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Offline Kirti1

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Re: Dont Trust God
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2011, 01:34:49 AM »
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  • OM SAI RAM


    Dear Aquafish,

    With all due respects, the only intention here was to show some devotees what they are doing.
    Yes, no one here is qualified to judge or label others actions or thoughts.

    But at the same time, as devotees everyone has their ways of expressing feelings.
    That was her way of expressing her devotion.
    Others have their own ways. Or maybe their vocabulary is not sophisticated to use really polished words.

    We all love Baba and anyone else who comes here. And everyone wants to help in every possible way.

    Either ways she is not coming back to read the reaction, so its all fine.

    Baba, I want to say especially to you - If I have done anything wrong, then please forgive me, but as you
    know I get carried away with the love I have for you. self is an idiot and the most imperfect of people in this world, and
    hence the sufferings. Thank you for being there every single second of my life.

    Till Then...Keep Praying!!!



    THERE IS ONLY 1 ASPECT IN THIS WORLD THAT DOES NOT CHANGE "BABA.
    Others like, time, people, YOUR MIND, etc. are fragile and prone to frequent changes.

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    « Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 01:45:14 AM »
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  • Dear Devbani,

    This statement, I didn’t expect atleast from you. How did God hurt You. If our expectations are not met, it means God has hurt us. You are a wise Person, So not getting into bigger explanation, Leaving this question only for you, Just analyze, Why you feel so, Why God was supposed to help you, You say people who hurt you are happy, But not You. What you want now, To see them suffering in pain, to take Revenge?? Don’t you ever think, God has protected you from evil spirits, so that you can have a decent future. Just stop thinking about Past, Keep you busy in some productive tasks and then see difference in your life.

    at last, Don’t differentiate between God and Sai. Sai is only a visible form of invisible God!

    May Baba Bless You and help you to get out from this mess of Life!

    om sri sai ram!

    same feeling I have now, God always hurt me. I am always defeated by evil minded people. They are happy and enjoying life. Me still suffering pain and tears. Who hurt me ......is happy !!!! every one. I don't have faith in any God & Goddess.I have only sai deva. God can never help. He always wait to tease us. He always make all critical for me. He don't love me.                             Om sai ram baba please be with me always.....amen 

    I don't know saib ji, I always have respect for U. I don't want revenge but just once they realize and stop teasing people like this. It is God, who can manage this system. So many times I see not only me but others too, they suffers badly and teasers are happy & they never felt wrong for their act. And nothing is here to tell them that U did wrong.

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    « Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 01:56:15 AM »
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  • Saib Ji expectations as a human we can not have with anyone. This world is not good place, here it is blessing of sai deva if we have some one good in our life. But in my life I am always felt ignored, good health & love of parents are very special and every one ask for them but I am the daughter who don't have both. I am praying sai baba for others and trying for my level best yes sai is the another form of God, but sai deva always show his love........hopes all 'll come to an beautiful end. Me & Sujitha we all be happy...amen

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    « Reply #18 on: April 14, 2011, 02:27:10 AM »
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  • om sai ram devbani ji..

    try to give without expectations. try to love without asking for care in return. not a single person on dis earth is happy 24hrs a day. everyone has problems. everyone is sufering somehow. but d diference is just a few problems are visible but a few are not. like if one is unable to feed his family 3 times food per day. it is visible for others as dey can c he is not rich enuf to fulfil basic needs. and a millionaire has become insomniac coz of tensions. others cant c dat its only he who is feeling dat he is unhappy. others can just c he is wealthy enuf to buy any comfort but d actuality is different. so none can say teasers are happy or not. every1 is paying here coz of past karmas either or comitin new sins for whom he has to pay someday. but d main thing is how we react how we carry ourselves. learn to remian silent have faith in sai. ask god to take u away. revenge is useles. if someone has hurted u and u r hurtin him in return it wil only make u peaceles. think positiv.. it wil giv u positiv only.
    sai bles al..

    om sai ram..

