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kyo h is kaliyug m BHAKTजन bhi kasht m?
« on: March 28, 2016, 01:07:24 PM »
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  • Jai sai ram

    Jai sainath
    Jay gurudev dutt
    Guru sai mauli kripa kara
    deva
    maine yha forum p bht dukh dekha ki mujhr lga vakai itna dukh bhakto k saath bhi h to inme aur sansaariyo m kya farak...
    ..mujhe ab to bas baba ko paana shesh lagta hai isiliy maine socha ki ab ispar bhi chintan kiya jaaye ki aakhir bhkt log q dukh sahe??.
     Pehli baat bhaaiyo aur beheno
    Ispar kuch vichaar kare alag alg perspective se

    1.
    Bhakto ko majboot bnane k liy



    Kya vakai???
    Bhakt mushkilo se ladna sikhle isiliy dukh aate hai kya???
    Majboot bnkar bhi kya karlenge hum???
    Kya ye hume mukti k layak bnaayega??.
    Kai log aksar maine dekhe h ki bhgwaan se kashto se ladne ki taakat maangte hai
    Kashto se chutkaara nahi ...sbka apna vichaar aur chintan disha hai..


    2.
    Vairagya k liy dukh aate hai



    Don't get confused with dukh and kasht...
    Kasht to aate hai but unse dukh honaa alag baat hai... jo har ghatna m bhgwad ichha ka darshan karte hai vey log vyathit nahi hote...
    Parantu kachhe bhakt ka viahwaas dol jata hai...
    Kahi kahi likha hai ki hari apne bhakto ko nirdhan bna dete hai aur unhe in moh maya ki mamta se upar uthaa dete hai...
    Bhagwat m likha h jise dukh paakr bhi vairagy nahi hua veh abhaga hi hai ..
    Abhaga matlab unfortunate...
    Ab kya kasht bhkt m vairagya laane k liy aate hai??

    3.bhakti badhaane k liy

    Ek maharaj kehte the ki agar dukh aane se bhakti badhe to samajhna ye dukh kripa ka fal h naa ki karmo ka...i like this point...

    Dukh mein sumiran sab kare, sukh mein kare na koye
    Jo sukh mein sumiran kare, to dukh kahe ko hoye
    दुख में सुमिरन सब करे, सुख में करे ना कोय |
    जो सुख में सुमिरन करे, तो दुख कहे को होय ||
    In anguish everyone prays to Him, in joy does none
    To one who prays in happiness, how can sorrow come

    Mtlb kya ye sach hai???
    Mujhe iska matlab ye hi samajh aata hai ki
    Dukh m sumiran sai ka kaun karta h??
    Jo thankful grateful कृतग्य feel kare to veh bhakt hi hoga aur aisa bhakt jo aukh m sai baba ko thank kar rha h to aavaashy hi veh dukh m bhi unhi ki ichha maanega so in the end kasht aate rahe parantu bhakti sahit antah karan hone k kaaran veh dukhi na hote hue bhgwad ichha ka anubhav karega....
    Agar aapke vichaar is dohe par alag h to aavaashy likhe...


    4.
    Ache logo k saath bura hota hai..

    apna jivan kabhi Mahabharata se compare mat karna ....
    Us comparison ko sikhne k liy guru k dwara diye gyaan ki aavashyakta hai q ki vaha sri krishna sakshaat pandav k saath the vha unki aagya thi...
    Kaliyug m ye to baat hai ki jo bhkt nhi h fir veh chahe kitna bhi acha ho uske saath bhi bura hota dekha jaata hai.
    But bhakt k saath bhi, akhir q???
    Bhkto ko pta hoga baba kaise humaari raksha karte hai...but kabhi kabhi help aane m deri lagti h.....q???


    Looking for answer now
    Jai sai raam
    Jai gurudev dutt
    Hari om hari

    jab gaumata par sankat dekhte hai, is desh ki halat dekhte hai, ganga mayiya yamuna mayiya ki sthiti dekhte hai to mera man bhi atyant vyathit ho jata hai iska uttar kisi k paas bhi " kaliyug h" isse jyada nahi hotaa...
    Parantu apne jivan m bhi ham bht se dukh to bekaar m hi liy ghumte h
    Iailiy pehle apne dukho ki checklist bnaaye...


