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Offline Y V RAMUDU

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RESPECTED  BELOVED SAI DEVOTEES!

DOES SRI SAI BABA ACCEPT TO SHARE/DISCLOSE EACH OTHER OUR DEVINE EXPERIENCES WE HAD WITH HIM? 

MAY SAI BABA FORGIVE ME AND OTHERS IF THIS QUOTE IS WRONG.

WITH BEST REGARDS
RAMUDU

JAI SAI RAM
« Last Edit: September 17, 2007, 04:46:33 AM by Y V RAMUDU »
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om sai ram

evn i had this doubt..........

but thn it ws cleard by baba himself..........

it is mentioned clearly in ssc tht we ought to share our divine experiences.........

It is a well-known fact, that the Sadguru looks first to the qualifications of his disciples; and then gives them suitable instructions, without unsettling their minds in the least, and leads them on towards the goal of self-realization. In this respect, some say that what the Sadguru teaches or instructs, should not be divulged to others. They think that their instructions, become useless, if they are published. This view is not correct. The Sadguru is like a monsoon cloud. He pours down profusely, i.e., scatters widely his nectar-like teachings. These, we should enjoy and assimilate to our heart's content; and then serve others with them, without any reserve. This rule should apply, not only to what he teaches in our waking state, but to the visions he gives us in our dreams. To quote an instance: Budhakowshik Rishi composed his celebrated Ram-raksha stotra, which he had seen in his dream


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Dear ramudu ji,

I wonder why you got this thought. If hemadpant ji never thought of sharing all the experiences, we would never have our sai satcharitra which is equal to us as gita. Even in our forums there is a special column for posting our experiences. I feel that all the teachings of baba should be shared among ourselves instead of keeping them as a secret so as to increase our faith. In fact there are few people who can not wait themselves from sharing with the fellow devotees. It brings a great bliss when we share our beautiful experiences or lessons with others. We can feel the happiness and joy. Baba bless you always and give you more and more such experiences. om sai ram.

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om sai ram

evn i had this doubt..........

but thn it ws cleard by baba himself..........

it is mentioned clearly in ssc tht we ought to share our divine experiences.........

It is a well-known fact, that the Sadguru looks first to the qualifications of his disciples; and then gives them suitable instructions, without unsettling their minds in the least, and leads them on towards the goal of self-realization. In this respect, some say that what the Sadguru teaches or instructs, should not be divulged to others. They think that their instructions, become useless, if they are published. This view is not correct. The Sadguru is like a monsoon cloud. He pours down profusely, i.e., scatters widely his nectar-like teachings. These, we should enjoy and assimilate to our heart's content; and then serve others with them, without any reserve. This rule should apply, not only to what he teaches in our waking state, but to the visions he gives us in our dreams. To quote an instance: Budhakowshik Rishi composed his celebrated Ram-raksha stotra, which he had seen in his dream


om sai ram

Om Sri Sai Ram!

Suhani ji and Adwaita ji, Very rightly said.

Baba's leelas are like deep ocean and as we dive deep into it, we get to obtain more and more precious pearls.

As we share them among ourselves, it is as good as serving the feast of his leelas to our sai sisters and sai brothers.

Baba bless us all

Jai Sai Ram
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JAI JAI SAI NAMO NAMAHA SADGURU SAI NAMO NAMAHA



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Kavithaji, Suhani ji and adwaitaji                                                                                                        11.09.07

Welcome and thank you very much for your notification and replies to this topic.

I too agree that  - without great Budhakowshik Rishi there will be no Ram-raksha stotra
                       - without great Hemadpant today thre will be no Sai satcharitra
                       - And I strongly believe that Baba's leelas are like deep ocean and as we dive deeper into it, we get 
                         more and more precious pearls.
My doubt is " devine plans will be seperate with human thinkings". Sometimes we may wrongly predict the dreams,advises and experiences.

It is true and I strongly believe that if at all not sharing the views how come this slokas,mantras and other great books will be popular today.

My request is - Let this topic to be continued to obtain more valuable comments from the valuable devotees from all corners of this world.

May Baba bless everybody to involve and share their valuable experiences with HIM in the topic "YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH SAI BABA"

With regards
RAMUDU

Jai Sai Ram


 
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One must ask this question from baba only...because it depends on the person ..
This relationship between sai nd his devotees is very intimate.. so it depends on the level of the devotee, his experiences and his devotion....
E.g  swami akhandanand saraswati ko hanumaan ji aur bhagwan krishna k darshan hue sakshaat ye puri duniyaa jaanti h but agar hum logo ko baba k darshaan hue and hum sab me btana shuru karde to ,
Humaari bht taarif hogi aur hm taarif k chakkar m apne marg se bhtak skte h....

Aisi baato ka answer humare shastro m ye h ki jese chapter k end m likha hota h ki ye sirf bhakto ko hi sunana, jise sunne ki ichha ho use hi sunana  etc.. aisa important baato k liy especially likhaa hota hai...
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Dear Y V RAMUDU

Thanks for starting discussion regarding queries raised regarding spiritualism. 

Your question/doubt may answer similar queries raised in minds of other Saidevotees.

