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Title: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 14, 2005, 12:02:37 PM
Ramesh ji / Astrid ji,
I have read the story in philosophy that Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........that is true.........then how to control that mind i am trying not to say anything back when thoughts are raised while i am in meditation but it is getting harder and harder to keep track of thoughts. I am chanting Sai's name but within no time i loose the concentration........After a minute or so i realise that i am back into my thoughts........do not know when my mind wanders . Please advise on this.

Sushma.

Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Astrid on August 14, 2005, 01:37:06 PM
Sai Ram

Sushma, my dear, nobody's perfect, we're all still learning. It happens to everybody, that thoughts wander off. The point is: don't get angry, don't blame yourself. Remain in that state of consciousness, that state of heart you enter when meditating. Stay with your intention, not with your flaws. This is achieved easiest by simply forgiving yourself. The moment you catch yourself losing concentration, simply call your thoughts back to SAI. Don't think of what was even a fraction of a second ago, think of what is: you are back at your meditation. For a start don't meditate for longer than 5 to 10 minutes at a stretch. If your thoughts wander off a thousand times during these 10 minutes - no problem, call them back 1001 times and forgive yourself. By and by you will be able to remain in your meditative state even if thoughts wander off, and they will even do so less often.

Hope, this helps you a little. Whether or not it does, however you might feel now or in future - just let us know. It is our special pleasure and blessing to share whatever we might be able to with you and all.

Om Sai Ram

Astrid

Restless was my heart till it found rest in THEE
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 14, 2005, 02:19:24 PM
Thank you sister Astrid. I will follow your advice

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 15, 2005, 12:17:22 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear....Off late I have started loving you....Nice to have you as my sister......Sushma dear by the way since how long you have been doing Meditation? I am just briefly giving you a topic....Please go through it.....may be..... you may get your answer to your question......

He who is impatient fails; he who is patient is successful. If you hurry, become impatient, it means you have not accepted suffering and are eager to be done with it. In that case you have not understood the glory of suffering. You do not know that as you suffer you are being cleansed and purified and absolved from all that is worthless and useless. You have not recognized suffering as a friend yet. It is only at that point that you attain to self-restraint. He who recognizes suffering as a friend is in no hurry. He can maintain his patience, and God is attained only through patience -- infinite patience. To attain God is not a paltry thing to be instantly attained.

You plant a seed. Seeds of seasonal plants take two to three weeks to sprout. By the sixth week they begin to flower, and at the end of twelve weeks their life cycle is over. When you plant a cedar tree it lives for one hundred years, or perhaps two, three, or even four hundred years. There are trees in America thousands of years old. They take such a long time to grow that the seed remains under the soil for years before it sprouts.

The baser pleasures of this life are quickly attainable, but they vanish as quickly. Remember the equation: the quicker attained, the earlier lost. If you want to attain God you will have to practice infinite patience.

And remember another fact: the more patiently you observe, the earlier you attain.

The more you rush the later you attain. You are the cause of the delay. Why does this happen? Because the more patient you are, the deeper inside you go. Impatience is characteristic of a shallow person; it is a sign of childishness. When little children plant a mango seed, after an hour they take it out to see whether it has sprouted yet. Then they put it back in the soil. Again they remove it to see whether it has sprouted, and again they return it to the soil. That seed will never sprout.

You must have noticed the patience and tranquillity of the villager. The city shopkeeper has little patience. The further into the countryside you go, the more peaceful and tranquil they are, because they have learned to be very patient with nature. You plant the seeds today, but you can't gather the harvest tomorrow. Long association with nature and observing the law of patience, and they become tranquil. But he who wishes to reap the harvest of the infinite must sow and toil in the field of God.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: san2004 on August 15, 2005, 01:07:55 AM
OM SAI RAM,
So very apt Ramesh Bhai so very apt.That's why Baba has always asked us for Sharddha and Saburi.
Jai Sai Ram,
Sanjiv
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 15, 2005, 10:47:24 AM
Ramesh Bhai,
   What you have said is right. Actually i wrote this because i wanted to know how you all are meditating and wanted to see if i am in the right track. Wanted to know a better way to shut my mind. Sorry if i've sounded impatient.
    I have started meditating just a week back and got scared seeing my mind wandering. Will surely wait.

Thank you Ramesh bhai and sister Astrid.

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 15, 2005, 11:06:11 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

No sorry! Sushma dear....you are definately on right track....absolutly on right track....it happens in the start...don't worry....just go on doing what you are doing......never ever stop...this is it.....it happens and will continue for many many months.....for many many years.....then only you will know....you will definately know on your own to control the thoughts.....don't put any condition to thoughts.....just go on sitting silently witnessing your thoughts like you are sitting at the bank of river....and you have no control on the flowing water.....just be a witness....slowly slowly you will understand.......let them wander....they are like your children....created and feeded by you.....you will learn on to your own.....how to reign your thoughts....You are doing very fine...don't be scared....but be regular....choose a time which suits you but be regular.....if you sometime miss.....make over the time in your next session.....but be regular....do it twice a day.....first in the morning......and again before immediately going to sleep....You are very very lovely....you will arrive....if you do it your own way.....

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 15, 2005, 11:20:21 AM
Surely will meditate regularly. Thank you so much bhai , thank you for being our bhai ......lucky me to have a brother. I just have sisters and no brothers so i have one now.

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 15, 2005, 12:12:11 PM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear.....I am giving you a very very powerful topic....It will help you more in your journey of Meditation......our life itself is a journey.....It may take some time to do it exactly....but you will be able to do it within a week's or within a fortnigh's time...then you will find a new Sushma dear.....SUSHMA THE DEAREST SISTER OF RAMESH BHAI......Excuse me.... not only Sushma but everyone who try and master this technique......

The moment you are dropping into sleep is the moment to encounter the unconscious. You have been sleeping every day, but you have not encountered sleep yet. You have not seen it: what it is, how is comes, how to drop into it. You have not known anything about it.
You have been going into sleep every night and awakening from sleep every morning, but you have not felt the moment when sleep comes, you have not felt what happens. So try this experiment, and after three months, suddenly, one day, you will enter sleep knowingly.

Drop on your bed, close your eyes, and then remember -- remember! -- that sleep is coming and you are to remain awake when it comes. This exercise is very arduous. The first day it will not happen, the next day it will not happen, but if you persist every day, constantly remembering that sleep is coming and you are not to allow it to come without being aware of it -- you must feel how sleep takes over, what it is -- then one day sleep will be there and you will still be awake.

That very moment you become aware of your unconscious. And once you become aware of your unconscious, you will never be asleep again. Sleep will be there, but you will be awake; a center in you will go on knowing. All around you there will be sleep and the center will go on knowing.

When this center is knowing, dreams become impossible; and when dreams become impossible, daydreams also become impossible. Then you will be asleep in a different sense; a different quality happens because of the encounter.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Dipika on August 15, 2005, 12:24:43 PM
OMSAIRAM!Ramesh ji,I had also being thinking on these lines.
After attending Sai Amrit Vaani at VEENA GUPTA ji's place and also during  meditation i could feel HIM to be near me.
But I have never tried Meditation.
Now I will also do as Ramesh ji says.
Thanks to Ramesh ji ,Astrid our book keeper and Sushma ji for throwing light on this topic and enlightening poor souls like me.

