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Title: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on May 04, 2011, 09:32:23 AM
Dear Sai Devotees, I am Shiva, my wife Vani and my little daughter Nishi, need your help. first and foremost, sorry for this post which is not relevant to sai forum. But, We are in  trouble, need your help. Please educate me, is there something like black magic in this world?? or is it just illusions.?? I was told it is used for malevolent acts or to deliberately cause harm in some way.
Friends, I was forced to divorce my first wife, due to black magic, as sometimes she used to behave very normal and at times she used to speak, write in such a manner as if her mind is not in her control. Once in such mental state she had filed divorce case against me and because of this reason my family proved her that she is not fit for me and forced me to divorce her. After our divorce, when I met her, she was quite normal and she explained me about her change of mood and mind and behavior which she felt as if somebody was controlling her mind etc. which I did’t believe at that time, eventhough our marriage was love marriage.
But to my surprise, that same problem is happening with my second wife. My wife Vani says, even if she try to control her, sometime she go out of control and do the same thing which my ex wife used to do. We are scared. I need help. My family members are not helping me. Through one of my friend when I contacted one tantrik, he has confirmed it as black magic. As I need to get rid of this as my newborn baby (2months only) and my beloved wife are suffering like hell for no reason due to this. Nowadays we used to have big fights for petty issues for no reason. I don’t want to lose her. Please help me. We both are sai devotees, I know, when sai is there to protect us, why worry, but devotees still need help and clarifications from you all.
Please clarify  me is it true, can someone’s mind be controlled through black magic so that the person can do all the unpleasant and bad things.
i’m serious. will give you the whole story once i hear from you
Looking forward hear from you soon. Thank you.
sorry sai for this post,
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Anupam on May 04, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Shivaji, sad but true, BM is very real unfortunately. Just the deliberate use of Sadhna to destroy someone, and mind control is the very first aspect of it,
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 05, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
@Shiva ji,

SaiRam!:)

Yes,  Black Magic exists!

But there's a quote > If God Is For Us, Who Can Be Against Us?!

You can also find in this section one topic named 'Please Save My Husband' made by SaiSai83 sister.. which clearly tells ki Jiske Upar Baba Ka Haath Ho Uska Koi Baal Bhi Baaka Ni Kar Sakta.. par shraddha aur saburi hona bhi bhot zaruri hai.

And, personally from my experiences too , Baba has always been with me.. I can never explain in words how much thankful and lucky i'm to have him in my life .. He's my saviour, He's my Protector.. He's my best friend.. my true friend.. my life :)

I am a tiny devotee of baba and there are other here who can explain u n guide u really well but still I would like to say somethings..

The more Negative U'll be, The More u'll Harm Yourself..D more +ive U'll be, D more Beneficial It wud be for u both.. So, D choice Is Yours!


Keep on chanting his name continuously whenever you can and wherever you can truly from ur heart

Please Keep 9 Thursdays Vrat of baba and along with that, Also Please with that regularly read Shri SaiSatcharitra .. which would give you immense peace..

Indulge in Good Karmas.. Kyuki Har janam mein Karmo Ka Phal hi Insaan Bhogta Hai.. Feed any poor person or any animal daily.. PLEASE do not talk bad about anyone.. Help the needy..Follow His Teachings.. Create An Aura Of Sai Purely In Your Heart..Sing his songs.. sing his leelas.. chant his name.. do good karmas..

(Helping the needy and feeding animals would make u feel very happy.. Please don't expect any returns wn u do such acts.. do them without any expectations)

Lastly, Shraddha n Saburi rakhte jao bas..


Hope baba blesses you both..

Jai Sai Nath!  ;D
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saib on May 05, 2011, 10:02:05 AM
Dear, Magic is only an illusion. What state you are explaining it to control over mind, it is different state. In more than 90% it is fear alone and not any magic which cause any harm.

This is also a sort of science. People gets hurt not on account of power of someone else but on account of their own weaknesses. In many cases where no loyalty exist, Guilty or Wife assumes she is not fortunate for husband or vice versa such incidents take place.

Just to share one real story, Some years back, One of my friend met me, He was sad, When I asked what was issue, He explained that he loved some girl, who belonged to very poor family so his family was not accepting this relation, as they had found one girl from rich family who were supposed to give good amount as dowry. His parents, as he over-heard their conversation gave his clothes to some big Jadoo tona type Guy, so that he started hating that girl. He was sad, but there was confidence on his face that what so ever happen, I won’t leave that girl. In spite of all efforts of his family, He married that girl, Now it has been many years, and they are living happy married life.
 