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    « Reply #19 on: April 14, 2011, 05:47:44 AM »
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  • I know u r hurted and by seeing ur anger i can strongly say its love problem..

    but the answer y sai has not answered ur prayers is with u only. u cant ask some thing that is nt made for you, we cant demand things by reading satcharitra in 7 days or by doing vrat. coz sai knws better who suits u n who not. if we ask some thing it may be gud/bad for us bt evn others will be affeted in between. so please be patience and be couragious i knw it may be apinful situation for u bt surely sai will show u a good path.

    Many times we blame god by choosing thngs with our choice and loosing them.

    one day u will feel for sure taht hw much gud sai has given u though u missed some thng u thought is urs..

    be happy always sai plz take care of her.. she is need of ur guidance and shelter hold her she need u.




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    Re: Dont Trust God
    « Reply #20 on: April 14, 2011, 07:48:16 AM »
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  • om sai ram!

    Everything in life is temporary and subject to change except the holy name of our beloved Lord!


    Dear Aquafish,

    I wanted to reply to this post long back but wanted to read people's reactions too. how predictable. U should understand where she comes from too. I mean why would someone say such things about God unless she is truly broken. I would like to ask each one of u who claims to be a baba devotee, that "have u ever had a second or microsecond of doubt about God" if ur answer is no ur either a saint or u r denying it. as a human being u tend to doubt, cry lash out and if she can lash out at God, it shows her sense of closeness to god.

    only a small request, If you know solution of someone’s problem or can provide remedy, do it immediately. Don’t wait what others say or advice, all share their views (including me) as per their experiences and believes. So, just act fast, otherwise it may late. 

    i am not starting a vendetta or anything but please strong words like LOSER, PITY and what u know about baba can be hurtful. If u r a devotee of baba really, let people express what they feel. its their way of attaining their way to Baba. please be nice and support their views.

    Dear again, it is emotional stage, If we love someone, We take his respect as our own. If someone questions in such manner, then anger is natural. No doubt baba is so merciful, But to maintain the same level for human’s is not an easy task. Also in such cases Nature deals with such people depending their state of mind. Noone can be allowed to disgrace the Master even in the name of depression or frustration.

    Saib, I appreciate the way u said it without hurting but accommodating everyone's feelings. people dont lash out at God so freely unless they trust their God so much. I also hope she is able to vent and be able to believe that baba is there for her in every way...On a side note, Saib, i was surprised u suggested "the matrix" i definitely feel the underlying meaning behind the series is very devotional and makes u ponder about the existence of man in general.

    The Matrix – one of my favorites. You know many times I surprised why people change. Many times I have seen people whom they love more than their own life, start hating sometimes without any reason. And in many cases people whom they hate more than death, start to like and later Love beyond any limit. Such a human behavior. Then realize function of mind, a small piece of body, but most powerful, which control life of everyone through emotions and thoughts, make one’s life blissful or painful. If you just go on help me section, You will find most of the people are in pain only because of their own emotions/thoughts (expecting others to like them/Love them/Give importance to them, all self created illusions. Matrix is one which describes some functions and makes one to think who am I? Why do I Exist?

    Baba can answer any question, not difficult for him. But it is difficult for us to have right question.

    Take care Sujithra and please try to stay strong and hopefully u take all the comments in ur stride and not run away from here. I know the feeling and everyone goes through that. but remember "what does not kill u makes u stronger" Sometimes patience is needed. And control...Just meditate, read a nice book even the SSC and spend some time away from negative thoughts. U will find peace. Sometimes the restlessness of our mind makes us feel different things...

    Amen!

    Dear Devbani,

    I don't know saib ji, I always have respect for U. I don't want revenge but just once they realize and stop teasing people like this. It is God, who can manage this system. So many times I see not only me but others too, they suffers badly and teasers are happy & they never felt wrong for their act. And nothing is here to tell them that U did wrong.