Sai baba let your holy lotus feet be our sole refuge.OMSAIRAM

dipika duggal
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 16, 2005, 08:54:07 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear since you are interested in Meditation......some basics...take your own time.....don't fall in any trap.....take it easy.....I know you can do it.....just a little bit but surely you will make it.....No hurry....Just be regular...It is THE only condition of Meditation.....Otherwise no such pre-conditions......slowly-slowly it start happening.......

So the first thing is that the world is only a resting place. The deeper you take in this fact, the more useful will it prove that you must not stop where you are, that stagnation is death and that you have to go further and still further... till you reach His door. You may rest if you are tired, but do not make a home out of the inn.
You are bound to get tired, for the journey is long and the destination far away. You will also wander time and again, for it is not a path that is marked out, a highway! Man has to walk himself and carve out his route.

Therefore the road to His abode is very long. As birds fly in the air and leave no trace behind, so the enlightened one walks in His path and reaches but leaves no marks behind. The space is as empty as ever.

When you set out, you cannot walk on the footprints of others. There is no loan system in the realm of truth. No one else can give you truth; others can merely suggest, give hints. Love you can get, also the guru's grace, but truth you will have to find yourself. His grace can lend strength to your feet to continue walking but cannot give you the path. His compassion can offer up confidence and encouragement, but not draw a map for you. His compassion can give you the strength to carry on and be persistent in your effort so that you do not waver, you do not give up. But you must walk the path alone.

And the path is such that it is formed only if you begin to walk. It is not a carved-out route marked on a map. There is no ready-made device to take you to God. Each person has to find his own way himself.

This is the difficulty, and this is the dignity of purpose. For if it were a well-beaten track that thousands had trodden before, the joy and fulfillment in reaching and attaining God would not have been so special.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 16, 2005, 10:46:55 AM
Ramesh bhai,

     Lets keep this post alive all the time so that whoever is new to this forum can also learn these precious lessons and will guide everyone to meditate.
       Or
we can have a separate column that helps everyone of us to read and this will not be lost in the "Sai Baba Help us" column.

What do you say bhai?

     
Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 16, 2005, 10:52:55 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear as you wish! Let it go this way....whosoever interested will find his ways.......

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Pavi on August 16, 2005, 11:01:48 AM
Om Sai Ram,

Ramesh Bahi
Even I want to start meditation, But my mind is very fluctuating. It does not stand at one thing for a second also. Because of that I use to struggle a lot while studying.
Now also I am not at all able to concentrate on work and feeling very lonely all the time.
I know Yoga, Pranayam and Rekhi also. But mind resist to do.
So how I will start meditation? Starting how much time should I practice?

Om Sai Ram

Pavitra
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 16, 2005, 11:30:57 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Pavi dear.....Just follow this post regularly....read all posts.....Without telling specific you will learn on your own....

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: saibeti on August 16, 2005, 11:52:04 PM
hey susma didi
thanks for repley me for my problem. i apriciate thatt. thanks. still i kwnow he will halp me. nway . jai sai ram. i hope sai baba also will solve your all problems and be with u 4ever.
                     jai sai ram.
                                      komal[:)]
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 17, 2005, 07:11:34 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear.......Here again I am...... How are you doing? Again and Again I will tell you to take everything as easy.....Life has no set forumlas.......You have to live life playfully.......without any preconditions.......Like wise you have to start your meditation playfully......no force.......In the start you have to make your time table.......to sit.......to sit regularly......at set time.....for 10-15 minutes.......But to sit regularly.....come what may......choose your time accordingly......your time.....I have not learned from anyone......there are thousand and one teachings....but you have to invent your own way.....The topics here will give you ideas.....and one day you will find you are medidating....on your own......it will start happening........

WALK WITHOUT FEET
FLY WITHOUT WINGS AND
THINK WITHOUT MIND

It cannot be made more exact than that. Life is so mysterious that you cannot reduce it to exact formulas. That is not possible. That will be unjust and unfair to life. A mystery has to remain a mystery.
 
If you reduce the mystery to a formula, you are being violent to reality. No explanation can explain away life. No fact can contain its truth.

You may ask me: WHAT EXACTLY, IN SIMPLE WORDS, ARE YOU TRYING TO TEACH?

Only some negative things can be said -- that I am trying to destroy the mind; that I have come to destroy, not to fulfill... because unless the old mind is destroyed utterly, the new will not be born. It is out of destruction that creativity arises. It is out of death that life blooms.

My whole work here consists in destroying the mind, its hold upon you; in destroying the roots of the mind so that you can be free in each moment of your life, so that you can be without a past. To be with a past is to be in a prison. The bigger the past, the more you are burdened with it.
 
The more you are burdened with the past, the more you become in-capable of living in the present. Then the present is only a word -- you don't experience it. And truth is always in the present. Past is only memory, and future imagination. One is no more; one has yet to be. Between the two is this small precious moment.

And you can be in contact with this precious moment only if there is no mind. Mind means past and future. Either the mind thinks of that which has gone, or of that which is to come; either of yesterdays or of tomorrows.

Jesus says to his disciples: Look at the lilies in the field -- how beautiful they are! Even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed as one of these. And they spin not, they weave not, they work not. They don't think of the morrow... What is the beauty of the lilies in the field? They live in the present.

Except for man, the existence knows no past, no future. Except for man, there is no misery. Except for man, there is no hell.

By destroying your mind and your past, I am bringing you back home so Adam can enter again into the Garden of Eden.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 17, 2005, 11:26:12 AM
Ramesh bhai,
   How are you? ........I am doing good........meditating regularly ........ What you have said about mind is true, yesterday night when i closed my eyes and meditating and watching my thoughts it were of past and future and also i could hear my husband talking to someone and my imagination was visualising their talk ..... i was just watching my thoughts wander but somehow i tried to bring back my mind to Sai Nama that i was chanting.

I was trying to watch for sleep coming but in no time i lost it.......i was surprised in the morning " Oh when did i loose the track ......"
 

Thank you Ramesh Bhai for everything your doing . As Sai had promised that He will pull us towards Him ......He is doing that with me by providing your supervision ........Thank you once again bhai.

Sai Ram thank you for showing so much love for me and everyone of your devotees.

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 17, 2005, 11:41:45 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear.....I am fine.....Just wait...Just wait.....I will ask you after few months.....no hurry.....Sushma dear No hurry.......This happen like this only......Just as I told you....In the begining don't bring back your mind.....let him wander.....let him wander like vagabond.....let him drift away.....It is your controlling makes him more wanderer....It is like your child....the more you tell your child not to do that thing.....he will go on doing that thing repeatedly.......just for few months only watch....watch him closly.....take its pulse.....watch his habbits....only watch.....we have to go long way......I am here....you are here....don't worry.....I am not going anywhere....you are not going anywhere......You will ultimately come to your HOME......BABA SAI's HOME......
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 17, 2005, 11:53:02 AM
Bhai , thank you so much for the love you have for me and to every member of this forum.....i feel your right next to me telling me "Don't worry.....Don't worry.......I am right here with you" .My eyes are filled with water while i am writing this......Thank you bhai......Thank you Sai for sending us a brother and a sister....what else can we ask for?