Just to explain you must be knowing about Hackers who hack system of others to capture all relevant information and use for their benefits. But if system is password protected, equipped with high quality anti-virus software, firewall and anti-spyware solution. Regular Scanning of systems and multi-level back up, Control over external webmails It is just impossible for any hackers to get into such system ………………. same where in our life there is light of name of Lord, it is no way to get enter for any evil force. One who live with fear (respect) of Lord and perform karmas with the thought that Lord is watching his all acts, never fall victim of such forces.

We can divide such forces in three parts simple magic (Usually tricks like making things appear from air, cutting the person into pieces etc. etc. You can watch decoding the magic code program on AXN to know all tricks behind such magic) Second, Is hypnotism (Where conscious mind is controlled, But this technique is not effective for people who have very strong belief system or sub-conscious mind e.g. a very honest officer cannot be made to accept bribe) Third is to control one’s entire mind, but again if one is true devotee of Lord or have very clear and strong life value system, then holy name of Lord always protects him from evil and such a power of name, any evil power instead of harming him benefits him in some way.

This is all as per my little knowledge. One more thing I have experienced in my own life, Unbalanced energy level also play an important role in such events, like not getting Job or being unemployed for long time, Not good family life, Kids not good in education etc. Here one should check if there is junk in house, dead flowers, plants, broken photos of any form of God, faulted electrical equipments, water leakages, no proper light,  broken mirrors, stopped watches, wash room and kitchen together ……………. as small change in environment can result in big positive changes in life.

Hope, It will give you some clarity. Still you feel there is some other reason, consult some wise person. If in Delhi, I heard that priest of Bharon temple is very knowledgeable.  Also in Delhi two places are extremely powerful with high degree of divine energy, Jhandewalan Temple and Gurudwara Sis Ganj which can convert negative energy into positive one! For other areas You have to find. Other way is powerful chanting. This is like Buddhist Monks use, Simple chanting to sound meditation.

May Baba Bless You and All!


om sri sai ram!
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 05, 2011, 10:53:02 AM
@Saib ji,

Thanku so much 4 sharing such informative post.. I learnt a lot..

I didn't knew that Jhandewala mandir is famous for this too..

Thnku..

Baba bless u.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saib on May 05, 2011, 08:52:58 PM
Dear Saisevak Bhai (or Saisewika Behan  :) ),

Thanks for appreciation, But fact is this I am too learning by experiences of others and time. By blessings of Lord, I have made to visit many religious places belongs to different worldly religions. But at these two places I feel great energy. Jhandewalan Mata Temple because whenever I visit there, it seems like a small child under the loving shelter of his mother. Just like a child feel secure and safe under loveable care of his mother. I can’t explain in words Grace of this temple.

Then Gurudwara Sis Ganj Sahib, As per my own personal belief, It was Lord Shankar himself only. As no normal incarnation could hold such a power and energy. Also nearby there is Sri Digambar Jain Temple,  Jama Masjid, Gauri Shankar Temple, Sunehri Masjid nearby. You can imagine divine aura of this place.  If one can meditate with empty mind and controlled breathing rhythm …….. impact on life will be just awesome subject to Karmas and blessings of Lord.

Just to clear, I didn’t say These Places are known for destroying evil impacts by any rituals. I said about high positive and divine energy level at these both places. For other purpose there are many other places.

For these Places I can only Say, To become big there are always two ways, Cut other short or Add Value to your life. Here Divine Values and energy gets added to life. But what matters As Baba Said, “ Jis Bhav se mujhe Pujoge Usi Bhav Se Mujhe Paoge”

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

May Baba Bless all of Us!


om sri sai ram!
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 05, 2011, 09:32:57 PM
Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Dear Shiva,

