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Title: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: gaurav_dctm on April 30, 2007, 04:26:59 AM
Om Sri Sai Ram..

Dear Sai devotees,

For those of you who believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is NOT reborn as Sathya Sai Baba, please visit the following beautiful links:-

Article "Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same" on

http://saibaba.ws/avatar/shirdisathya/shirdisathya.htm

Please read the numerous miracles that Sathya Sai Baba devotees are facing (similar to what Shirdi Sai Baba devotees) are facing till date:-

http://saibaba.ws/miracles.htm

About 30 - 40 pics of Udi/Vibhuti manifestation on Satya Sai Baba's pictures in a Sai devotee's house in London:

http://saibaba.ws/miracles2/rajivadatia.htm


Before its too late and before we fail to understand and pay our earnest regards and love to the Lord Himself , please bow down at His holy presence...We have God Himself living on this Earth while we are alive...something that not everyone gets in his/her life!! We all admire people who were present when Shirdi Sai Baba was alive...we have an opportunity too!!

I am ashamed to say that I myself (till a few days back) used to believe that Sathya Sai Baba is not God...and that He is not another 'Sai incarnation' because of some silly articles on the web by some atheists...PLEASE SHED ALL DOUBTS AND BOW DOWN......I think I had a vision of Satya Sai Baba yesternight...just vaguely remember it...

God bless everyone
Gaurav

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: posting on April 30, 2007, 05:48:21 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................

Even U and Shirdi Sai Baba are One and same.Just totally surrender to Baba.U will realize the same experience of Sathya Sai.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................


Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: tana on April 30, 2007, 06:22:37 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................

Even U and Shirdi Sai Baba are One and same.Just totally surrender to Baba.U will realize the same experience of Sathya Sai.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................





Om Sai Ram...

Om Sri Sai Nathaya Namha...Om Sri Sai Nathaya Namha...
Om Sri Sai Nathaya Namha...Om Sri Sai Nathaya Namha...

Jai Sai Ram...

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: Kavitaparna on April 30, 2007, 06:35:51 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................

Even U and Shirdi Sai Baba are One and same.Just totally surrender to Baba.U will realize the same experience of Sathya Sai.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah................................


Allah Malik
Sab Ka Malik Aik
Om Sai Shirdi Sai Dwarakamai

Samarth Sadguru Sainath Maharaj Ki Jai

For those of you who believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is NOT reborn as Sathya Sai Baba, please visit the following beautiful links:-

Article "Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same"


1. WHILE BABA HAS PROVED TO US BEYOND ANY DOUBT THAT HE IS DEATHLESS AND BIRTHLESS, THE QUESTION OF REBIRTH TO HIM DOES NOT ARISE.

2. BABA HAS ASSURED TO SAFEGUARD AND EXTEND HIS PROTECTION TO HIS CHILDREN (DEVOTEES) EVEN AFTER THE MAHA SAMADHI FROM HIS TOMB. THEN THERE IS NO NECESSITY OF DESCENDANTS FOR BABA EITHER IN THE FORM OF ANOTHER BABA OR IN THE FORM OF REBIRTH.

3. AGAIN THE SAME PRINCIPLE APPLIES THAT UNLESS THERE IS DEATH OR END OF AVATAR, THE NECESSITY OF FOLLOWER TO HIS SINGHASAN DOES NOT ARISE. SHREE SHIRDI SAI BABA HAS PROVED AND HAS BEEN BLESSING HIS DEVOTEES WITH UMPTEEN EVIDENCES AND EXPERIENCES BEYOND ANYONE'S DOUBT AND IMAGINATION THAT HE  HIMSELF IS THE ALL LIVING AND NON LIVING THINGS IN THIS UNIVERSE.

THE ABOVE ARE THE ABSTRACTS FROM A BOOK AND I AGREE WITH THIS FULLY TOO.

BLESSED ARE WE TO BE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF OUR SADGURU SAINATH MAHARAJ.