    Fir usme vo cut karde jo aapke apne mamta m fasne k kaaran h
    Jaise love relationship vale
    Apko lagta hai aapko pyaar m dhokha mila h???
    Koi apko sympathy deta h ki veh apne karmo ka fal bhogega???
    To jo aapne bhoga vo apke karmo ka fal nhi tha???

    Ab unhe cut kare jo apke alaawa aur kisi k hai but aapne unhe apna maan rkha hai
    .ab konsi problem bachi??
    Apni health problem???
    Ab koi financially broke h to ye problem vakai problm h cz paise k bina roti ni khaapaayega to bhajan kaise karega vyakti...   

    Ab inka kaaran soche...





    Hm manushya hai
    Human life karm yoni h
    Bhog yoni animals vagarah h
    Isiliy
    bhakt kuch paap bhkti se dho deta hai...
    Dekho aap log bhakat h
    Ab bht dhyaan de
    Is poore post ka conclusion, yha hai...
    Hum bht mehngi chiz maang rahr hai baba se
    Hume baba chahiye
    Hume Sai baba ka pyaar chahiye
    Hume sai baba ki kripa chahiye
    Hume mukti chahiye
    Hume sabse mehngi chiz chahiye is duniya ki = bhakti
    Hm fir janam nahi lena chahte
    To bhaaiyo itne kasht sehne pde bhale hi but agar kuch years m baba milne vaale hi h saakshat to q dukhi hote ho???
    Agar aapko fever ho jaaye par tin din baad 3798643 crores ki lottery milne waali ho to aap dukh manayenge ya khushi????
    Isse bhi kimti baat ye hai
    Hume aur koi janam nahi lene hai isiliy.is janam m saare karm bhog kar hm mukt ho jaaye
    Isiliy hme apna prarabhdh jhelna padta hai
    Matlab apne karmo ka fal

    Hmare basaki nahi hai ki hm saare karmo ka fal seh le
    Vo to baba thode bht hi karm fal k bhog dete hai hume
    Nahi to humaare anant janm bit chuke hai bhai
    Jiska jitne baski h seh lo itne dukhi mujhse nhi dekhe jaate bhaktjan mere pyaare bhaaiyo aur beheno
    baba ko chaaho aur vyarth k dukho ko checklist se hata lo...

    Agar bhakto se maangna hi h to moh ko door karne k upaay bhakto se maango, naa ki apni jid puri karvaane k liy prayer request karo...

    Ho
     skta hai aap apne liy musibat maang rhe ho q ki jo dikhta h vo vaisa hota nahi hai....
    Aacha to aeroplane m baitha aadmi dekhta h ki aage khaai hai hume road pr chalte hue to aage road dikhti hai...
    Isiliy jo jitna upaar h level m utna jyada dekh skta hai ....hume aise hi unche guru mile hai jo sakshaat hari h to unse praapt gyaan ka laabh uthaaye...
    hm sevak kehkar khud ko
    Unhe hukum hi dete rhte h
    faaltu m faltu ki chiz maangte h
    Maangna galat nhi h
    Sai hmari maa hai
    Maangna ho to bas sai se
    But pooch bhi lo ki kya maangna h kabi kahi galat chiz na maang lena agyaan m
    Aeroplane vali theory humesha yaad rakho....
    Hm apna hi jaante hai
    Bt sai baba sbke dil dimaag ki jaante hai ...
    Apke aage sb badhiya bnte h
    But piche kaun kaise ye bas sai ji jaante hain..
    aur vyarth k mantra badal badal kar totke karne se koti guna achha h
    Gurumantra lo sai se
    Vo hi japo

    Diksha bht jaroori h

    Toh,  can  u conclude my post now ya saari mehnat bekaar???

    Conclusion      is

    ki bhkt bhi karm fal hi bhogte h bas , unhe koi strong bmvgrh bnane k liy bhagwaan dukh dene ki nhi sochte ..
    Pariksha uski hoti h jiske baare m baba ko pta na ho..
    Bt baba to sb jaante hai bhai...
    Kya humaari aukaat bhi h aise examiner ko pariksha deNe ki??