    Saib Ji expectations as a human we cannot have with anyone. This world is not good place, here it is blessing of sai deva if we have some one good in our life. But in my life I am always felt ignored, good health & love of parents are very special and every one ask for them but I am the daughter who don't have both. I am praying sai baba for others and trying for my level best yes sai is the another form of God, but sai deva always show his love........hopes all 'll come to an beautiful end. Me & Sujitha we all be happy...amen

    Dear, First just change your thinking. World  is really beautiful, You know we frame such opinion on the experience. People believe all politicians are corrupt, all Govt. officers are corrupt, not true, still good and honest people exist in system, but as per our thinking, We don’t accept. Accept Sai as divine Father. Start looking at world with new perspective, It will be painful initially, as your own mind will resist, But if you remain firm, soon you will too realize world is really beautiful. Some years ago I too was of same thinking, but by the time Sai entered in my life, everything seems changed…………..

    Sure You and all will be happy ………….. but it is 99% in our hands only, because if you don’’t want you will never in spite of what the best life offered.

    at Last text from today’s holy Hukamnama:

    Sounds direct message of God!

    If someone slanders the True Guru, and then comes seeking the Guru’s Protection, the True Guru forgives him for his past sins, and unites him with the Saints’ Congregation. When the rain falls, the water in the streams, rivers and ponds flows into the Ganges; flowing into the Ganges, it is made sacred and pure. Such is the glorious greatness of the True Guru, who has no vengeance; meeting with Him, thirst and hunger are quenched, and instantly, one attains celestial peace.

    All the Best!


    om sri sai ram!
    om sai ram!
    Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
    Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
    ........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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    Re: Dont Trust God
    « Reply #21 on: April 14, 2011, 09:14:42 AM »
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  • om sai ram saib sir....

    i too really respect u alot....and look for motivation whenever i feel down....

    sir why is it so that people just use us and go away when they find something better ....?

    i feel so dejected with whatever has happened with me over past 1 month ...

    i have lost my peace of mind....

    i dint do anything wrong ...still i m being ignored..till the extent as every one behaves as if i dont exist ....:(

    it hurts sir.....y does baba do all these things....i dont feel like going to college anymore.....

    i read sai sat charitha and the problem just aggravated....dont know wht to do ....

    m getting tired of such selfish people in my life.....pls say somehting that i can concentrate on my studies....:(

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    « Reply #22 on: April 14, 2011, 11:11:27 AM »
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  • Saib Ji expectations as a human we can not have with anyone. This world is not good place, here it is blessing of sai deva if we have some one good in our life. But in my life I am always felt ignored, good health & love of parents are very special and every one ask for them but I am the daughter who don't have both. I am praying sai baba for others and trying for my level best yes sai is the another form of God, but sai deva always show his love........hopes all 'll come to an beautiful end. Me & Sujitha we all be happy...amen
    Here is nothing like revenge just a feel to the evil mind that You are doing wrong. This is my request to Lord. I am happy & satisfied because, this is a fact if I have lack of some things so some things I have more than others. But it is just pray my to sai deva please give back the human soul to the human being. As a human being I can live with all but what for the animals.............so I am not talking on my part but on as a whole............sai deva bless us all.

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    « Reply #23 on: April 14, 2011, 11:54:19 AM »
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  • wow that was intense...Catching up on the messages...

    Kirti...Sorry if my comments were harsh and my intention was not to point out anyone's vocabulary or anything..just saying that sometimes people say do weird crazy stuff and its ok sometimes and sometimes its not..but then its my opinion....I am not as devoted to baba as you guys are...well there lies my fault:) but I am getting there and maybe I am too human to figure it out...Whatever...

    Thanks Saib for pointing out some things to me. Sure helps.

    Devbani..I know sometimes that thought crosses our minds that people who don't deserve it have everything..but u know what, we dont know what they suffered in past lives or present...to each his own. So finding happiness in what we have is important. Just keep on praying..thats what i am doing...