Yes, unfortunately black magic is very real. I am in a very similar situation. Black magic has been used to separate my husband and I and has resulted in a situation where it is heading for a divorce.
I am really sorry to hear about what you and your first wife and current wife are facing. A lot of people like to believe it does not exist because they have not experienced it by God's grace. Only people who have suffered being victims know and understand the pain.
Yes black magic is used to control people and used for many destructive purposes. It is sad that human beings think that it is okay to manipulate another person's free will which is a gift God has given each one of us. I understand your pain brother.
My advice to you would be to go to Shibpur Sai Baba Mandir with your wife and child and pray to Baba there for protection. Also, please consult a faith healer who can help you with this. In my quest for answers, I have learnt that any intent, good or bad remains and will run its course as harsh as it sounds. But, what we can do is seek protection from God. You can also contact a knowledgable person who can do healing like reiki, pranic healing to seek protection to shield your wife from this trauma.
Also, please mix Baba's udi in water and give it to your wife everyday.
I really feed bad for you as this is something I am going through right now in my life. When it happened, I did not have anyone's support as no one believed it until it was too late. Please dont feel alone brother, seek protection from Baba, and please get help from a faith healer who someone can refer you to. If you know a good tantrik, then please seek help from him to break the spell.

May Baba bestow his loving blessings on you and your family always

Jai Sai Ram

Dear Sai Devotees, I am Shiva, my wife Vani and my little daughter Nishi, need your help. first and foremost, sorry for this post which is not relevant to sai forum. But, We are in  trouble, need your help. Please educate me, is there something like black magic in this world?? or is it just illusions.?? I was told it is used for malevolent acts or to deliberately cause harm in some way.
Friends, I was forced to divorce my first wife, due to black magic, as sometimes she used to behave very normal and at times she used to speak, write in such a manner as if her mind is not in her control. Once in such mental state she had filed divorce case against me and because of this reason my family proved her that she is not fit for me and forced me to divorce her. After our divorce, when I met her, she was quite normal and she explained me about her change of mood and mind and behavior which she felt as if somebody was controlling her mind etc. which I did’t believe at that time, eventhough our marriage was love marriage.
But to my surprise, that same problem is happening with my second wife. My wife Vani says, even if she try to control her, sometime she go out of control and do the same thing which my ex wife used to do. We are scared. I need help. My family members are not helping me. Through one of my friend when I contacted one tantrik, he has confirmed it as black magic. As I need to get rid of this as my newborn baby (2months only) and my beloved wife are suffering like hell for no reason due to this. Nowadays we used to have big fights for petty issues for no reason. I don’t want to lose her. Please help me. We both are sai devotees, I know, when sai is there to protect us, why worry, but devotees still need help and clarifications from you all.
Please clarify  me is it true, can someone’s mind be controlled through black magic so that the person can do all the unpleasant and bad things.
i’m serious. will give you the whole story once i hear from you
Looking forward hear from you soon. Thank you.
sorry sai for this post,

Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 06, 2011, 02:10:16 AM
^

But sisso the fact that ur mother-in-law tried so much 2 bring even u under d influence of black magic but she cudn't can't also be ignored na.. all baba's grace..

n I also read somewhere that all this cannot affect u until you urself start being negative.. so I think being +ive is very much imp.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 06, 2011, 02:17:01 AM
@Saib ji,

Only name Saisewika sis is welcome  :P

Yea.. Jaisa roop hua jis jan ka waisa roop hua mere mann ka.. baba's words r so b'ful

I've also been to many temples.. But I just can't find that high level of patience anywhere except Sai baba's mandir in Sec-7,Rohini.. Though I hardly go there on Thursday.

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

^
This line means dat only chanting of God's name?

Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 06, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Dear Saisevak,

Going through someting and reading about something are two different things. Jis jan pe beet ti hai, sirf woh jaanta hai. Anyway, I am not here to explain myself, Baba knows me, that is enough for me.

I am here to help someone who is going through the exact same as I am. It is not a joke sis.

May Baba bkess you.

Jai Sai Ram

^

But sisso the fact that ur mother-in-law tried so much 2 bring even u under d influence of black magic but she cudn't can't also be ignored na.. all baba's grace..

n I also read somewhere that all this cannot affect u until you urself start being negative.. so I think being +ive is very much imp.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 06, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
Sisso,

me really sry if i hurt u in anyway.. i never assumed or called it as a joke.

All i wanted 2 say was dat ur MIL  tried black magic even on u but she cud never succeed n it was all due 2 baba's kripa.. so, I just wanted 2 say dat belief n faith in god is really imp.

I am sorry.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: mj on May 06, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
Hi I have faced some issues regarding black magic and found these lines from Ayodhyakaand, ShriRam Charit Manas very effective in curing the problem of black magic. You just have to chant them as and when you can throughout the day. 

måyåpati sevaka sana måyå,karai ta ula¢i parai suraråya
jo aparådhu bhagata kara kara∂,råma ro¶a påvaka so jara∂.