    Socho socho

    Jai sai ram

    Ps.

    Jha tak desh k dukho ki baat hai
    Gaumata ki baat h
    Ganga maayiya ki bat h
    Mujhe vishwaas h kranti hogi
    Koi sant aayenge jinke saanidhy m badlaav aayega...
    Lekin hum sab bhi unke liy jaap kare
    Apne liy to sab jaap karte hai
    Acha kai log jo khud kuch nahi karte vo bhi bhakto se kehte hai ki tum humaare liy pooja prayer karlo tum to bade bhakt ho na...... hadd hai  ..... kher sansaariyo ki baat to bhaiya rehne hi do..
    Haan to apne liy sb karte h but jo gaumaata k liy aanso bhale veh dhny hai jo ganga aur gau k liy jaap kare uspar sai adhik prasann hote h.maze ki baat h ki paapiyo ko in baato par viahwaas nahi hota ye hi unki maya hai....

    जिस कर्म से भगवद प्रेम और भक्ति बढ़े वही सार्थक उद्योग हैं।
    ॐ साईं राम

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    Re: kyo h is kaliyug m BHAKTजन bhi kasht m?
    « Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 01:57:53 PM »
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  • Respected Deviji, Bhaktjan isliye Kasht mein hain kyunkI WO BHAKT HAI, AUR GOREE CHAMDEE KE DANAV NAHIN. yahin par post hai ki Gore ko bachane BABA daude aaye. Itihaas mein DARZ hai, Afghanistan mein jab Afghanion ne Gore British ko nestanabood kar diyaa tha, ek bhi Gora nahin choda 16000 mein, tab EK Gora Dr bachkar aaya. KYUNKI wahan ki news sunkar, USS Gorae ki Biwi chintit thee, usne apnee naukrani se poocha, naukrani ne Panditji se poocha, Panditji ne Rudrabhisk karwa diya. WAHAN AFGHANI ne jab uss Gore ko ghera Tab wo Goar Dr likhta hai, ek 7-8 feet kaa Hindu Sadhu, Jatajoot wahan aaya aur usne Trishul se aisa Tandav kiya kee Afgani Mujahid maare gaye yaa bhaag gaye. Wo Dr ko sahi salamat Ujjain tak pahuncha diyaa. Aaj bhi Ujjain mein Angrez dwara Nirmit EK HEE MANDIR wahan HAI. Lekin hun Bharatiyon yaa Kaali-Brown chamdee ke liye Koi nahin aayaa. Swami Shraddhananda ke liye koi nahin aayaa, uss Danav Jihadi ki churi se bachane ko, Guru Gobind Singh ke chote bacchon ke liye koi nahin aaya. BCUZ THEY WERE BHAKTS SO TAKE FOR GRANTED, BAPUJI, SHANKRACHARYAJI, swami NARENDRA maharaj, Baba Ramdev, Sudhanshiji Maharaj.......kyunki inkee chamdee Gori nahin naa yeh Paapi hain, Paapi ke liye kisi Bhagwan ka kaleja moonh ko aata hai.,YAA FIR RISHWAT DENE KI AUQAAT GARIBON MEIN NAHIN...CORRUPTION FLOWS TOP DOWN
    KOI MASIHA . SANT AAYGA TO PRALAYA KE EK DIN BAAD JAB USKI ZAROORAT NAHIN HOGI
    « Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 01:59:46 PM by Anupam »

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    Re: kyo h is kaliyug m BHAKTजन bhi kasht m?
    « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2016, 02:16:52 AM »
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  • Om sai ram
    Sri hari
    Hari om
    Hari sai hare om

    Mere nath gurudeva sai ki ninda se siinche hue apke ye vachan hmare pap naa badhaaye aisi baba se prarthna h...

    Hari om

    Mere swami sai ji ne aapke prashn ka uttar diya h
    --
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By88EOrUo4A9RkYzOTFGd3lhaXc/view?usp=docslist_api

    Pehle ye sune fir baaki post padhe  ...

