY MERCY FOR THIS.. OR M NOT UR DAUGHTER????????

    I KNOW U R ALWAYS WITH ME.. BUT BABA ,, PLEASE I BEG U,, JUST DO IT NOW.. REALLY I CAN BEAR THIS ANY MORE...


    om sai ma

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1555 on: October 16, 2007, 11:28:18 PM »
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  • Dear SaiRang,

    I feel your pain and frustration. I have been in my current situation for 3 years, and prior to that 2 other heart-breaks. Well, I too have rejected guys, saying that I am not ready. And now I have reached the point where I have no expectations about marriage itself. If I don't get married, Baba will take care of me. If the person I wanted or want to be my husband is not the one Baba wants, that's okay. If I have to wait that's fine too.

    From my experience, SaiRang, all this anxiety and frustartion and hoping, wishing and praying led me nowhere. I was as unhappy as I was 2 years ago, when I had a break-up. Then I decided to take initiative and put an end to my suffering. I put an end to hoping, wishing and praying. Baba, knows my prayers and wish, and if He wants He can fulfill my wishes without my begging. So I stopped praying. Then I started to accept my life and my future - with the man I want or without him - as anything is possible and I decided to be open to anything. I have zero expectations about my future.

    Sri Aurobindo's and Mother Service Society's writings helped deal with my situation in a practical way and gave me the courage to face life again.

    I hope you are able to accept the given situation as is at this moment, without struggling against the present or forcing Baba to adjust the present to what you want. Accept the present and surrender the future to Baba. Don't think anything SaiRang and get busy with what life has offered you at this moment. It is a very very difficult situation, but believe me it is possible to come out of it. Things will start to get better only when you surrender and have a peaceful and calm attitude.

    I don't want to sound harsh, but really really wish that you come out of this suffering. My thoughts go to you and I admire your courage, sincerity and devotion.

    With prayers and Love.
    VA

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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
    « Reply #1556 on: October 16, 2007, 11:55:16 PM »
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    Dear Va 08,

    Very well said. There's a lot of maturity in whatever you said. surrendering to him is the only option we have. It is difficult...very difficult..but what else can we do. We have to believe that Saima will give us the best. We need to concentrate our thoughts on him rather than worrying abt future & sobbing abt the past.

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    Accept the present and surrender the future to Baba. Don't think anything SaiRang and get busy with what life has offered you at this moment.

    Dear Sairang,
    I know it's very painful to be in such a situation & to wait endlessly but does worrying alone can solve the problem? Why fear when Baba's there.
    Whatever is happening is his wish...we have to be his true daughters. Our father will not feel good if we distrust him by worrying.
    Do naama jaap dear , ur thoughts will be pacified.

    Om Sai Ram.
    ॐ शिरडी वासाय विद्माहे सच्चिदानंदाय .
    धीमहि तन्नो साई प्रचोदयात . 

    Baba !  "Let my faith be strong & patience be unshaken"

    -kshama

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    « Reply #1557 on: October 17, 2007, 02:35:26 AM »
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  • om sai all
    life is really a big quetion amrk

    we never understand whatz going on, sometimes feel that when baba has given us brain we shud use to make decision , when we make decision using that so  the life has made such problems that we can not slove only baba can solve that

    well he  is sole doer and we are the follower
    i think he gave mind to  find him but find everything else except him

    thats  human being

    well its so complicatefd that
    i can not solve that in few wrds i will say baba ji plzz help us all

    sabve us all
    and plzz bless us all

    baba plzz

    om shri Sai
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    Re: Does sai baba support love marriage
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