Stanza no. 218 so you can check the words in hindi and meaning from Shi Ram Charit Manas.

I am sure you will soon be rid of all your problems by Baba's grace.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saib on May 07, 2011, 04:02:55 AM
Dear Saisewika Sis,

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

This line means dat only chanting of God's name?

It does not mean simple chanting or typing lord names, but to live lord, feel presence of lord in heart 24*7. Like before meals remember him, first thing to naman or bow to Lord, before sleeping just remember him, Whatsoever you do, Do with his name. Like in case of Mobile you have to charge it again and again depend on capacity of battery, But Landline phone there connection remains forever. Make connections like that. Chanting for time being, Reading religious or spiritual scriptures for time being can connect one to the power of lord, but only for limited time, then one again comes in normal state …………. sad, depressed, frustrated.

Remember In the world of Lord, emotion and Love for lord is most important and not any formal rituals (Even must form part of disciplined spiritual life), if this is the situation, Great Saint Balmiki attained the lord by just chanting Mara, Mara instead of chanting Ram, Ram. Great Devotee Dhannna attained Lord by just worshipping an ordinary stone. Angulimal when blessed by Buddha attained the state where whole world became reflection of Lord ……………….!

But this is not easy, To win the battle over mind, People get attracted to worldly people on account of their wealth, beauty of their skin, Intellectual status etc. etc. ……………… but to attract to Lord. Only way to hold love in heart, Love means when you accept everything reflection of Lord, and accept as wish of lord, even performing your best Karmas.

Hope, It is clear. I just try. But if study further you will know more. Use Google or read good books like the power of now by  Eckhart Tolle. The unshakable mind by Ryuho Okawa etc.

If you come to this state, you will find there is no evil as Lord alone is the master of all elements. What I have experienced till now by reading life stories of great saints, even they had the power, they lived as normal, didn’t use their special powers to overcome difficulties, but accepted and lived. It is only a play at large scale.

May Baba Bless all of Us!


om sri sai ram!

@Saib ji,

Only name Saisewika sis is welcome  :P

Yea.. Jaisa roop hua jis jan ka waisa roop hua mere mann ka.. baba's words r so b'ful

I've also been to many temples.. But I just can't find that high level of patience anywhere except Sai baba's mandir in Sec-7,Rohini.. Though I hardly go there on Thursday.

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

^
This line means dat only chanting of God's name?


Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: SaiSevak!9 on May 08, 2011, 03:23:13 AM
thnku :)
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on May 27, 2011, 04:51:52 AM
thank you friends, for all your replies and prayers. sorry i was away from dwarkamai as i was busy with my same family problems as my wife's condition is still same or i can say worse than before and i had to take care of my little daughter. i m little confused and not in a position to consult anyone to get myself and my wife out of black magic. we are just holding sai's lotus feet and chanting the divine name of sai with a hope that everthing will be fine one day,
thank you saisai83ji, saisevak!9ji,saibji, mj ji and anupam ji for the advice and information, om sai ram
thaks - shiva, vani, nishi
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on May 27, 2011, 04:54:59 AM
anupam ji, i don't know why, i have a feeling that you will be able to throw some more light on this or could you please help us with your suggestions to come out of this situation, thaks - shiva, vani, nishi

Shivaji, sad but true, BM is very real unfortunately. Just the deliberate use of Sadhna to destroy someone, and mind control is the very first aspect of it,
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: PiyaSoni on May 27, 2011, 05:07:18 AM
Omsairam

@shivani.sai read yur post today its realy vry hard to live while reading yur post i was thinking of saisai ji who is going through the same condition , she can undrstand yur feelings vry well..but pls yu dn't have to worry at all as baba is with yu and himself taking care of yur family , will suggest yu to start reading Sai Satcharitra and play Maha Mritunja Manta in yur home as it will stop the evil effect to enter yur house ,,if possible for yu pls try to contact Amit ji (Shibpur Sai baba temple) discuss the whole situation with him , and request Amit ji to talk to baba , and asked baba ji about the solution to get rid from this black magic , def baba ji will show yu the way through Amit ji .yu call call him:-09800500014   

Baba will show yu the way soon....

Sai Samarth..........Shardha Saburi,,,,BABA JI BLESS ALL!!

Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: dipti22.verma85@gmail.com on May 27, 2011, 06:04:25 AM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on May 27, 2011, 06:12:16 AM
thank you piyagolu ji for your suggestion and will definitely do that.me and vani regularly read ssc and also chant gayatri mantra early morning from 4 am and finish the chanting before sunrise, as per the suggestion of one of my friend. tried call amit ji, got his cell switched off, would try later again, thanks and  om sai ram
- shiva, vani, nishi

Omsairam

@shivani.sai read yur post today its realy vry hard to live while reading yur post i was thinking of saisai ji who is going through the same condition , she can undrstand yur feelings vry well..but pls yu dn't have to worry at all as baba is with yu and himself taking care of yur family , will suggest yu to start reading Sai Satcharitra and play Maha Mritunja Manta in yur home as it will stop the evil effect to enter yur house ,,if possible for yu pls try to contact Amit ji (Shibpur Sai baba temple) discuss the whole situation with him , and request Amit ji to talk to baba , and asked baba ji about the solution to get rid from this black magic , def baba ji will show yu the way through Amit ji .yu call call him:-09800500014   

Baba will show yu the way soon....

Sai Samarth..........Shardha Saburi,,,,BABA JI BLESS ALL!!


Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: dayalvasnani on May 27, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
Om Sai Ram
Shivani. Some people do balck magic to harm others. But if you have faith in god and you reguarly do worship at home, this can not harm you. To  get rid of bad effects daily enlight chandan dhoop agarbatti and  Kapur with two Lavang and spread in home. This will throw negative energy out of home. Always keep Salt (Sabut Samudri Namak) in a bowl at home. Daily Read Hanumaan Chalisa. This will give relief. I have some more remedies regarding this while i will post in my next post.

May Sai Baba Bless you

With best wishes
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 28, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Sai Ram Dayal ji,

Thank you for the advice, I shall follow this too, as I am experiencing a similar issue in my life. But, wish Baba's grace my family and I are protected now and are safe. Just been praying to Baba to keep my husband also safe and protected as he is far away from me now, and I can physically help him with prayers and protection. I just have faith in God, he will take care of everything.

May Baba bless you and your family always :)

Jai Sai Ram

Om Sai Ram
Shivani. Some people do balck magic to harm others. But if you have faith in god and you reguarly do worship at home, this can not harm you. To  get rid of bad effects daily enlight chandan dhoop agarbatti and  Kapur with two Lavang and spread in home. This will throw negative energy out of home. Always keep Salt (Sabut Samudri Namak) in a bowl at home. Daily Read Hanumaan Chalisa. This will give relief. I have some more remedies regarding this while i will post in my next post.

May Sai Baba Bless you

With best wishes
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 28, 2011, 10:44:39 PM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on May 30, 2011, 07:22:53 AM
Om sai ram Dayalji, Thank you very much for your advice, Sir, we have started following the same  at our residence and awaiting for  more remedies. Sir, we follow all the advice of our well wishers to get rid of this black magic with strong belief, but I don’t know how long we need to suffer like this, Thank you once again and may baba bless you and your family  with happy, healthy, wealthy, peaceful long life. Shiva, vani, nishi


Om Sai Ram
Shivani. Some people do balck magic to harm others. But if you have faith in god and you reguarly do worship at home, this can not harm you. To  get rid of bad effects daily enlight chandan dhoop agarbatti and  Kapur with two Lavang and spread in home. This will throw negative energy out of home. Always keep Salt (Sabut Samudri Namak) in a bowl at home. Daily Read Hanumaan Chalisa. This will give relief. I have some more remedies regarding this while i will post in my next post.

May Sai Baba Bless you

With best wishes
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Anupam on May 30, 2011, 02:26:13 PM
anupam ji, i don't know why, i have a feeling that you will be able to throw some more light on this or could you please help us with your suggestions to come out of this situation, thaks - shiva, vani, nishi

Shivaji, sad but true, BM is very real unfortunately. Just the deliberate use of Sadhna to destroy someone, and mind control is the very first aspect of it,
OM SAI RAM SHIVAJI,