    Phle btaaye aapka agenda h kya?
    Ye bhranti failana ki sai baba gore logo par hi kripa karte hain???
    Jinhe mujhpr ek chingaari b bardasht nahi, jo mere man m uthe har prashn ka samadhaan karne ko sadev tatpar rhte hain un sai k baare m aap aise aarop kar rahe ho,
    Insb se pta chalta hai ki aap maya m fas chuke ho aur is maya m faskar aap apne hi swaami ka apmaan kar rahe ho...
    Asaaram bapu ko bhi aapki ye ninda pasand nahi aayegi...
    Waise to mere posts m iska uttar hai
    Aur aise ut pataang sawaalo ka uttar dena nahi chahiye parantu aap vakai pareshaan ho is desh ki haalat dekhkar keval isiliy mene kuch likhne ka socha h...


    Ram ji ne sita ko nikaal diya mehel se ye baat bevkoof log hi kehte hai....
    Buddhimaan kabhi aisi faaltu baate nahi sochta q ki veh jaanta h ki sri ram aur sita m prithakta nahi h, vey dono ek hi hai....

    Kripaalu maharaj k baare m aap bolte ho..
    Agar kisi upaay se unki aatma abhi yha bula li bhi jaaye to vo hme kosenge ki kis pareshaani ki baat karte ho???
    Jo deh m saha acha ya bura vo sb to mithya tha,
    M to maze m tha hari k saath , aisi aanandmayi mukti paane k liy kuch nautanki sansaar m kasht seh bhi liya to kya ho gya....

    Ek samay aisa tha ki mujhe vishnu ka ek naam hi pta tha aur aaj mujhe pura vishnusehestranaam kanthast h,
    Mere sai ne paapiyo p b kripa ki agar ye dikkat h  to paapi to sab hi hai.....
    Jo paapi nahi h veh bhi sai ki kripaa se hi....
    Aapko agar kabhi bhakti mili hoti to baba kabhi khud se vilag nahi hone dete mai bhi ek baar baba se rooth gai thi bht negetive ho gai thi tb mera samadhaan jisse hua veh h
    :-

    DEVO K DEV MAHADEV EPISODE MANSA DEVI AND ANDHAK
    vala episode dekhna chahiye shayad 13 August ka tha ye...
    Usse jo apni asliyat dikhegi ki hm kitne nich hai ki baba par bhi aarop lga dete hai hm apni durbudhhi k kaaran ...
    Tb pashchataap sehn karne yogy bhi nahi hogaa....


    Ab main pt  . Kya h itna kehne ka , ninda nhi h ye aapki balki hal hai,
    Duniya m koi bhakt sehta hai to use pidhaa to keval bhgwad vireh ki hi hoti h, kusang mtlb bure logo ka sang bhi dukh kaarak btaya gya hai...
    Ek level aisa aajata h ki maya m fase log jo hume gaali bakte hai unpar bhi daya aane lgti h..

    Mujhe b sansaari log na jaane kya kya bolte h piche se , bt jab mujhe hi unke maya m fase hone k kaaran daya aajati h to un santo ki to kyaa baat ki jaaye jinke naam yha aapne liye hai.


    Devki मईया ne bhi
    Jab apne mare hue bache sri krishna se vaapis maange the tab
    Vo bachhe jab dharti par aaye to unhone devki ko daat lagai ache se ki swarg tak pahunch to hume pareshaan karoge kya??
    Kon kiski maa?
    Kon kiska beta??
     Jinke chakkar m apne guru sai ki ninda karni chaalu kardi hai vo गुणातीत मायातीत है, guru tatv hai...
    Baba ki ninda se patan hi hoga kalyaan nahi , न ही उन संतो का इससे भला होगा और न ही aap khud ka....
    M kabhi rooth jaati hu to baba apna pyaar dikhaakar manalete hai mujhe fir kya kaaran h ki aap abhi tak roothe hai vo bhi apni hi drishti dosh k kaaran??..
    Iska matlab kabhi baba k prati prem paida hi nahi hua tha ...
    : Baba gore kaalo ka bhed karte hai isse hasyprad baat ho nahi sakti...
    Unke liy jaati vgrh kuch nahi...
    Hari brahmano se bht prem karte hai aisa bar bar shashtro m varnan hai fir bhi iskcon m dekho kitne gore lge h jaap m...
    Q ki unki karuna sab k prati h...
    Jo apne kalyaan k maarg pr h vahi kuch bhala kar skta hai...
    Jo apne hi guru ko maya m faskar gaali de uska mukh dekhnaa bhi paap btaya gya hai....

