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need help on "sukhmani sahib"
« on: October 06, 2007, 11:14:08 PM »
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    • om sai ram.

    sukhmani sahib is a collection of sayings of guru arjun dev ji.........5th guru of sikh panth.

    i want to know the meaning of the following-

    "जनु राता हरि नाम की सेवा

    नानक पूजै हरि-हरि देवा।"

    if anybody can plz help me?

    thank you!

    om sai ram.
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #1 on: October 07, 2007, 09:55:54 PM »
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    • Om Sai Ram~~~

    Abhinav ji,
    sairam...

    main thora jo jante hu toh likh rhe hu....

    Jan Rata Hari Naam Ki Seva~~~
    Man Hari Ke Naam Ki Seva Mein Ranga Gaya Hai....
    (jinka mann ab Hari naam ki seva main rang gya hai....ab unko )

    Nanak Pujey Hari Hari Deva~~~
    Nanak Hari Roop Devta Ki Puja Karta Hai...
    ( ab vo hamesha Namak Hari ki puja karte hai ...)



    http://forum.spiritualindia.org/glossary-t20622.0.html

    aap ko iss link se words meanings main kafi help mile ge....

    BABA Nanak bless u ....

    Jai Sai Ram~~~
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 09:11:40 AM »
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    • tana ji,
    om sai ram.

    first of all i am veryyyyyyyyyy sorry, for late reply.

    tana ji thank you sooooooo much for your help. actually a few days before i was reading sukhmani sahib. i have a tika wich also contains the hindi meaning of the same. but when i read the meaning of this "padi", i felt it was not right. so i decieded to consult it with someone who has the knowledge of this.

    i consulted with a sikh family, they told me the same meaning which was there in my book. but i was still not satisfied. therefore i thought to consult it here.

    and now i am satisfied with this meaning b'z this is the meaning i was thinking to be. you have solved my prob.

    now i want to know the meaining of another padi-
    this is from asatpadi-14, tukdi 5th.

    "Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa
    Apuney Kaaraj Mahi Aapi Samaiaa"


    thank you in advace.

    om sai ram.
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 08:11:28 PM »
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    • Om Sai Ram~~~

    Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa~~~
    Jaisa Tha Vaisa Nazar Aaya
    [jaisa sab kuch tha vaisa he nazar aata hai ]

    Apuney Kaaraj Mahi Aapi Samaiaa~~~
    Hari Apni Rachna Mein Swayam Basa Hua Hai
    [Hari toh ,Bhagwan toh jo bhi unhone banaya hai usme khud he base hue hai]

    Jai Sai Ram~~~
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    Aum ShantiH ShantiH ShantiH"~~~

    May all the worlds be happy. May all the beings be happy.
    May none suffer from grief or sorrow. May peace be to all~~~

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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 08:54:50 AM »
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    • tana ji,
    om sai ram.

    tana ji, let me say you thanks first for spending your valuable time for me...........thanks a lot!

    tana ji, mai first line se thoda sa confuse ho raha hun-
    Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa~~~
    Jaisa Tha Vaisa Nazar Aaya
    [jaisa sab kuch tha vaisa he nazar aata hai ]

    mai ye nahi samajh paa raha hun ki baba arjun dev ji issme kehna kya chahte hai?

    kyoki agar ye prabhu ke vishay me kaha gaya hai to, bhagwaan ko to koi sadharan insaan dekh hi nahi sakta hai, keval ek sadhak hi usko dekh sakta hai.

    and secondly-

    bhagwaan to nirakaar hai ( as discribed in every religious epics, be it a hindu epic, muslim or sikh epics). secondly ye bhi sach hai ki hum uss ishwar ko jis roop me dekhna chahte hai, woh ussi roop me hame darshan dete hai..........again as par religious epics of all religions.

    so i am confused here..........ki
    Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa~~~
    Jaisa Tha Vaisa Nazar Aaya
    [jaisa sab kuch tha vaisa he nazar aata hai ]

    tana ji, kahi iska arth ye to nahi hona chahiye ki-

    manushye khud jaisa hota hai (ya jiska jaisa bhaav hota hai), parbhu usko uso roop me najar aata hai?


    could you plz make it more clear to me?

    thanks a lot!

    om sai ram.

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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 11:11:26 PM »
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    • Om Sai Ram~~~

    Sorry Abhinav ji for late reply....actully aaj he msg dekha...sooo sorry...

    Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa~~~
    Jaisa Tha Vaisa Nazar Aaya
    [jaisa sab kuch tha vaisa he nazar aata hai ]

    mai ye nahi samajh paa raha hun ki baba arjun dev ji issme kehna kya chahte hai?

    kyoki agar ye prabhu ke vishay me kaha gaya hai to, bhagwaan ko to koi sadharan insaan dekh hi nahi sakta hai, keval ek sadhak hi usko dekh sakta hai.

    inn sab main yeh bataya gya hai ki jaisa hota hai...jo bhi hota hai...vhai nazar aata hai...jo bhi ho rha hai...paas ho yaa dur...


    bhagwaan ko dekh nahi sakte yeh hum sab ko pata hai...bas hum unko mehsoos  karte hai...kuch bhi aise chamatkaar hote hai jo unke hame hone ka ehsaas dilate hai...

    Jaha tak mujhe thora sa SUKHMANI SAHIB ka gyan hai toh mujhe yhe lagta hai isska matlab...

    Jaisa Sa Taisa Dristaiaa~~~
    Jaisa Tha Vaisa Nazar Aaya
    [jaisa sab kuch tha vaisa he nazar aata hai ]

    Apuney Kaaraj Mahi Aapi Samaiaa~~~
    Hari Apni Rachna Mein Swayam Basa Hua Hai
    [Hari toh ,Bhagwan toh jo bhi unhone banaya hai usme khud he base hue hai]

    Hari ne jo racha aur jaisa usne hume dikhaya hai vaisa he hum sab ko nazar aata hai...vo toh jhud he apne iss shristi main samaya hua hai...

    aur maine gutake main bhi abhinav dekh liya hai...yhe likha hai..

    Jai Sai Ram~~~




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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 11:56:54 PM »
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    • TANA JI,

    THANKS  A LOT FOR SHARING YOUR VALUABLE TIME.....................

    TANA JI, AB KUCH SAMAJH ME AA RAHA HAI. BUT STILL MAI EK BAAR AUR APSE CONFIRM KARNA CHAHTA HUN KI KYA MAI SAHI SAMAJH RAHA HUN?

    KYA ISKA MEANING YE HAI KI-
    "Hari ne jo racha aur jaisa usne hume dikhaya hai vaisa he hum sab ko nazar aata hai...vo toh jhud he apne iss shristi main samaya hua hai..."

    KYA YAHA PAR JAISA SA TAISA DIRSHTAYA, SHRISHTY KE LIYE USE KIYA GAYA HAI?, HARI (ISHWAR) KE LIYE NAHI?

    KYA ISKA MATLAB YE HAI KI= YE SANSAR JAISA ISHWAR NE BANAYA HAI WAISA HI DIKHAYI DETA HAI? YA ISKA MATLAB YE HAI KI BHAGWAN JAISA HAI, WAISA HI DIKHAYI DETA HAI?

    AGAR HO SAKE TO THODA SA KASHT AUR KIJIYEGA, AUR MERA DOUBT CLEAR KIJIYE.

    OM SAI RAM.
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 04:43:46 AM »
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    • Om Sai Ram~~~

    Haan JAISA SA TAISA DIRSHTAYA, SHRISHTI KE LIYE USE KIYA GAYA HAI...

    HARI, Means Ishwar...

    KYA ISKA MATLAB YE HAI KI= YE SANSAR JAISA ISHWAR NE BANAYA HAI WAISA HI DIKHAYI DETA HAI? YA ISKA MATLAB YE HAI KI BHAGWAN JAISA HAI, WAISA HI DIKHAYI DETA HAI...

    Maine kiya hai clear ki iska matlab .....Hari ne jo racha aur jaisa usne hume dikhaya hai vaisa he hum sab ko nazar aata hai...vo toh khud he apne iss shristi main samaya hua hai...

    Jai Sai Ram~~~

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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 12:35:36 PM »
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    • Tana ji and abhinav ji good job,
    but can i know the mening of
    मी पापी-पतित धीमंद । 
    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
    jo aap har post me likhate ho.
    jai sai ram
    Hemali.
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 10:24:43 PM »
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    • hemali ji,
    om sai ram.

    hemali ji, bahut dino ke baad aapka koi post dekha. hope everything is fien there..........
    uncle ji ab kaise hai? uncle ji india aa gaye ya abhi aapke hi paas hai?

    hemali ji,

    "मी पापी-पतित धीमंद । 
    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।"

    lines baba ki kankad arti ke iss bhajan se li gayi hai-

    "shiri sad guru baba sai ...........tuj wanchuni ashray nahi"

    aur jo lines mai likhta hun uska arth hai-

    मी पापी-पतित धीमंद = मैं पापी हूँ, पतित हूँ, धीमन्द (नीच) हूँ।

    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी = हे! गुरुनाथ, मुझे त्वरित(तुरन्त) तार  दीजिए (अर्थात मेरा कल्याण कीजिए)।

    om sai ram.
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    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
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    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #10 on: November 02, 2007, 09:21:00 AM »
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    • Thank you so much Abhinav ji,
    yes dad is fine and he is in India now, I went there with him and back so that's why i was not able to come in mandir..
    baba aapka hamesa bhala kare...
    aap bataye aap kese ho? aur aapke parivar me sab kese he?
    aapki job ka kaya huva?
    jai sai ram
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 10:51:48 AM »
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    • hemali ji,
    om sai ram.