BM is very real, it is the reverse use of Powers. The spell on you is seems to be "Uchhatan Prayog", the thing done to make people fight. Sorry Brother, but there is no alternative but to visit a good Tantrik/ or Saint. Mostly these sort of things are done with equipment/instruments which continuously give out negative vibrations, so when the powerful positives vibrations by your chanting etc go down, these negatives become strong. It is just like sound intonations. Sounds with higher frequencies and ordered become music, while infra sounds make a person go insane. That is why Guru Diksha is most important
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on May 30, 2011, 02:35:20 PM
Om sai ram Dayalji, Thank you very much for your advice, Sir, we have started following the same  at our residence and awaiting for  more remedies. Sir, we follow all the advice of our well wishers to get rid of this black magic with strong belief, but I don’t know how long we need to suffer like this, Thank you once again and may baba bless you and your family  with happy, healthy, wealthy, peaceful long life. Shiva, vani, nishi


Om Sai Ram
Shivani. Some people do balck magic to harm others. But if you have faith in god and you reguarly do worship at home, this can not harm you. To  get rid of bad effects daily enlight chandan dhoop agarbatti and  Kapur with two Lavang and spread in home. This will throw negative energy out of home. Always keep Salt (Sabut Samudri Namak) in a bowl at home. Daily Read Hanumaan Chalisa. This will give relief. I have some more remedies regarding this while i will post in my next post.

May Sai Baba Bless you

With best wishes

Please take my advice only if it suits you. I am no expert on this but one thing I know is all these things call it negative vibes ot tantra work when we are less strong right. The family suffering should be saved if it has love within family members, no drinking and non veg allowed for time being. No abuses in the family and then every day even if for 10 15 minutes sit together pray together. Why dont you guys take up Hanuman Chalisa or listen to Sai Satcharitra everyday but important thing is together. Chant any aarti with ful vigour and telling the negative thing to leve your house because you are united.

BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AVE
HANUMAN JAB NAAM SUNAVE........

Please ignore if its of no use but I strongly blieve strong family ties is the only remedy to fight on your personal level.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on May 30, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
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HEY SAI PLEASE SHOW THE FAMILY A WAY.......
I STILL HAVE A VERY STRONG FEELING ABOUT WHAT I SAID PLEASE TRY TO FOLLOW.
BE REGULAR ATLEAST TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

BHOOT PISHACH NIKAT NAHI AAVE
MAHAVIR JAB NAAM SUNAVE
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Anupam on May 30, 2011, 02:51:30 PM
Sairamsaiji you are correct, but you should know that ur opposition is stronger. Strong family ties or anything will work ONLY when you are yourself.
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on May 30, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
You are right because whatever it is. It has aready taken over but in whatever situation this routine should be followed very religiously and along with whatever other things they are trying to do. I dont know my heart tells me this will work but I am just a stupid one. So still thought of putting it across.
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 30, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

So true Anupam ji, I am facing this too in my life, I dont know if you have read my prayer thread for my husband.. We did have to get help from tantriks to remove the evil they casted, the spell casted on me was to take away my life.. It is only because of Baba that I am here and safe and alive today.. I owe my life to him.. Just trying to help my husband come out of it now.. If Baba wills it he will show us a way..
Thank you for sharing this information..

May Baba bless you and your family always..

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on May 30, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
All you guys are right but what I meant was its a very painful and almost impossible thing to do. But if possible and whatever sane moments the family has they should take out time together to pray together. It will definitely help. I really believe it might not kill the reason but will definitely cure it to some extent and stop for brewing further.

OMSAIRAM

Just a thought
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: PiyaSoni on May 31, 2011, 02:00:28 AM
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Sai samarth...........Shardha Saburi ,,BABA JI BLESS THE FAMILY AND SHOW THEM THE RIGHT PATH,,PROTECT THEM FROM THE EVIL!!
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 31, 2011, 02:42:46 PM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Anupam on May 31, 2011, 03:36:28 PM
< We did have to get help from tantriks to remove the evil they casted, the spell casted on me was to take away my life.. It is only because of Baba that I am here and safe and alive today.. I owe my life to him.. Just trying to help my husband come out of it now.. >

Sairam Saisaiji,

Correct, the extreme form of BM called "Maaran Prayog". Reading carefully Aakash Targedy, gives ALL indications of such attack. "Drs could not find anything", "Mysterious illness leading to multiple organ failure", while multiple organ failure is generally not known to occur from disease but accidents only. Only SAI knows the truth, but indications are of that only. These things cannot be taken lightly. In fact, every Mantra includingThe VERY SATTVIC GAYATRI MANTRA has also has its TAMASIC (destructive)  method of Siddhi, where even this very Great Purifying Mantra can be used with deadly effect, that's why its Actual last line has been hidden by Sage Vishwamitra and is only REVEALED to very high Sadhaks. The GAYATRI MANTRA as know generally is not the full Mantra actually.

