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Title: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: dattaswami on July 21, 2007, 06:03:37 AM
Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee

Generally we do some service to the Lord and expect something good in return from the Lord. This is the norm of the general worldly business. The specialty of Lord Datta is that He announces His policy in the beginning itself. His policy is one-way traffic. You have to do service to Him but He will not do anything good in return. Thus the business completely disappears. At this stage itself majority of the devotees drop out. Some devotees come to Him prepared for doing the service without any good fruit in return. After some time He opens His second policy. This policy is two-way traffic but it is different from our two-way traffic. He starts doing bad for our service. As the devotees press His feet He will be beating them with His stick. This is the true love.

The devotee must have the divine knowledge to understand Lord Datta. By giving such troubles He is clearing all the sins. In clearing the sins He pays ninety-nine percent and the doer must pay one percent according to the rule of minimum justice. He appears to be giving troubles but actually He is clearing the sins. Then why He is not opening this truth. If the truth is not opened then only the true love exists. In the true love, one loves in spite of troubles from the other side. If the truth is opened this true love disappears. We will realize that these troubles are for his benefit only. Then we will tolerate the troubles from that angle. In such case it cannot be true love. Therefore Lord Datta maintains the secrecy. After clearing the sins, He will give boons. Without curing the fever, strong food should not be given. If it is given the patient dies. The demons were destroyed by such boons. There are three types of devotees. The low-level devotee asks for a boon like a demon. He does not give any freedom to the Lord. He decides that something is good for him and asks the Lord to give it.

The devotee acts like a master and is indirectly treating the Lord as his servant. The Master asks the servant to do a particular thing without any comment. The middle class devotees ask the Lord to do whatever is good for them. They give some freedom to the Lord in deciding, which is good and which is bad for them. Upto this point they give freedom to the Lord. After this point the Lord has no freedom and He has to do good only. Thus these devotees give 50 percent freedom to the Lord. The best devotee gives 100 percent freedom to the Lord. He asks the Lord to do whatever the Lord likes. This devotee is prepared to receive the bad also if it can please the Lord. His only aim is that the Lord should be pleased by doing whatever He likes. This devotee feels that he is only an inert means for the play of the Lord by which the Lord is entertained. A player beats the ball by foot and is entertained. The devotee also likes to receive continuous sufferings, if such sufferings can entertain the Lord.

When Jesus was doing the last prayer, He tried to avoid the future agony of death. For a moment He was vibrated with the forthcoming agony of crucification. But immediately He regained His originality and ended the prayer by saying “Let Thy will will be done”. He said finally that He is prepared to suffer if that is the will of the Lord. This is the best devotion. Lord Datta starts giving small troubles, which means that He is clearing the small sins. If the devotee is firm in his faith, then Datta starts clearing big sins. That means the small troubles will be slowly magnified into big troubles. When He clears your pronote of Rs. 100/- (Rs = $), He pays ninety-nine rupees and you will have to pay Re. 1/-. Then He starts clearing your pronote of one thousand rupees and then you have to pay Rs.10/-.

You have to pay one percent of your sin according to the least expectation of the Justice. In the first stage Lord Datta keeps silent without doing any good for your service. This is the test of Brahma. This is a sort of initial training for the further tests. Then Datta starts troubling you for your service. The clearance of small sins is the test of Vishnu. In the third stage big sins are cleared and your troubles are intensified. This is the third test of Rudra. From one angle these are the tests to find out the strength of your faith and truthness in your love. In another angle these tests are secret clearance of your sins and your purification to make you eligible for His grace. Only the best devotee can stand before the special Lord Datta. Datta is true God and His preachings are true. The benefit you get also is true. The real Sun can remove the real darkness by his real light and imaginary Sun cannot remove the real darkness.

You are spending lot of your time and energy in analyzing these worldly affairs. You are egoistic and you think that you are intelligent to solve the worldly affairs. By your intelligence and intensified analysis through long discussions, you will find that the worldly affair about which, you have taken so much care utterly flops at the end. If you spend even one-tenth of that time and that energy in the service and devotion on Lord Datta, your worldly issue succeeds beyond your imagination. In fact the servants of Lord Datta attend your worldly affairs. These worldly matters are below His level. His level of work starts when you go to the hell after the death. He will speak to Lord of the hell not to enquire about you and close the file since you are in His service. Thus you are blessed in this world and also in the upper world. Your faith is not 100 percent. To practice this if you are in His constant devotion all your duties will be also discharged by the power of Lord Datta in a fraction of second and in an excellent manner. One can test this concept in the case of one worldly affair and see whether what I say is correct or not?