Sai Ram
Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 18, 2005, 11:16:52 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

<<<<Ramesh bhai, Lets keep this post alive all the time so that whoever is new to this forum can also learn these precious lessons and will guide everyone to meditate.
Or
we can have a separate column that helps everyone of us to read and this will not be lost in the "Sai Baba Help us" column.What do you say bhai?>>>>>

Sushma dear........How are you doing?  In order to keep this topic alive....I am giving you the topic....and whatever happening to you these day.......it is all pre-destined......You are already in meditation........You have real thirst.........you have intitutive mind..........Always I will emphasize....that take your life easy.......and one day not only you will medidate.......but your walking, talking, eating, working become your meditation.....Your whole life become meditation......MAY BABA SAI BLESS YOU.....and all those who are on the path of meditation.......

Whenever a person attains God he finds Him new, fresh, and original -- as if you are the first one He has met! As if this happening has never taken place before.

It is not a stale affair, it is not as if others before you have met Him -- that you find millions of footprints leading to His door. No, it is as if you are the very first person He meets. He is like a virgin waiting for you. God is always a virgin. Had He been married many times before there would be nothing of interest left in Him. His virginity is eternal; He is an eternal bachelor. Whoever reaches Him finds Him fresh, new and chaste, unspoiled as a virgin -- just as the morning dew or the first rays of the rising sun.

There is no map that can be handed over to you, for life itself is a constant change. Everything changes every moment. The way I reached will be of no use to you; it was my special way. You will have to find yours.

For Nanak says God has made infinite creatures, infinite souls. He has cast in millions and millions of colors and forms. Each one is unique. If each person is unique, unparalleled, no one person's path can be of use to another. My understanding can be of use to you but not my path. My insight can help you to find your way but your way will be entirely your own personal way. It shall bear your imprint just as your thumbprint can be only yours. There are millions upon millions of people in this world, but never will your thumbprint be repeated. If existence has caused your thumb to be unique, how much more original will your soul be! Imagine it.

Whenever a person attains God he finds Him new, fresh, and original -- as if you are the first one He has met! As if this happening has never taken place before.

It is not a stale affair, it is not as if others before you have met Him -- that you find millions of footprints leading to His door. No, it is as if you are the very first person He meets. He is like a virgin waiting for you. God is always a virgin. Had He been married many times before there would be nothing of interest left in Him. His virginity is eternal; He is an eternal bachelor. Whoever reaches Him finds Him fresh, new and chaste, unspoiled as a virgin -- just as the morning dew or the first rays of the rising sun.

There is no map that can be handed over to you, for life itself is a constant change. Everything changes every moment. The way I reached will be of no use to you; it was my special way. You will have to find yours.

For Nanak says God has made infinite creatures, infinite souls. He has cast in millions and millions of colors and forms. Each one is unique. If each person is unique, unparalleled, no one person's path can be of use to another. My understanding can be of use to you but not my path. My insight can help you to find your way but your way will be entirely your own personal way. It shall bear your imprint just as your thumb print can be only yours. There are millions upon millions of people in this world, but never will your thumbprint be repeated. If existence has caused your thumb to be unique, how much more original will your soul be! Imagine it.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 18, 2005, 04:14:26 PM
Ramesh bhai,
    I have never heard about God like this and i never realised that my soul is so unique ......How wonderful it is and whenever i am reading your posts it is making lot of difference in seeing things around and inside me ........ i cannot express that feeling but is giving  some serenity that i never felt before.......it is just wonderful......i love this state of mine ........... i feel like i have started knowing what love is and started loving everyone around me..........its not giving me anger .......... always feel calm and more engrossed in watching my thoughts rather than thinking about things going around..........

Thank you so much for showing me this path

Sai Ram

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 18, 2005, 06:48:01 PM
Today i had a woderful experience.......i have seen how loving our Sai is......i wanted to share with you all immediately because i felt even you all can feel His love.........i was just sitting and asking Sai i want to sing songs for You though i don't know much ....... I sang song "etla ninnu ethukundu namma varalaxmi thalli" which means " how can i carry you goddess varalaxmi" and my meditation started without me knowing it just went on.....i felt Goddess Laxmi play in my arms as a small kid and i am singing a lullaby to Her......Sai has given me the oppurtunity to sing a lullaby for Him how fortunate i am..........then it just continued and another song started " indariki abhayambu nichu chayi kanduvagu manchi bangaru chayi" which means " Oh lord , you give your hand to everyone to protect them and your hand is a hand made of gold " ........... for which i just raised my small hand towards Him and He was so kind that He stretched so much from Heaven above even though it was hurting He was pulling me towards Him and then His hand was shining as bright as the gold does with the bright rays that surrounding Him......even though i could not see Him ......He is was so kind to give me darshan from Heaven when i was in temple last time...........How kind is our Sai........He is giving me so much joy and happiness that i cannot express it...............

Sai tera leela anek hai.

Everyone has to just raise their hands and he will pull you towards Him......He is like a magnet and we are like iron that just by going a little closer to Him , He can attract you and keep us so close to Him that we cannot go away from..........How lucky are we to have Sai who can love us soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much.

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 18, 2005, 06:50:58 PM
feather69 you will also know when you come to The Only Lord. Keep watching your thoughts without you knowing He will pull you towards Him......Such is the love of God........Keep watching your thoughts ...........
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Astrid on August 19, 2005, 06:10:55 AM
Sai Ram

Sushma, you dear one, what a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful post. You are not only feeling love, you are becoming love, LOVE through and through, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy to see.
And yes, our beloved brother Ramesh is a great, wonderful and loving teacher. We are more than blessed to have him as our brother!

Om Sai Sri Sai Jaya Jaya Sai
Om Sai Sri Sai Jaya Jaya Sai
Om Sai Sri Sai Jaya Jaya Sai

Astrid

Restless was my heart till it found rest in THEE
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 19, 2005, 09:48:42 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

How are you Sushma dear? How was the Raksha Bandhan Celebrations.....How many brothers do you have, beside me ofcourse? It will be my last post because I have to rush to my brother's place we have Raksha Bandhan gathering there.....All our sisters and brothers at one place and we have big party....all kids....all brother-in-laws.....everybody dance enjoy.....full masti....so today without anything more.....but yes I am happy that you have started loving your life......you are happy......and I posted in some other post that whenever I saw someone happy......it really give me more boost to help that soul more........So enjoy today's message....I will come with more and more post related to meditation.....but my humble request will be not to be excited about anything....just take it easy.....one day you may get some good experience......and on the other hand you may not get at all.......so you have to take it really easy.......slowly slowly you will come to a point......when whole of your concept about life gets change......a begining of new life.....just wait....I will be there till I am physically present here.......

It is not a stale affair, it is not as if others before you have met Him -- that you find millions of footprints leading to His door. No, it is as if you are the very first person He meets. He is like a virgin waiting for you. God is always a virgin. Had He been married many times before there would be nothing of interest left in Him. His virginity is eternal; He is an eternal bachelor. Whoever reaches Him finds Him fresh, new and chaste, unspoiled as a virgin -- just as the morning dew or the first rays of the rising sun.

There is no map that can be handed over to you, for life itself is a constant change. Everything changes every moment. The way I reached will be of no use to you; it was my special way. You will have to find yours.