    Ritesh..I know it hurts when people go away and all..Been through that a million times..Remember even though we crave social settings and people and friends, sometimes being ur own true friend counts...Stay strong for urself...Dont depend on others for ur happines..at least not all the time..Sometimes people don't realise ur worth. and they leave..and if it was meant to be, they come back, otherwise, cherish the good, ignore the bad and move ahead..

    take care
    Om sai ram

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    « Reply #24 on: April 14, 2011, 10:16:17 PM »
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  • my problem havent solve yet,,but then after the prayers i feel relax ...i dont no how come i can feel so relax.my problem still  in critical stage.past 3,4 days even i cannot think about anythink.mentaly i was so disturb...i know only god can help me..i beg to him...and cry like smll girl... punish my self etc..contin... i pray to god...

    baba pls protect me......

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    « Reply #25 on: April 14, 2011, 10:33:23 PM »
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  • Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

    Dear Vina,

    Baba is protecting you and giving you peace :)
    When you pray to Baba sincerely and ask him to guide you and bless you, no matter what problems we have, we still feel relaxed.. Baba is working on us :)

    Please dont punish yourself and hurt yourself.. Baba would feel hurt if you do that, as he loves you a lot.. Just pray to him, and leave everyhting at his lotus feet, he will find a solution and help you soon.. Have shraddha and saburi and everything will fall into place :)

    May Baba bestow his loving blessings on you always!

    Jai Sai Ram

    my problem havent solve yet,,but then after the prayers i feel relax ...i dont no how come i can feel so relax.my problem still  in critical stage.past 3,4 days even i cannot think about anythink.mentaly i was so disturb...i know only god can help me..i beg to him...and cry like smll girl... punish my self etc..contin... i pray to god...

    baba pls protect me......
    'I will be with you, whenever and wherever you think of Me.'

    Our Shirdi Sai Baba

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    « Reply #26 on: April 15, 2011, 12:11:39 AM »
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    May baba bless all his devotees and non-devotees so that they all become his ardent devotees!

    Good day to all!:)
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    Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

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    You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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    « Reply #27 on: April 15, 2011, 01:22:00 AM »
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    Dear All,

    Thank you all so much, especially Sujithra, who started this post.
    It has lead to some really good discussions, and some honest views.

    We are all humans at the end. Every one of us does lose their cool some time or the other.
    But the underlying emotion is always love and care for the opposite person. Some people need heavy dosages of bitter medicine. For some only a loving and caring touch heals.

    When a problem arises, or when life is done, what happens is, we tend to see ourselves in light of others at that moment.
    We see their laughter, and start counting our sorrows. But do we forget to count our blessings?? When we were on higher ground, and enjoying, they probably were struggling it out. Did we ever give that a thought?? When man's bread is another man's cake.

    the best is to shut the world. stop comparing ourselves with what others have. They may have some really horrifying personal problems, which they dont show. Do we want them too?? NO.

    So the best way out is to connect to Baba. Dont have a friend, make him your friend. talk to him just like a friend. See how he listens to  you.
    Dont have a shoulder to cry on??? take his idol in your hand and cry your heart out. See how he consoles you.

    I have done this. I actually slept with Baba's idol lying next to me. Whole night I thought I have done something awful to affect my so-called friend's future. But as the days passed, Baba made me realize that the friend had taken me for a rdie, and lied to me all along. And this was something professional, not personal, where office money of USD 11000 was involved. With Baba's help the matter was resolved.

    In difficult times, build your relation with Baba, cause anyways it doesnt matter to the world, whether you exist or not.
    So why should you worry about the world!! Look for your own spiritual upliftment.

    One last thing - BABA ANSWERS - to each and every question asked. We need the eyes and ears to see and hear him.

    Baba Bless All.

    Till then...Keep Praying!!!



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    Others like, time, people, YOUR MIND, etc. are fragile and prone to frequent changes.

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    « Reply #28 on: April 15, 2011, 07:44:42 AM »
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  • om sai ram!