     Conclusion kya nikla bolo????

    Ye hi ki sai ko hm khud त्रिगुणमयी माया में फसे होने के कारण उनमे गुण और माया का आरोप करते हैं।
    हमारी बुद्धि जड़ हैं, उनका पार कल्पान्त में भी नहीं पा सकती।।
    Is jagat k kasht dekh kar buddhimaan log vichlit nahi hote q ki jo hota h usme kuch kaaran aavashy hai.


    Scha bhakt sachha yogi and sachha sadhak sansaar m rehta hai par uske andar sansaar nahi rehta...

    Ab itna samjhaane par bhi vahi  दुराग्रह किया तो समझ लेना की बुद्धि ही रजोगुणी हैं,
    SRI KRISHNA BHAGWAAN SAYS KI RAJOGUNI VYAKTI KO SAKSHAAT M BHI SAMJHAAU TO BHI VEH NAHI SAMAJHTA  .....
     Isiliy rajoguni ko samjhaana to bekaar hai ....
    Sanatan dharm k log bhi khoob khilli udaane vaale hai aur musalmaan b kai geeta ka prachaar karne vaale hai....
    Hindu temple poori duniya m h isiliy gore kaale ka bhed bevkoofi hai....
    Baba ne mujhe nishkaam kar diyaa h to mujhe nahi lagta ki vo kabhi apne bhakt ko dukhi dekh sakte hai .: Jb mujhe hi ye duniya nautanki lagti h to baaki santo ki kyaa baat ki jaaye...
    Maya m faskar apna kalyaan nahi ho skta aur ninda to har tarah se sewer hai...
    Mahamandleahwar Avdheshanand girj ji says
    - " नकली बैरागी ही संसार की निंदा करता हैं"
    "भक्त के लिय ये दुनिया शमशान नहीं, नित उत्सव हैं"

    I remember many things from shashtraas saying that bhgwaan m guno ka aarop karna jeev ki moorkhta hai..
    : In baato se ye bhi pta chalta hai ki aapke liy sachha laabh kitna sasta matlab rkhta h..vh keval sharirik roop se comfortable rhna h naa ki bhakti aur mukti kyoki bhakti aaur mukti to bhakto k saath sadev rehti h par atyaachaariyo k saath nahi rehti .
    Bhale hi atyaachari k saath comfort ho luxury ho par veh 84 laakh yoniyo k chakkar se mukt kahaan hai..???
    Kabhi rishi prasaad hi dhang se padh li hoti to aise कुसंश्य नहीं आते ।।

    आपके प्रिय आसाराम बापू कहते हैं
    " हम यदि जान ले की जगत में आत्मा के सिवाय दूसरा कुछ हैं ही नहीं और जो कुछ दीखता हैं वह स्वप्न मात्र हैं तो इस जगत के दुःख दारिद्र्य पाप पूण्य कुछ भी हमे अशांत नही कर सकते।
    विद्वानों, दार्शनिको व् आचार्यो की धमकी तथा अनुग्रह, आलोचना या अनुमति ब्रह्मज्ञानी पर कोई प्रभाव नही डाल सकती।आप हमेशा अंदर का ध्यान रखो। आपको कोई हानि नहीं पहुंचा सकता , केवल आपके ख्यालात ही आपके पीछे पड़े हैं।
    भय, चिंता, बैचैनी से ऊपर उठो, आपको ज्ञान का अनुभव होगा ।
    आपको जब तक बाहर चोर दीखता हैं तब तक जरूर आपके भीतर चोर ह। जब दुसरे लोग ब्रह्म से भिन्न, अयोग्य, खराब, सुधारने योग्य दीखते है तब तक ओ सुधार का बीड़ा उठाने वाले!!!तू अपनी चिकित्सा कर।।।

    --- जीवन रसायन
    आसाराम बापु
    जिस कर्म से भगवद प्रेम और भक्ति बढ़े वही सार्थक उद्योग हैं।
    ॐ साईं राम

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