For Nanak says God has made infinite creatures, infinite souls. He has cast in millions and millions of colors and forms. Each one is unique. If each person is unique, unparalleled, no one person's path can be of use to another. My understanding can be of use to you but not my path. My insight can help you to find your way but your way will be entirely your own personal way. It shall bear your imprint just as your thumbprint can be only yours. There are millions upon millions of people in this world, but never will your thumbprint be repeated. If existence has caused your thumb to be unique, how much more original will your soul be! Imagine it.

New research has involved itself in very deep issues. Science now declares that the internal organs of each individual are peculiar to that person. No two people have kidney, heart or liver exactly the same as another person. Not only the thumbprint but every cell of your body is specially made and designed for you, and you alone. You are incomparable. God creates you, makes each cell, each atom in your body just for you. He never creates another to match you. So your path of attainment will also be unique. This produces a sense of helplessness and many difficulties, but it is also the grandeur and dignity that you have reached by a route that is absolutely new, untrodden; it cannot be stale for you.

If this is understood well, you will know that we are talking of the soul, the atman. We can produce machines in tens and thousands. There are millions of Ford cars whose parts fit one another very easily. Sometimes it is impossible to distinguish between two cars, so much alike are they. Not so the soul; no two souls are alike. Each atman is unique.

This means, were we to use the language of poet, saint or devotee, the atman cannot be machine-made. It seems that God makes each and every atman with His very own hands. This is why He is called the creator. If you tell a painter to make another painting to match one he has already done, he will be unable to do so.

He cannot make an exact copy of the original. There will be a difference. With the passage of time the painter himself changes; his moods change. He is no longer in the same state of heart and head as when he made the original.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 19, 2005, 01:51:49 PM
Ramesh Bhai,
          I am doing foing good........Raksha Bandhan celebrations have just started for us and enjoying every moment ......... bhai whatever you write really helps me a lot.....since morning i was thinking about the beautiful experiences that i had yesterday and today is so busy that i could'nt meditate and was kind of sad .......and immediately i have your message here that i am not supposed to get excited or dejected but just enjoy calmly ........this is the message i was waiting from you......Thanks bhai.....

I have 3 elder sisters and the immediate cousin brothers......my Dad is like a brother  for us so we tie rakhee for him.......


Sister Astrid , yes our Ramesh bhai is a loving teacher.........I love you both a lot and all the Sai members who share things with everyone whether it is a happy moment or a sad one......this is what a family is about......

Thank you Sai for giving me this loving family ........

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 20, 2005, 07:39:38 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear and all other who are interested in the art of meditation.....here I am giving you some of the topics concerning basics of the meditation......all my brothers and sisters enjoy the topics and ponder over them seriously and by BABA SAI's grace you will find one day it start happening...... and serious meditation start happening in your life........Today's topic in two parts.....

For today's topic

Man as such is neurotic. It is not that just a few men are neurotic, but humanity is neurotic. It is not a question of correction for a few persons, it is a question of curing humanity as such. Neurosis is the "normal" condition. As you are born, you are born neurotic. There are reasons for it. Understand the reasons which make man "normally neurotic."

The neurosis is inborn. The first reason is that man is the only animal which is born not totally evolved in the womb. Every human birth is immature. Except for man, every animal is born mature; the mother is not really very much needed. The human child is totally helpless. Without mother, without family, without parents there, he cannot survive.

He is born unmatured.

Scientists say the nine months is only half the necessary period. The human child needs eighteen months in the womb. But there are problems: women cannot carry a child for eighteen months. Thus, every birth is abortive. This happens because man is the only animal who is standing on two feet, erect. The womb, the human body, was not made for an erect posture. This erect posture creates problems, and the child has to be born before he is really mature and ready to be born. That gives a neurotic beginning - an unevolved child.

Secondly, even if the situation could be changed, there would be problems. And some day we will be able to change it. When we are able to give a scientifically created womb to the future humanity, then only will we be able to change it. But even then there will be problems. The second problem, which goes even deeper than physiology, is a psychological one. No animal is cultured, but man is cultured. He has to pass through training, conditioning. He is not allowed just to be whatsoever he is, he has to be moulded into a particular pattern. That pattern creates neurosis.

You are not allowed to be yourself. The society gives you a pattern, a mould. You are cultured into a certain shape and form. That means repression. The remaining part of your being is repressed. Only a fragment is allowed to be expressed. This creates a division, a schizophrenic.

A fragment of your mind is allowed to be expressed at the cost of the whole. The major part is not allowed to be expressed. It is not even allowed to be alive. It must move into the darker corners of your being.

But it remains there, and then there is a constant conflict. The fragment that society allows and the major part which society doesn't allow are in tension, in conflict - in constant internal conflict. So you are against yourself: that is the neurosis.
 
No man is for himself; every man is against himself. Man is against himself. That is how society cultures you, cultivates you, conditions you. This repression has many implications. You can never be at ease because your major part is not even allowed to exist, not even allowed to be conscious. The major part of your being is in bondage. And remember that a fragment can never be free. Can you make a branch of a tree free while the whole tree is in slavery? The fragment is basically part of the whole, so even the fragment enjoys only a very illusionary freedom. And the part that is suppressed goes on fighting for expression.

Life needs expression, life is expression. If you do not allow life, then you are creating, accumulating, explosive forces. They will explode and you will go to bits. This division in you is schizophrenia. So every man is schizophrenic, divided - divided against himself. He cannot be at ease; he cannot be silent; he cannot be blissful.
 
Hell is always there, and unless you become whole, you cannot be freed from this hell.

So if you understand me, man as such is schizophrenic, neurotic. So something has to be done which releases this neurosis, brings your divided parts nearer. The unexpressed has to be expressed, and this constant repression of your mind, of the conscious upon the unconscious, has to be withdrawn.

OM SAI RAM!!!


Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 20, 2005, 07:44:07 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Today's topic....Part II

All the old meditation techniques do not take this into consideration; that is why they have been failures. Meditation techniques have been in existence for a long time; they have been known throughout history, but a Buddha, a Jesus, a Mahavira, have all been failures. I don't mean that they themselves didn't realize. They realized, but they were exceptions, and exceptions only prove rules. Buddha was enlightened, but he couldn't help the greater portion of humanity to be enlightened. He was simply an exception.

Why could religion not be a great help? The reason is this: we have been taking man for granted, and we were teaching meditative techniques to help man as he is. But all these techniques can help only to a certain extent, and only on the surface. The inner division remains; you have not done anything to dissolve it.

For example, there are zen techniques, and Mahesh Yogi's transcendental meditation, and other techniques. They can help you to a certain extent.

They can calm you down, your surface can become more peaceful, but nothing happens to your inner being. It cannot! And, in a way, that surface calm is dangerous because in one way or another you will explode again. Basically nothing has happened. You have simply trained your conscious mind to be in a more still state.

You can still your mind easily through mantras, through constant chanting, through many things. Anything which creates an inner boredom will help you to calm down. For example, if you constantly repeat "Ram Ram Ram," this constant repetition creates a certain sleepiness, a boredom, and your mind begins to fall into sleep. You can feel that sleepiness as calmness, as stillness, but it is not. Really, it is a sort of dullness. But you can tolerate your life more through it; at least on the surface you will feel more contented. But the forces, the neurotic forces, will go on boiling within; any day they will disrupt the surface, and you will fall down dead.