You can test this in one case and you will experience the truth of My preachings.
Title: Re: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: keerthisai on July 21, 2007, 06:17:50 AM
ANIL ji

SAI RAM

Really appreciate your efforts to spread UNIVERSAL PREACHINGS. but some of us are really begginners and hope BABA gives us strength to understand these concepts and win his spiritual grace.

Can I have one small calrification. Yes the above posts indicates why we suffer just to win his grace thereby washing away all our sins.

My Question is Not all of them suffer this way. Some of them (you can even say NON DEVOTEES of ANY GOD) are directly given the GOLDEN THRONE. Is there any partiallty in that.

Actually As a devotee we are not to compare any one but just of inquisteveness this query: If in the process it hurts anyone, pls excuse me.

I am just asking this just purely to understand. Why some are undergoing these tests to win the lords love and some are directly showered with materailistic and spiritual guidelines without any efforts.

Thanks & regards
Keerthi

JAI SAI NATHA
Title: Re: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: dattaswami on July 21, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
ANIL ji

SAI RAM

Really appreciate your efforts to spread UNIVER......... Why some are undergoing these tests to win the lords love and some are directly showered with materailistic and spiritual guidelines without any efforts.

Thanks & regards
Keerthi

JAI SAI NATHA

Veda says that every body carries on the good and bad results along with them  (Priyaa priye…).  At the same time Veda says that God is removing the sins of the deserving devotee (Ubhe punya pape, Apahatapapma etc.).  Gita also says that one has to enjoy the good and bad results of the wheel of deeds (Tetvagham….tetambhuktva….).

 At the same time the Lord says that He protects His devotees (Yoga kshemam…).  God is the judge, who has delivered these results based on His own constitution.  How can He violate His own judgment even in the case of a deserving devotee?  Judgment is Universal but devotion is personal. This needs link of interpretation.  Krishna wanted to give all His wealth to Kuchela and transfer His poverty to Him self.  In the incarnations of Datta this tradition is very clear in the experience.  As a judge He fines His son and as father He pays the fine.  The constitution is not violated and at the same time the devotee is saved.  Jesus is another best example of this tradition. 
 
Gayatri asked that why Krishna, the Lord, could not repeat Gita when Arjuna asked again.  She said that a chemistry lecturer can teach chemistry at any time.  This point can be correct provided God is in the inet human body like the lecturer (Jeevatma) present in his inert human body.  In the case of Krishna, God is present in the human body which is a composite of the three bodies (causal, subtle and gross).  The subtle and causal bodies together are called as Jeevatma and the gross body is the inert house.

 In the case of the chemistry lecturer, he is just a composite of these three bodies i.e., Jeevatma present in the inert gross body.   The chemistry is in the Jeevatma of the chemistry lecturer.  In the case of Krishna, God spoke Bagavat Gita and Krishna spoke AnuGita.  All the knowledge taught by Sandeepa is present in Krishna, who spoke Anugita.   But Bhagavat Gita came directly from God and God never requires any knowledge from any teacher.  Thus, a double personality exists and therefore it is said “God in flesh”. 

God speaks as a speaker and He does not require any aid.  But if God speaks directly, people will get tension due to excitation by observation of the super power.  Then knowledge is not grasped.  To keep them in ground state, God speaks directly from human body and people approach without tension thinking that the human body is  speaking.  If God enters the inert body only, it is as good as entering an inert statue.  Speaking through statue will again raise the tension.  When God enters the human body He needs the Jeevatman also, which possesses all the qualities for His play.  God need not use His special power for a work, when it can be done by the medium itself.  Arjuna was retaining a little egoism and therefore the concept of the exhibition of such double personality is needed.  Such analysis will pacify the egoism because God and Krishna are different.  For higher level devotees like Gopikas there is no difference between Krishna and God. 
Title: Re: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: dattaswami on July 21, 2007, 10:50:26 AM
ANIL ji

SAI RAM

Really appreciate your efforts to spread UNI.........nd spiritual guidelines without any efforts.