These things cannot be taken lightly. The Power of BM should be discerned from the fact that all the leaders of the world are freemasons and they are ruling, the world. Not a single Saint is heading any country and all world citizens are effected to some degree
May SAI help you neutralise the effect on your husband
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on May 31, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Sai Ram Anupam ji, yes it was 'Maran Prayog' that was done on me.. Honestly, you will not believe, I had the exact same thought when I read about Akash.. ALLL the signs said that only.. Sometimes I get clairvoyant messages and this was one of them.. Thank you so much for all this information and help.. Thank you for your kind and good wishes for my husband.. I pray to Baba everyday to help him, but it is taking time..

May Baba bless you and your family always. My email id is saisaisai83 (@) gmail . com

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on June 02, 2011, 05:59:27 AM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on June 02, 2011, 01:18:43 PM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: PiyaSoni on June 03, 2011, 03:15:56 AM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Anupam on June 03, 2011, 04:32:11 PM
Sairam Shivaji,

Hope everything is fine at your end as you seem to be offline for last few days. Though there is no alternative to an expert, these few methods can work as protection

1. Burn a mixture of Guggul, Loban, Chandan Powder and Khand (Raw Sugar) on a Dry Cow dung cake and fill the whole house with the smoke of this (Remember to keep out this dhuni out of the house after you have done this)

2. Sprinkle Gangajal or Cow urine distillate, on all the walls of the house daily. Also keep a tumbler of water when you do your jaap etc, AND sprinkle the same water in whole house as above, after you complete the Pooja, as water absorbs the spiritual vibrations 100 times stronger, rest drink as teertham.

3. Regularly clean the aura of your family using the Peacock feathers, taking up  from left feet to head down to right feet 7 times

4. Feed daily a chapati to a cow and some milk to a dog

Hope everything is fine with you, with Baba's grace
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Kirti1 on June 04, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
OM SAI RAM

Dear Shiv,

After reading your posts, I still dont know what to say. However, this is what I like to suggest as remedy:
1) Continue with all the praying you all do. Only that it should be loud, not in mind. When you start, be happy and cheerful. That you are doing it with your family.
2) Keep one CD continously playing all day long either Gayatri Mantra or Sai Mantra.
3) Ask your wife to do written Sai Naam Jaap in a time frame. Like completing a 100 page book in 10 days, etc.
ON the 1st page of the book, write, "Dear Baba, I surrender my Mind, Ego to you as it is. Kill all the negatives in them and lead me to the right path."
On completion offer sweets and book to any near by Baba's temple.
3) Get some Udi and keep it under your wife's and daughter's pillow, every night when they sleep.
4) Apply a bit of Udi mixed with hair oil on their head in the morning. (if you dont get the original Udi, the ash from aarbatti offered to Baba, will also do)
5) Get Vaastu done of your house immediately. There is a gentleman in Delhi, whose progam is aired every Sunday on some channel, I cant recall either. But will get it for you. Maybe it's just Vaastu Dosh. Hoping for the better.
6) If possible, go on a vacation for couple of months, without telling any one at all. Dont be in touch with anyone you know. Go to pilgrmimage, if you can.

Whichever remedy you choose, make sure you follow it with ABSOLUT Faith in the Diety. Things will turn for the better, very soon.

Baba, be with them and protect them, they need your help right away.

Till then...Keep Praying!!!
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on June 05, 2011, 05:50:44 PM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: shivani.sai on June 08, 2011, 02:20:26 PM
om sai ram sasai83 ji, anupam ji, kirti1 ji,piyagolu ji, sairaramsai ji, dayal ji, thank you for all the adivces, concern and prayers, will be back soon, don't have time and net connection to respond to you all in detail, but no good news, baba please help my family, help my maa, please sai have mercy, pl forgive my sins, om sai ram , shiva, vani, nishi
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on June 08, 2011, 03:14:07 PM
Hope you trying to get the entire family do once or twice a day Sai POojan together. I have strong belief that will help.

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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on June 19, 2011, 05:44:26 AM
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Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: Sairamsai on June 19, 2011, 07:47:03 AM
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OH PEOPLE PLEASE BRING YOUR FAMILY TOGETHER AND PRAY TO HIM
Title: Re: Please help. is there something like black magic in this world??
Post by: saisai83 on June 20, 2011, 01:43:05 AM
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