These methods are conciliatory, and very few people can be helped through them. And those who can be helped through them can be helped without any technique. Those are exceptions - fortunate ones who are not born neurotic. Many things are implied in that, but as a rule humanity is not so fortunate.

So my emphasis is first to dissolve your inner division, to make you one - a unity. Unless you are one, nothing can be done.
 
OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 22, 2005, 09:53:10 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear.....How is going? Don't ever learn the method of meditation from anyone........Here I am not telling any method....just by and by you will learn the art of meditation on your own......Again and Again I will tell you to learn the BABA SAI's mool mantra of Shardha and Saburi.....start sitting in front of BABA SAI regularly without any fail.....twice a day.....one in the morning and other in the night before your sleep.  Meditation will become your way of life......Enjoy today's topic........

As life exists, it is needed, but it is not enough. It is utilitarian, but just to survive is not enough; just to be utilitarian is not enough. So when you become utilitarian and the consciousness is narrowed, you deny your mind much of which it was capable. You are not using the total mind, you are using a very small part of it.
 
And the remaining -- the major portion -- will become unconscious.

In fact, there is no boundary between conscious and unconscious. These are not two minds. "Conscious mind" means that part of the mind that has been used in the narrowing process. "Unconscious mind" means that portion that has been neglected, ignored, closed. This creates a division, a split. The greater portion of your mind becomes alien to you. You become alienated from your own self; you become a stranger to your own totality.

A small part is being identified as your self and the rest is lost. But the remaining unconscious part is always there as unused potentiality, unused possibilities, unlived adventures. This unconscious mind--this potential, this unused mind--will always be in a fight with the conscious mind; that is why there is always a conflict within.

Everyone is in conflict because of this split between the unconscious and the conscious. But only if the potential, the unconscious, is allowed to flower can you feel the bliss of existence; otherwise not.

If the major portion of your potentialities remains unfulfilled, your life will be a frustration. That is why the more utilitarian a person is, the less he is fulfilled, the less he is blissful. The more utilitarian the approach-- the more one is in business life--the less he is living, the less he is ecstatic. The part of the mind that cannot be made useful in the utilitarian world has been denied.
The utilitarian life is necessary but at a great cost: you have lost the festivity of life. Life becomes a festivity, a celebration, if all your potentialities come to a flowering; then life is a ceremony. That is why I always say that religion means transforming life into a celebration. The dimension of religion is the dimension of the festive, the nonutilitarian.

The utilitarian mind must not be taken as the whole. The remaining, the greater--the whole mind--should not be sacrificed to it. The utilitarian mind must not become the end. It will have to remain there, but as a means. The other--the remaining, the greater, the potential--must become the end. That is what I mean by a religious approach.

With a nonreligious approach, the businesslike mind, the utilitarian, becomes the end. When this becomes the end, there is no possibility of the unconscious actualizing the potential; the unconscious will be denied. If the utilitarian becomes the end, it means that the servant is playing the role of the master.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 22, 2005, 11:44:27 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Deva means divine, mouni means the silent one -- divine silence, and that has to be the key for you. Become more and more silent, speak less and less... only the necessary. Drop all that is unnecessary and you will be surprised at simply how much energy is saved. Read only very little; there is no need to read unnecessarily, and there is much that is unnecessary which we go on reading. Once you read it then it vibrates in your mind. When you say something again and again, you repeat it, it becomes a groove. When you say something, somebody says something in return; that is a continuous nourishment for the mind.

Speak less, listen less, read less: bring them to the minimum. And you will be surprised that all that you have always wanted to happen will start happening. Meditate more, sit silently more, just with closed eyes, with yourself.

Enjoy your aloneness, and that is your way to MY BABA SAI....

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 22, 2005, 01:49:55 PM
Things are going on well bhai.... This message is so useful in our daily life ......... just need to implement it......

Sushma.
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 24, 2005, 11:32:59 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear....things are meant for going well always....only we make them worst by our conditioning......It is just began....It is not yet began properly......Sushma dear and all those who are following these topic.....I will only say show is not yet began....just wait.....wait with BABA SAI's SHRDHA AND SABURI....then you will find one day BABA SAI bless you all together.....Enjoy the topic......

Meditation is a state exactly opposite to concentration. Meditation means that you are sitting under a tree, with your consciousness open to all directions. It is not running in any direction -- it is open to all. It is not running; it is steady and available to all.

The bird's song will be heard, with no thought as to whether it is a cuckoo or some other bird. The moment thought enters, meditation disappears; with thoughts, concentration begins. The bird will sing, its song will echo in your inner emptiness because you are open and available, but there will be no ripple of thought; the sound will echo and disappear. A plane flies by overhead, and its roar too will echo and vanish. A train whistle blows; its sound echoes within you and fades away. The leaves will be falling from the trees, their sound echoing in your inner emptiness, but you won't be thinking, you will just be.

Meditation is the name of this being, of being without thought. And meditation is no narrow state of mind, it is no narrow-flowing river, it is an ocean. Concentration is like a river, actively flowing fast into a certain direction. Meditation is like the ocean, a vast expanse open to all directions, but not flowing anywhere. The river can be flooded; to the ocean, flooding is unknown. Rivers are running and narrow, a small amount of water fills them up -- just a little less water and they run dry. Concentration can be flooded and stormed with great power, and concentration can also run dry and become lifeless. Meditation is never flooded and never runs dry. It is steady within itself.

Wakefulness is attained through meditation and meditation is surrender. Concentration is attained through willpower, meditation through surrender. Surrender means abandoning oneself to the whole, becoming one with it.

Nahin BABA SAI Bin Thaon -- become one with BABA who is everywhere present, become one with existence. Let your drop disappear into this! Let your separate identity go, because as long as you remain separate you cannot be open, the doors and the windows will have to be closed, a wall will have to be put up. Leave them all open. Let the breeze pass through you, without meeting any obstacle. Let the sounds pass through you, let there be no walls to hold them back.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Sushma1 on August 24, 2005, 06:10:09 PM
You are right bhai, "It is not yet began properly......" I will wait with Sai's Shradda and Saburi.

Sai Ram

Sushma
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Shammi on August 24, 2005, 10:38:41 PM
Dear Ramesh bhai ................Absolutely ...........Right !!!

Speak less, listen less, read less: bring them to the minimum. And you will be surprised that all that you have always wanted to happen will start happening. Meditate more, sit silently more, just with closed eyes, with yourself.

Enjoy your aloneness, and that is your way to MY BABA SAI....

SAIRAM

Bow to Sri Sai - Raksha Karo Deva !!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 25, 2005, 11:18:42 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Sushma dear and all those who are following this topic.....On Meditation......without much background....I am giving topic on Mind's Concentration which means constriction....its proper understanding will help you all in doing meditation......