Thanks & regards
Keerthi

JAI SAI NATHA

Do not bother that you are unable to practice the highest truth today itself. Atleast accept the truth in theory. That first step is sufficient. One day or other, either in this life, or in some future life (human life is assured for any one who tries constantly) you will succeed. If you accept theoretically, you have put your foot on the first step of right path. Journey and achievement of goal are inevitable. It is only a matter of time. But if you deny the truth even theoretically, you are in the wrong path. You want immediate fruit and so you want to lower the goal. You want to sleep at 8 PM and want to become IAS officer.

 You want 40 marks as pass! You think that you can get the 40 marks and pass. But My dear friend! If you keep 40 marks as goal, you will get five or ten marks only! Actually 100 is distinction and 40 is a pass mark. But we have kept it as secret and say 100 marks is the pass, so that you will achieve 40 certainly while trying for 100. This is called as “Arthavada” (which means a statement created for a purpose) in the Veda. It means a spiritual secret like the business secret.

 When you get five marks only and feel discouraged by seeing at 100 mark goal, then, in your case, to encourage you, we shall say that 40 marks is the pass-goal. Therefore, Acharyas know to close and open the secrecy of truth according to the condition of the student. In some context truth has to be opened and in some other context, truth has to be covered. This brought the difference in the preaching of the human incarnations, which was based on the difference in the stages of different people, they faced in their times. If you realize this practical problem you can easily realize that there is only one God in all the divine human incarnations.
Title: Re: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: keerthisai on July 23, 2007, 08:51:09 AM
QUOTE:

My Question is Not all of them suffer this way. Some of them (you can even say NON DEVOTEES of ANY GOD) are directly given the GOLDEN THRONE. Is there any partiallty in that.

Actually As a devotee we are not to compare any one but just of inquisteveness this query: If in the process it hurts anyone, pls excuse me.

I am just asking this just purely to understand. Why some are undergoing these tests to win the lords love and some are directly showered with materailistic and spiritual guidelines without any efforts.

Unquote:

ANIL ji

Thanks for your immediate reponse. Though I am able to vaguely understand your concept, Can I take the liberty to ask you to explain to me in LAY MAN's Language so that i may be claer to me / Others also.

Thanks & regards
Keerthi

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Re: Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee
Post by: dattaswami on July 23, 2007, 10:09:47 AM
QUOTE:

My Question is Not all of them suffer this way. Some of them (you can even say NON DEVOTEES of ANY GOD) are directly given the GOLDEN THRONE. Is there any partiallty in that.

Actually As a devotee we are not to compare any one but just of inquisteveness this query: If in the process it hurts anyone, pls excuse me.

I am just asking this just purely to understand. Why some are undergoing these tests to win the lords love and some are directly showered with materailistic and spiritual guidelines without any efforts.

Unquote:

ANIL ji

Thanks for your immediate reponse. Though I am able to vaguely understand your concept, Can I take the liberty to ask you to explain to me in LAY MAN's Language so that i may be claer to me / Others also.

Thanks & regards
Keerthi

JAI SAI RAM

Suffering is for only the upliftment of soul only, so that one should quickly turn to Lord from the world and worldly bonds like over indulgence in family etc. You family is like your class mate only. You need only to fulfil their needs without over indulgence, rest of the time you should serve Lord. Your main aim in this life is to please the Lord by service to Him without any selfish desire.

By suffering one will be prompted to introspect and conclude that one should not do sins any more. But He should spent more time to serve Lord. Lord is available to you in human form in the present human generation. You should recognise Him and serve Him.

If you are behind solving your personal problems which you your self have created, by using God them your problems will not get solved. But if  you love Lord and serve Him, without your knowledge itself Lord will suffer for you and save you. You should rise to that level. For that you should learn the knowledge about Him. That knowledge is know as Divine knowledge. This knowledge is preached by the Lord Himself only who comes in human form.

Your kith and kin are your class mates only in this world class room. You should identify this and your real relative is the Lord, who comes to you in human form now here itself.

Only through sacrifice practically, you can live peacefully upon this earth. If you pray to statues or photos which will not reach Lord. The service done to the present human form of Lord reaches the Lord directly, here the Lord present in the human body of the human incarnation receives your service and get pleased. Thus there is a huge difference between idol worship and worship of present human incarnation. The second worship only pleases Lord because the present human incarnation is the correct place of Lord.

So, try to learn the divine knoweldge from Him and try to serve Him slowly to the extent possible by your condition exiting now to you.

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