    Thanks Ritesh for your appreciation. I am too an ordinary person like others, learning and growing. You remind me our college days. Most of the boys and Girls were from middle class family, who really understood how their parents were managing their studies. All were having career goals. Wanted to become this or that ………… Now after many years, when I think, most of them have got what they dreamt. Everyone was happy there, I hardly saw anyone in pain because of such issue like now a day’s young people are facing…………….. ! You know the reason, that time people were having aim for life. We all are blessed with lots of talents and energy. That energy needs to be unleashed or utilized.  IF you set a goal for you life e.g. to become a doctor, engineer or CA, You start utilizing your energy towards that Goal, If you don’t give an mission to your life, Life itself finds a mission and if don’t then It is game of Karmas alone. People feel difficult to  adopt a path in life, to take responsibility, Simple Rule if You don’t control your life, Your life will control You, and result sometimes Pain, sufferings ……………….. for no or very small reason that could be easily avoided, but as you have no control, now you are on mercy of life or conditions of life.

    Also to add, don’t get into what Baba do, How and why etc. etc. It is long way. First try to know what do you do and why? also don’t get into what others are doing, doing bad still enjoying life, when you will learn about yourself then you will come to know many strange things of life. Something’s only can be experienced and not explained.

    So, Just try to take complete responsibility of life in your own hands, change your own life. In current anti-corruption moment  I observed very interesting thing, everyone was blaming others, Wanted others to change, No one was ready to take responsibility ……………. No one say, Ok now forward I won’t pay any bribe even I have  to stand in long standing lines at govt. offices, I won’t pay to any traffic inspector, but pay full fine, I won’t use office infra for personal use etc. etc.

    We all sail in same boat, still want others to change, not ourselves. The day when we start living as per our true and divine nature, then life will begin to change. Everyone will be happy on earth. Just a dream now. :)

    also concern to concentration, sometimes ago I shared some information including time boxing and observing breathes techniques etc, will look and share again, otherwise you can simply search on google.

    Reading Sai Satcharitra, Just don’t use it as any Mantra to solve any problem, but only if you want to make baba part of your life. Read with Love, feel every word in your heart, feel presence of Baba in your life, Otherwise simply chant Sai Sai….. that’s enough.

    So, All the best. and till then, as Kirti says ……………… Keep Praying!!!

    om sri sai ram!


    om sai ram saib sir....

    i too really respect u alot....and look for motivation whenever i feel down....

    sir why is it so that people just use us and go away when they find something better ....?

    i feel so dejected with whatever has happened with me over past 1 month ...

    i have lost my peace of mind....

    i dint do anything wrong ...still i m being ignored..till the extent as every one behaves as if i dont exist ....:(

    it hurts sir.....y does baba do all these things....i dont feel like going to college anymore.....

    i read sai sat charitha and the problem just aggravated....dont know wht to do ....

    m getting tired of such selfish people in my life.....pls say somehting that i can concentrate on my studies....:(
    « Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 07:53:28 AM by saib »
    om sai ram!
    Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
    Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
    ........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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    « Reply #29 on: April 16, 2011, 08:55:52 AM »
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  • First of all I want to say Thanks  to saib ji because he is always a source of inspiration. It had happened with me so many times, when I was broken & his replies on my posts gave me strength to go ahead.
     This is always a well discussed issue that what is God’s judicial system, in which a sinner is always awarded & honest always suffered. Here once I had written a post on this topic in the starting. Some had replied me that it is by karma & then I decided to be smiling always. And do always good how much I can. It is the great kindness of sai that I am standing on his point.
    In my life I am unwanted baby of my parents! But my sisters & now bhabhi loves me a lot. I want to do job & search for it, my parents doing all effort to spoil my life but here some friend’s sai baba gave me those help me to go ahead.
     I love some one, I don’t know what happened in this respect but I must say, sai deva has better plan and future for me. Yes it is broken feeling but its ok. Now I am stronger than before.
    Last, I am living in the country where so many kids are doing bad jobs only to satisfy their hunger, I am MA in Economics, LL.B & now doing PGDBA. It is nothing just blessing of sai. Now whenever sai gave me opportunity I do help to the needy students.
    Yes I am worried now because my examinations are near but yes sai deva  is with me.
    My friend Jesu always said to me that Jesus is the only truth and just have faith in him.He hurt me a lot.My mumma always do pooja and all but still she is not peaceful. Moral is this……it doesn’t matter what is the name of book , important is this u understand the language/subject.

    Om sai ram


     


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