I agree with Advaitji, Kavitaparnaji and Suhaniji that Pure , Divine Ramraksha Stotra was made available to all by great sage Budhkaushik's wholeheartedness and Sai devotees are blessed with their beloved Saibaba's Shreesaisacharit only due to Hemandpant's unstinting devotion. 

These 2 examples are self explainatory that Saibaba accepts to share each other our divine experience we had with HIM.

Hemandpant told in Adhyay 49 that those are unfortunate who never tells their GURU's glory with love.
आपुल्याच गुरुची कीर्ति । अभागी जे प्रेमें न गाती । बधिर नसूनि जे नायकती । ते मंदमति मूर्तिमंत ॥१५॥ ( अध्याय ४९ , श्रीसाईसच्चरित)

Here I think experiences tells us about Sadguru Saibaba's unconditional love , His unmerited grace. So we must share them with others. Saibaba Himselg has told this in Adhyay 3 as follows
 
मग जो गाई वाडेंकोडें । माझे चरित्र माझे पवाडे । तयाचिया मी मागें पुढें । चोहींकडे उभाचि ।। १२ ।।  ( अध्याय ३ , श्रीसाईसच्चरित)
Saibaba's charitra or His Powada means description of HIS Character, His Qualities, His different ways of showering love on His deciples.
So sharing His divine experiences is must. Even Saiababa promised that even if you made any mistakes or may not be perfect but that does not matter. So Saibaba Himself assures us that don't worry , I know all may not be so perfect or so correct. But in whatever manner you sing HIS glory, His love , HE will accept that and protect that devotee from all means and all sides.

But when RAMUDU said that his doubt is " devine plans will be seperate with human thinkings". Sometimes we may wrongly predict the dreams,advises and experiences, Saibaba showed me another angle of this query. 

This reminded me few examples quoted in Shreesaisachharit by Hemandpant.
In Adhyay 41 Dev Mamaledar an ardent devotee of Saibaba wanted to know what Saibaba advised another devotee Balkram for his progress in spiritualism. That time Saibaba was not pleased . Saibaba said when He is there to provide everything to His devotee why one should go to ask another.
Here I think Saibaba wants to indicate that divine plans may be separate . As per human thinkings or his level of faith , trust , love and devotion at sadguru's lotus feet, Sadguru Saibaba may be giving different advises.

Saibaba always insisted that don't compare each other. So He wants to tell that there is a separate line of each devotee. One should try to see how much progress he/she has done in his/her life. Have they really followed Saibaba's words, teachings in day to day life ?
Suppose earlier I was having habit of taking benefits or facilities from others at free cost in my life, but after reading Saibaba's Charitra I understood that Saibaba has asked not to take anything at free of cost from any person. ( Adhyay 19- Story of ladder)
So I should observe in my life that after reading Saibaba's teachings from this Saicharitra , have I started changing my habits or still I am ignoring my Saibaba's teachings and following same practises.

Similarly one more incident I recollect about Shama . Saibaba once gave some medicine (kadha) for curing piles problem to Shama (Madhavrao Deshpande) and the problem was cured. But after some time Shama again faced the same problem of piles. This time Shama did not ask Saibaba for remedy, he was remebering the medicine Saibaba gave him last time. So without Saibaba's permission he prepared medicine and consumed. But alas! This time same medicine was not solution. The piles problem was not solved at all but he had to face great difficulty. Then he asked Saibaba and got proper solution.
This incidence tells that Saibaba's words are RAMBAN UPAY or remedy . But that may differ from situation to situation, person to person.

In above view, Saibaba's geenral teachings may be applicable to all. But when specific advise or ANUGRAH given to specific man/woman then that may differ or change for another person.

Please pardon me if I am wrong and share your views frankly with respect to above discussion.

OM KRUPASINDHU SHREE SAINATHAY NAMAHA

May Saibaba bless all with HIS unmerited love and blessings.

With regards

Suneeta Karande         



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@Sunita ji you gave words to my views ..... What you've told is actually true as you've mentioned both the cases.
So im telling a true incident here that i was too lazy to tell the day i posted my first reply
Its about
Karun daas ji maharaj ,  years back when he was living with another sadhak  , worshipped sri hari a lot and saw bhaiji ( Hanuman Prasad Poddar) as his guru
one day
BHAIJI SHRI HANUMAN PRASADJI PODDAR (look for him here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman_Prasad_Poddar)
gave him darshan. Karun das ji was so happy with this .But he didn't tell this thing to anybody....
What happened next is , he gave him darshan again, probably the next day , now he could not keep to himself, He was so happy that he told this to the sadhak who was living with him there.
And then he never got his darshan again, moreover bhai ji (Hanuman Prasad Poddar is widely known as bhai ji) told him in his dream that he is very angry with him ( karun das ji) because he told his friend about him.
Karun das ji can be contacted here:
www.radhakrishanparivar.com




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Saibaba always insisted that don't compare each other. So He wants to tell that there is a separate line of each devotee. One should try to see how much progress he/she has done in his/her life.
जिस कर्म से भगवद प्रेम और भक्ति बढ़े वही सार्थक उद्योग हैं।
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