IF MY SINGLE TONGUE BECOMES A HUNDRED THOUSAND,
AND THIS HUNDRED THOUSAND BECOMES TWENTY TIMES MORE,
WITH EACH TONGUE WOULD I SING A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES
THE ONLY NAME OF THE MASTER OF THE WORLD.
THESE ARE THE STEPS OF THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BY FOLLOWING THEM DOES ONE BECOME TWENTY-ONE.
HEARING THEM SPEAK OF HEAVEN'S GLORY,
EVEN THOSE WHO ARE LIKE LOWLY WORMS BECOME AMBITIOUS TO EMULATE THEM.
NANAK SAYS, HE IS ATTAINED ONLY BY HIS GRACE.
BUT THE FALSE CLAIMANTS SPREAD THEIR BOASTFUL TALES.
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN SPEAKING NOR IN SILENCE;
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN ASKING NOR IN GIVING;
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN LIVING NOR IN DYING;
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN THE WEALTH OF KINGDOMS NOR THE RESOLVES OF THE MIND;
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN REMEMBRANCE NOR IN KNOWLEDGE OF THE DIVINE;
THE POWER LIES NEITHER IN THE WORLD NOR IN THE DEVICES TO BE RID OF SANSARA.
THE REAL POWER LIES IN HIS HANDS -- WHO CREATES AND KEEPS ON WATCHING.
NANAK SAYS, NO ONE IS HIGH AND NO ONE IS LOW BEFORE HIM.

Before proceeding with the sutras, there are a few things we should understand.

Thousands upon thousands of ways have been devised to search for God. But whenever a person has attained, he has found that He could not be attained through any means.
   
Attainment comes always by His grace, as His gift; only through His compassion does a seeker arrive.

But alas, things become very complex, because without effort on the part of the seeker grace does not descend. Understand this a little, for without prior understanding of this complicated puzzle you cannot progress on the path of realization.

For example, you forget someone's name. You try very hard to remember. You feel it is on the tip of your tongue and will come to you at any moment, yet it does not come. You try a thousand ways to remember; you get all worked up inside, for you are so sure the name is so close. Then you give up in exasperation. What can you do if it doesn't come to mind? You go to do something else -- read the newspaper, go for a walk or visit a friend's house. You have forgotten all about the name when suddenly, over a cup of tea, the name comes to you like a flash when you least expect it. You are completely relaxed and making no effort.

When we put out a great deal of effort, it becomes a hindrance in itself. Great effort produces great tension in the mind. When we pursue something doggedly and obstinately, the insistence becomes an obstruction. When the mind is concentrated it becomes constricted and we become closed. The mind can become so constricted that not even a single word can find its way out.

Concentration means constriction.

The concentrated mind must be closed to all except the object of your concentration. Only a small hole is left open for you to see; all else is closed. For instance, when a person's house is on fire his mind is concentrated on the fire. At that moment if his shoe pinches him, he would be unaware of it. He is oblivious to everything around him. Rushing madly to extinguish it, if his hands burn or his clothes, he is totally unaware. All his energy is directed towards putting out the fire; all else is forgotten. In the same way, when you struggle to remember a certain name, the name doesn't occur to you, because your mind has become so concentrated and constricted.

The complication is that God is so vast that a narrow mind cannot grasp Him. If a small word cannot be recalled how can God be remembered? And His name is not on the tongue, it is in the heart. It does not come to mind until suddenly, when you are doing nothing and the mind is relaxed, its gates all open. When the constriction of concentration is gone, you open and God enters.

But the irony is thay the second happening can take place only after you have truly tried. Without that initial effort nothing happens, for the happening is the ultimate outcome of the initial effort and struggle. The intense effort ends in apparent failure; but when you give up, this effort slips into the subconscious mind and continues with the same intensity.

OM SAI RAM!!!

Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 27, 2005, 05:42:26 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Where mind ends, meditation begins, because whatever we do or achieve, is through the mind. When we turn inwards, we start thinking in terms of techniques, methods, doings, because experience shows us that everything can be done by the mind. Except meditation. Because meditation is your nature. It is not something to be achieved; it has only to be recognised and remembered. It is there waiting for you; it is your being.

Meditation is a state of clarity, not a state of mind. Mind is confusion. It is never clear. Thoughts create clouds around you and clarity is lost. When thoughts disappear, when there are no more clouds around you, when you are in your simple beingness, clarity happens. Then you can see to the very end of existence; your gaze becomes penetrating, to the very core of being.

Meditation is absolute clarity, of vision. You cannot think about it. You have to drop thinking. ‘Drop thinking’ simply means don’t do anything. Sit, let thoughts settle themselves. Let the mind drop of its own accord. You just sit gazing at the wall, in a silent corner, not doing anything. Relaxed. Loose. With no effort. Not going anywhere. As if you are falling asleep — you are awake, relaxing, but the body is falling asleep. You remain alert inside but the body is in deep relaxation.
 
Thoughts settle of their own accord, you need not jump amongst them to put them right. It is as if a stream has become muddy... If you jump in it to try and make it clear, you will make it more muddy. You simply sit on the bank. You wait. There is nothing to be done. Because whatever you do will make the stream more muddy. If somebody has passed through a stream and dead leaves have surfaced and mud has arisen, just patience is needed. You sit on the bank and watch, indifferently. As the stream flows, the dead leaves will be taken away and the mud will start settling.

Suddenly, you will become aware; the stream is crystalclear again. Whenever a desire passes through your mind, the stream becomes muddy. So just sit. In Japan, this ‘just sitting’ is called Zazen. And one day, meditation happens. And when it comes, you immediately recognise it; it was always there; you were just not looking in the right direction.

When energy turns in — what the Buddha calls Parabrutti, the coming back of your energy to the source — clarity is attained. Then you can see clouds a thousand miles away; you can hear ancient music in the pines. A meditative person is playful: life is fun for him, a leela, a play. He enjoys it tremendously. He is not serious. He is relaxed. Just allow your attention to flow towards the gaps. Slip from the edges of words into the intervals. Let intervals become more prominent and allow words to fade away.

Mind means words; self means silence. Mind is all the accumulated words. Silence is that which has always been with you. It is your intrinsic quality. On the background of silence you go on accumulating words, and the words in total are known as the mind. Silence is meditation. It is a question of shifting attention from words to silence — which is always there.

OM SAI RAM!!!


Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 28, 2005, 11:23:06 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

There is a very famous sufi story about a great king who was dying. He had three sons and all were very wise and he was very worried about whom to choose to be his successor. They were all the same age so age could not be the deciding factor, and they were all beautiful, all healthy and all intelligent. It was almost impossible to decide so he asked a very old aged man, his old advisor, what to do. The old advisor said, 'I will do a sort of a test.'

He called all the three boys and gave to each a palace and a certain amount of money, a very small amount of money, and told them, 'With this amount of money you have to fill your palace completely; it should not be empty.' It was difficult. The palaces were very big and the money was only a very small amount.

The first young man thought and thought and brooded. It was impossible to fill that empty palace with such a small amount of money! He could not get any furniture; even curtains were not possible. Paintings, chandeliers, impossible; so what to do? He could only think of one thing -- that rubbish could be used with that amount of money.

So he filled the whole palace with rubbish, because the man had not said with what to fill it but just that it should be full. So he said, 'Perfectly logical.'

The second boy thought very much but could not find a way. Up to the last moment he thought and contemplated but it was impossible. He was not ready to fill it with rubbish and there was no other thing that could be purchased with that amount of money, so the palace remained empty.

