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Offline dattaswami

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Re: ATTENTION MODERATORS!!
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2007, 08:51:04 AM »
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  • MEN AND WOMEN ARE BORN WITH IGNORANCE. NOBODY IS SPIRITUALLY PERFECT. A LADY MIGHT GO TO A GURU TO SOLVE HER IMMEDIETE PROBLEMS THROUGH MIRACLES. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS HER PROBLEM AND SHE REQUIRES AID FROM HER GURU.

    EVEN SAI BABA SAID MEN AND WOMEN COME TO ME FOR MATERIALISTIC BENEFITS FIRST THEN I TAKE THEM IN MY WAY.

    WHO IS YOUR GURU TO CALL SUCH WOMEN PROSTITUTES? A FEEDING ARM IS MORE HOLIER THAN A PREACHING GURU. REALIZE IT FIRST.

    I FEEL SO ASHAMED THAT I CONVERSED WITH YOU!


    Again I would like to correct  you. Please have patience on my analysis


    A prostitute sacrifices sweet words and sweet feelings of mind for getting her minimum requirement. This is justified. But today the people who are having already the minimum are trying to please the Lord through sweet words and sweet feelings of mind (devotion) to get extra from the Lord. These devotees are called as divine prostitutes who can never be excused by the Lord. One can please a person who is either ignorant or a person having less knowledge in false way. But no one can please the Lord who has the full knowledge (Sarvajna). If any one tries to please the Lord by the sacrifice of words and mind only, such a person is blind. These people are made blind by the fraud preachers who exploit their ignorance and natural ambition. The people who follow such fraud preachers loose time here and those fraud preachers will be punished there. These fraud teachers encourage these innocent people and make them to do Karma Phala Tyaga also. These innocent people are advised to spend hundred rupees and get one lakh rupees from God. A part of these hundred rupees is wasted in purchasing some unnecessary materials and these fraud preachers steal another part. Such a sacrifice of the fruit of the work cannot be the Karma Phala Tyaga. It is just like a patient going to a fraud doctor and loosing money and time without any reduction in his illness. Sometimes the illness may increase. In such worships the Lord is giving the fruits of your own good works which are present in the future life cycle arrangements. The fruit of good work from your future birth is drawn to this birth as a pre-matured deposit. You are thinking that you have attained the fruit of the good work, which you have not done just by spending hundred rupees. You are getting rid of the present trouble because the Lord is pushing this trouble to the future birth with added interest. By this your future life cycles become miserable with full of troubles only from birth to death. Are you not seeing such people in the world? They blame the Lord for such life cycle but they do not know that they pressed the Lord for this in their previous births. You just see this wonderful world and imagine the intelligence of the Lord. No body including your fraud teacher can fool the God. Therefore the present tradition of blind preachers and blind followers is leading finally to the ever-lasting fire only. Therefore it is better to know the true path which is established by Vedas and Bhagavat Gita. It is better to put at least one step in the true path because the distance from the goal is reduced at least by one step. What is the use of putting hundred steps in false path by which you have moved away from the goal by hundred steps? The true path is only Hanuman and Gopikas i.e., Karma Sanyasa and Karma Phala Tyaga and both put together called as Karma Yoga as emphasized every where in Gita.

    The value of the words and mind are two paise only. The value of practical action is hundred paise. If you do the sacrifice of these three (words, mind and action) without aspiring anything in return you will get the fruit from the God according to the corresponding values. If you praise the Lord without aspiring anything, the Lord will praise you by His sweet voice. If you meditate upon the Lord without aspiring anything the Lord will love you with His sweet heart. If you serve the Lord practically without aspiring anything the Lord also gives the fruit in the same practical way. Hanuman simply participated in the work of the Lord. He was given the highest post, which is the fruit that is practically real. Gita says that He will approach you in the same way as you approach Him (1). Gopikas sacrificed the fruit of their work and they were given the highest Goloka. In these examples sacrifice is without aspiring anything in return from the Lord. Such sacrifice is called ‘Nishkama Karma Yoga’. But when you do the same sacrifice aspiring the fruit in return, you will get the results accordingly here also. But here the results are the fruits of your own works, which are arranged in the future cycles.

    Offline dattaswami

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    Re: ATTENTION MODERATORS!!
    « Reply #16 on: July 25, 2007, 02:16:21 AM »
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  • "In that case the preacher may speak any nonsense, the followers will be clapping.  The devotion of such followers is only artificial and such devotees are the prostitute devotees."

    It is really disturbing and shocking to read such harsh words from a member (dattaswami) of this forum. It spoils the very sanctity of this forum.
    A devotee might go with any mind to his/her Guru. A real Guru will never comment his devotees’ current state with such rude remarks that are used against women.

    Moderators – Please do the needful.

    Lord is beyond qualities, when He comes in human form He exhibit the bad qualities to test the truthfulness of devotion to Him by  a devotee.

    Krishna stolen butter which is the hard earned fruit of Gopikas, He danced with Gopikas in the night.. Will anybody say that Krishna was Lord seeing all these? It was the acid test to their faith.

    Lord exhibit the bad qualities to filter the undeserving devotees. He is not affected by those bad qualitites.

    When you love Lord in Human form and participate in His mission of divine knowledge propagation you will become dear and near to Him.

    You believe in human incarnaiton and that He can come any part of the world. you have to identify the Human incanration and serve Him. Generally prostitutes do hypocrytical love for money. If a devotee approaches for his personal needs only and show love for that then it is like such love only. I am just bringing the truth in such false Love, by a devotee to cater to his personal needs. Your love should not aspire anything in return from Lord. Such people are 'His People' and Lord in human form carry the sins of 'His People' on Him and suffer for their sake. Here the devotee came to know that He is suffering for their sins then they will not allow their Lord to suffer for their sins. Such is their love on Him. Becasue fo this Lord in human form suffer 'His Poeples' sin without thier notice. Which is the real love of Him on them.

     


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