    thanks for your wishes...............

    nahi hemali ji, abhi meri job ka na to kuch hua hai na hi koi hope hai.

    aaj jab mai ghaziabad ke shastry nagar wale mandir me gaya (jaha mai aksar jata hun) to waha mujhe kai aise log mile jo baba ke darbar me aaye aur unki probs solve ho gayi.

    woh sabhi iss baat se bahut khush the ki baba ne unki financial and other probs solve kar di.

    iss liye ye to sach hai hemali ji ki baba sabki sunte hai...........aur sabki wish poori bhi karte hai. lekin jaisa ki mai apni lines me likhta hun-

    "मी पापी-पतित धीमंद = मैं पापी हूँ, पतित हूँ, धीमन्द (नीच) हूँ।"

    shayad yahi wajha hai ki baba meri wish poori karne mai der kar rahe hai aur meri ek bhi prob ka solution mujhe aaj tak nahi mil saka hai.
    but jaisa baba theek samjhe....................aur jis layak mujhe samjhe................

    om sai ram.

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    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
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    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 01:42:11 PM »
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    • Abhivan ji,
    First of all aap, me ya koi aur chahe jintane hi pap kare.. baba ke liye ham sada hi uske child hi he.. aur vo sab ko ek najar se hi dekhate he.. ha sayad ye samaj ne me hame der lage lekin baba sabko hi aapne hisse ki kushi ka ehasas karate he.. aur aapko ye bat jald hi anubhav hogi.. dekhiye aap bahot hi jaldi baba ka koi chmatkar payege.. aur abhinav ji bar bar aapne aapko मी पापी-पतित धीमंद = मैं पापी हूँ, पतित हूँ, धीमन्द (नीच) हूँ।"kehakar sarminda mat kijiye.. aap se bada baba ka koi bhi bhakta nahi he .. aur ham sab baba ki sache dil se bhakti tabhi kar sakte he.. jan hamare pap mit jate he..aur ham unati ki rah par chalane lagate he...
    sach me agar aapki job ka kuch nahi ho raha he.. to usake piche baba ka koi aacha hi maksad hoga aur ye aap bad me jan payege... bharosa rakhiye baba ke darbar me sab ko kuch na kuch milta hi he.. koi bhi khali hath nahi lautata....
    baba aapki sabhi manokamana ye jaldi puri kare ye meri baba ke charno me prathana he..
    jai sai ram
    baba please bless abhinav ji...
    jai sai ram
    Hemali.
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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #13 on: November 02, 2007, 11:43:10 PM »
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    • HEMALI JI,
    OM SAI RAM.

    HEMALI JI, THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS...........THANKS A LOT!

    BUT PATA NAHI KYU AB KOI UMMEED BAKI NAHI RAHI HAI BUT PHIR BHI BABA KE PRATI SAMARPTI REHNE KA MAN KARTA HAI.

    AB MAI ISS BAAT KO SOCHTA HI NAHI HUN KI BABA MUJHE KYA DE RAHE HAI, BAS DIL KARTA HAI TO SIRF YE KI BABA KE LIYE JEETA RAHU................BABA KE LIYE HI JAAN DE DUN.

    AB TO SAB KUCH BABA KI ICHHA PAR CHHOD DIYA HAI. YAHA TAK KI AB MAI BABA SE KUCHH MANGTA BHI NAHI HUN.................WOH MUJHE JIS CHEEJ KE LAYAK SAMJHENGE DE DENGE.

    OM SAI RAM.
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    Offline hemalisoni

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    Re: need help on "sukhmani sahib"
    « Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 10:06:33 AM »
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    • Abhinav ji,
    Very nice, sayad aapko sache arth me baba ke prati lagav ho gaya he, aur jab hame baba se prit ho jati he tab ham unse kuch aapeksha nahi rakhate aur sab kuch un par hi chod dete he.. aur vo phir esi leela dikhate he.. ke una par se hamara vishwas kabhi nahi dagmagata.. aur dekhana aap par bhi baba ki esi hi leela jarur hogi….
    Baba abhinav ji ke sabhi dukho ka nivaran layiye…
    Jai sai ram
    Hemali.
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