The third boy purchased a few small earthen lamps, incense, a few flowers. He burned the incense and the whole palace was full of the perfume. And he burned those small earthen, very cheap lamps and the whole house was full of light. And when the king came to see all the three palaces, there was just a small garland for him and a few flowers, that was all.

They rejected the first house because the condition was fulfilled -- the man had filled his house -- but with rubbish. The second was a failure because the house was empty and full of darkness because the boy had not been able to decide what to do. The third was chosen as the successor because with such a small amount of money he managed to fill the house -- and not only to fill it; it was overfull, flowing. Light was going outside on the road and the perfume was going with the winds.
 
Your house right now is like the second boy's palace -- empty. It was like the first boy's palace before, but now the junk, the rubbish has been thrown out.

It is like the second man's house.
 
Wait! Just the fragrance of love and the light of meditation will do. Your palace will become full again, and full with something which is tremendously valuable -- and of course, it costs nothing.

So don't be worried. Things are going perfectly well. Just meditate more and love more. Emptiness is good!

OM SAI RAM!!!

Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Dipika on August 28, 2005, 11:31:50 AM
OMSAIRAM!Thankyou Ramesh ji for enlightening us with such a beautiful story....
OM SAI SRI SAI JAYA JAYA SAI
OM SAI SRI SAI JAYA JAYA SAI
OM SAI SRI SAI JAYA JAYA SAI
Why to worry in life for NANAK says NANAK DUKHIYA SAB SANSAR!

Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar
says, Nanak,  the whole world is unhappy in some way or the other
So Sukhiya Jis Naam Aadhaar
But he who chants Gods name is ever-happy


Sai baba let your holy lotus feet be our sole refuge.OMSAIRAM


dipika duggal
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 28, 2005, 09:42:08 PM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

The darkness is not something outside, it is something inside; hence the light is also not going to happen from the outside, it has to arise within. No outer light can dispel inner darkness. Only the inner can function on the inner. This is something very fundamental to be understood: the inner reality of man is of great poverty, but he goes on accumulating wealth on the outside. The idea is that if he has enough wealth on the outside his inner poverty will disappear. But it doesn't happen and it cannot happen. On the contrary the more wealth you have on the outside, the more you become aware of your inner poverty. And so is the case with love, so is the case with light. So is the case on many planes. The inner can only be transformed by the inner -- the outer cannot even touch it. They don't meet, they never cross each other. They run parallel, very close, but parallel, so they can't meet.

And man has tried everything from the outside to change his inner reality. It has been an utter failure. The whole history of man up to now has been nothing but a failure. Only a few people have escaped from this calamity. Those people can be counted on one's fingers, a Buddha here and there, a Jesus here and there, when it is everybody's capacity and potential to become a Buddha or a Christ.
But the kingdom has to be searched for within.

The inner darkness means the inner noise of the mind. The mind is a constant chattering box and it goes on and on of its own accord. And all that clamour and noise creates darkness because it creates confusion, because it creates clouds of doubt, of distrust, of anger and of hatred.

Light means clarity. Meditation is the technique to create inner light. Meditation does only a single and simple thing: it makes you capable of turning the mind off. And once the mind is turned off and the mind disappears there is immense light. That is the dawn I am talking about: the dawn beyond darkness.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 29, 2005, 01:21:27 PM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Meditation is rest, absolute rest, a full stop to all activity - physical, mental, emotional. When you are in such a deep rest that nothing stirs in you, when all action as such ceases, as if you are fast asleep yet awake, you come to know who you are. Suddenly the window opens. It cannot be opened by effort, because effort creates tension, and tension is the cause of our whole misery. Hence this is something very fundamental to be understood that meditation is not effort.

One has to be very playful about meditation, one has to learn to enjoy it as fun. One has not to be serious about it - be serious and you miss. One has to go into it very joyously. And one has to keep aware that it is falling into deeper and deeper rest. It is not concentration, just the contrary, it is relaxation. When you are utterly relaxed, for the first time you start feeling your reality; you come face to face with your being. When you are engaged in activity you are so occupied that you cannot see yourself. Activity creates much smoke around you, it raises much dust around you; hence all activity has to be dropped, at least for a few hours per day.

That is only so in the beginning. When you have learnt the art of being at rest you can be both active and restful together, because then you know that rest is something so inner that it cannot be disturbed by anything outer. The activity goes on at the circumference and at the center you remain restful. So it is only for beginning that activity has to be dropped for a few hours. When one has learned the art then there is no question : for twenty-four hours a day one can be meditative and one can continue all the activities of ordinary life.

But remember, the key word is rest, relaxation. Never go against rest and relaxation. Arrange your life in such a way, drop all futile activity, because ninety per cent is futile; it is just for killing time and remaining occupied. Do only the essential and devote your energies more and more to the inner journey. Then that miracle happens when you can remain at rest and in action together, simultaneously. That is the meeting of the sacred and the mundane, the meeting of this world and that, the meeting of materialism and spiritualism.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 30, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

What is psychological time? Mind is psychological time. Mind is time. If you don't have any mind and you are simply silent with no thought moving within, there is no time for you, not psychological time. The clock will go on moving, but for you the inner clock stops -- time stops, the world stops. That is my dimension, the dimension of meditation.

As you go deeper into meditation time disappears. When meditation has really bloomed there is no time found. It happens simultaneously: when the mind disappears time disappears. Hence down the ages the mystics have said that time and mind are nothing but two aspects of the same coin. Mind cannot live without time and time cannot live without mind. Time is a way for the mind to exist.

Mind creates future through desire, through dreaming. The future does not exist, it is only in imagination, and mind creates the past. The past also does not exist, it is only in the memory. The past is no more, the future is not yet, but both exist in the mind. And because of the past and the future you have the feeling of time.

Time is not divided into three parts as it is usually divided. Mystics divide time into two parts: the past and the future. Time has only two tenses: past, future. And what about the present? Mystics say the present is timeless because the present is mindless. When you are utterly in the present, herenow, there is neither mind nor time. You transcend time and mind both, you enter into eternity. You are beyond time. You are in a totally different world -- transformed, transmuted, transported.

When I talk about time I mean this time that is created by the mind. Mind clings with the past and clings with the future. It is not ready to renounce the past, it is not ready to die to the past, because it is in the past that it can have its roots. And it is not ready to renounce desiring, dreaming, because it is in desiring and dreaming that it can live. It needs space; it creates a very false space for itself: tomorrow, which never comes. Mind knows of yesterdays and tomorrows, and nothing of today.

Hence all the Buddhas have insisted, "Live in this moment." To live in this moment is meditation, to be simply herenow is meditation. Those who are simply herenow this very moment with me are in meditation. This is meditation: the cuckoo calling from far away, and the airplane passing, and the crows and the birds. And all is silent, and there is no movement in the mind -- you are not thinking of the past and you are not thinking of the future. Time has stopped, the world has stopped.

Stopping the world is the whole art of meditation. And to live in the moment is to live in eternity. To taste the moment with no idea, with no mind, is to taste immortality.

Time is mind. Time is death. Going beyond time is going beyond mind and beyond death.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on August 31, 2005, 08:55:43 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Intelligence, the narrowing of the mind, is a means toward survival, but not toward life. Survival is not life.

Survival is a necessity--to exist in the material world is a necessity--but the end is always to come to a flowering of the potential, of all that is meant by you. If you are fulfilled completely, if nothing remains inside in seed form, if everything becomes actual, if you are a flowering, then and only then can you feel the bliss, the ecstasy of life.
 
The denied part of you, the unconscious part, can become active and creative only if you add a new dimension to your life--the dimension of the festive, the dimension of play.
 
So meditation is not a work, it is a play. Praying is not a business, it is a play. Meditation is not something to be done to achieve some goal--peace, bliss--but something to be enjoyed as an end in itself.

The festive dimension is the most important thing to be understood--and we have lost it totally. By festive, I mean the capacity to enjoy, moment to moment, all that comes to you.
 
We have become so conditioned and habits have become so mechanical that even when there is no business to be done, our minds are businesslike. When no narrowing is needed, you are narrowed. Even when you are playing, you are not playing, you are not enjoying it. Even when you are playing cards, you are not enjoying it.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on September 01, 2005, 10:43:27 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Meditation means surrender, total letting go.
 
As soon as someone surrenders himself he finds himself in the hands of divinity. If we cling to ourselves we cannot be one with the almighty. When the waves disappear, they become the ocean itself.
Let us try some experiments in order to understand what is meant by meditation.

Sit in such a way that no one touches you. Close your eyes slowly, and keep your body loose. Relax completely so that there is no strain, no tension in the body at all.

Now imagine that a river is flowing very fast, with tremendous force and sound, between two mountains. Observe it and dive in... but do not swim. Let your body float without any movement. Now you are moving with the river -- just floating. There is nowhere to reach, no destination, so there is no question of swimming. Feel as if a dry leaf is floating effortlessly in the river. Experience it clearly so that you can know what is meant by "surrender," by "total letting go."

If you have understood how to float, now discover how to die and how to be dissolved completely. Keep your eyes closed, let your body become loose and relax completely. Observe that a pyre is burning. There is a pile of woodsticks that have been set afire and the flames of the pyre seem to be reaching toward the sky. And remember one more thing: you are not just observing the burning pyre, you have been placed on it. All your friends and relatives are standing around.

It is better to experience this moment of death consciously, as one day or the other it is sure to come. With the flames growing higher and higher, feel that your body is burning. Within a short while the fire will be put out by itself. People will disperse and the cemetery will be empty and silent again. Feel it, and you will see that everything has become quiet and nothing but the ashes remains. You have dissolved completely. Remember this experience of being dissolved, because meditation is also a kind of death.

Keep your eyes closed now and relax completely. You do not have to do anything. There is no necessity to do anything: before you were, things were as they are, and they will be the same even after you die.

Now feel that whatever is happening is happening. Feel the "suchness" of it. It is so: it can only be this way; there is no other way possible, so why resist? By "suchness" is meant "no resistance." There is no expectation that anything be other than what is. The grass is green, the sky is blue, the waves of the ocean roar, birds sing, crows are crowing.... There is no resistance from you because life is such. Suddenly a transformation takes place. What was normally considered to be a disturbance now seems to be amiable. You are not against anything; you are happy with everything as it is.


OM SAI RAM!!!
Contd.....
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: vaishali on September 01, 2005, 11:11:27 AM
Dear Rameshbhai,

Thank you very much for guding us.

I have the same problem what Sushma ji has. I can never concentrate.

I am really active all day and at night when i sit for meditation, i always fall in sleep. If i sit for 15 minutes meditation, out of this 15 minutes.....14.5 minutes i am asleep or thinking something else.

i tried hard and hard but it just not happening.

I hope one day i could meditate the same way you are doing.

Omsai srisai jayjay sai

Vaishali
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on September 06, 2005, 11:00:07 AM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

Meditation is the tree that grows without a seed: that is the miracle of meditation, the magic, the mystery. Concentration has a seed in it: you concentrate for a certain purpose, there is motive, it is motivated. Meditation has no motive. Then why should one meditate if there is no motive?

Meditation comes into existence only when you have looked into all motives and found them lacking, when you have gone through the whole round of motives and you have seen the falsity of it. You have seen that the motives lead nowhere, that you go on moving in circles; you remain the same. The motives go on and on leading you, driving you, almost driving you mad, creating new desires, but nothing is ever achieved. The hands remain as empty as ever. When this has been seen, when you have looked into your life and seen all your motives failing.

No motive has ever succeeded, no motive has ever brought any blessing to anybody. The motives only promise; the goods are never delivered. One motive fails and another motive comes in and promises you again... and you are deceived again. Being deceived again and again by motives, one day suddenly you become aware -- suddenly you see into it, and that very seeing is the beginning of meditation. It has no seed in it, it has no motive in it. If you are meditating for something, then you are concentrating, not meditating. Then you are still in the world -- your mind is still interested in cheap things, in trivia. Then you are worldly. Even if you are meditating to attain to God, you are worldly. Even if you are meditating to attain to nirvana, you are worldly -- because meditation has no goal.
 
Meditation is an insight that all goals are false. Meditation is an understanding that desires don't lead anywhere. This is not knowledge; you will have to see it. You can see it right now! You have lived, you have seen many motives, you have been in turmoil, you have thought about what to do, what not to do, and you have done many things. Where has it all led you? Just see into it! I'm not saying agree with me, I'm not saying believe in me. I'm simply making you aware of a fact that you have been neglecting.

This is not a theory, this is a simple statement of a very simple fact. Maybe because it is so simple, that's why you go on without looking at it. Mind is always interested in complexities, because something can be done with a complex thing. You cannot do anything with a simple phenomenon.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: Ramesh Ramnani on September 08, 2005, 12:24:48 PM
JAI SAI RAM!!!

When people sit silently in meditation more thoughts come than they do ordinarily, than they usually come -- unusual explosions.

Millions of thoughts rush in, because they have some investment in you -- and you are trying to get out of their power? They will give you a hard time. So thoughts are bound to come. What are you going to do with thoughts? You cannot just go on sitting visibly there, you will have to do something. Fighting is not going to help because if you start fighting you will forget to look at the tip of the nose, the awareness of the third eye, the circulation of the light; you will forget all and you will be lost in the jungle of thoughts. If you start chasing thoughts you are lost, if you follow them you are lost, if you fight them you are lost. Then what is to be done?
And this is the secret. Buddha has also used the same secret. In fact, the secrets are almost the same because man is the same -- the lock is the same, so the key has to be the same. This is the secret: Bud&a calls it SAMMASATI, right remembrance. Just remember: this thought has come, see where it is, with no antagonism, with no justification, with no condemnation.

Just be objective as a scientist is objective. See where it is, from where it is coming, where it is going. See the coming of it, see the staying of it, see the going of it. And thoughts are very mobile; they don't stay long. You simply have to watch the arising of the thought, the staying of the thought, and the going of the thought. Don't try to fight, don't try to follow, just be a silent observer. And you will be surprised: the more settled observation becomes, the less thoughts will come. When observation is perfect, thoughts disappear. There is only a gap left, an interval left.

OM SAI RAM!!!
Title: Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
Post by: justsrikar on May 17, 2011, 12:09:21 AM
Hi Sushma,

I need the Lyrics of the song "etla ninu ethukundunamma" can u send it to my id b.s.srikar at gmail

Thanks in advance.

- Srikar