We are blessed with the blessings of Shirdi Sainath with us allways and by all means.

Once Deepak Bhai has given an excellent post on this. He has stated so clearly about the opinion expressed by some of the devotees (about some links giving their true stories of Satya Sai Baba and how they suffered about him etc.,) that 'we should let the devotees of Satya Sai to be happy by not criticising him since, those devotees who have been having trust in him and might feel bad if we do so. So whether we worship some one or not, let us not interfere with the worshipping of others'.

I shall give the link the moment I locate the same. Deepak Bhai's post has made me feel and acknowledge how matured his mind is.

Let Baba's Lotus Feet be our Sole Refuge.

Baba bless us all
Baba be with us all

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: saidasan on April 30, 2007, 07:20:32 AM
To realize God one needs a Guru who has realized his self. To realize a Guru like Shirdi Sai sometimes we need the help of a person who has realizeed Guru's Aatma which in this case is a Paramatma and not Jeevatma.

Shri Narasimhaswamiji was one such soul and he has dispelled claims long back that Shirdi Sai has reincarnated. Plz Google and get it!

Shirdi Sai's principles (life and teachings) are timeless, even after 1000 years people would relate it because it was Universal. There is no need for him to give upadesh in a different form. Besides he certainly hasn't shed his body, he still shows up with his body when a devotee exerts in his Spiritual path. There are many devotees living to testify this truth.

Posting has said it beautifully "You are him".   Surrender wholeheartedly with mind, body and thoughts, you will realize him for sure. When you realize him you need not worry about right and wrong, who is what, dharma and Adharma because what you do/think/act/feel will always be correct…these are the pulp of Krishna's upadesh to Arjuna in Gita w.r.t. Surrender.

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: posting on April 30, 2007, 08:34:42 AM
Om Sai Nathaya Namah...................

Few days back Sureshji has posted a very beautiful post"See God in All".

We are all incarnation of God.But because of Self Doubt we don't believe.If we cannot believe on ourselves then how can you believe Satya Sai.

U,all forum members,this universe,every atom are not separate from Sai Baba and Satya Sai.But Again by doubt and igorance we are separate.All are divine and God.

Just follow one Guru with total devotion and total surrender.U will reach the destination.Too many cooks spoil the food.

I am not saying Satya Sai is not God.Saidasan has right said "You are God".Then there is no difference between U and Satya Sai.

If we can have faith on Stone Idols why not on Satya Sai.But with total devotion and total surrender.Just on One SadhGuru at a time.Stone Idols are Image of God.

Too many Gurus will only confuse U.Then more doubtfull u will become.Too many birds in the bush are worth One In Hand.

See God in All and Universe will be God for You.That is heavenly experience.

It is immature to walk on path of separatness between Souls.All this you see in Universe is Image of God,with Just One Divine Spirit Inside All.

Just surrender totally at the lotus feet of Baba and all this doubts of separatness with vanish.Then U have become God.No one is above you and no one below U.

Om Sai Nathaya Namah...................

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: saidasan on April 30, 2007, 10:14:45 AM
OM SAI RAM!
Every mind is a part of universal mind, every aatma is a part of universal aatma i.e. Paramatma. Aatma of a tiger is the same as the aatma present in us. But we don't go near the tiger unless it is caged. If all aatmas can be universally approached then why not feed a tiger uncaged? Lord doesn't want us to work that way.
A story I read a few days back crosses my mind.
There was a disciple of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa who saw God in all forms and connected all aatmas to the Paramatma. This guy once wanted to feed the tiger that was roaming in a forest, he went ahead despite repeated requests by his driver not to do so. He comes back badly attacked and complains to Paramahamsa that there was some flaw in the principle that God is everywhere and in everything. Ramakrishna replies "There is God in tiger, True. There's god in you, True but dear why did you not listen to the God who was in your driver?"
I think this story is self-explanatory that it's not wise to follow fake god-men whoever it is and however big/popular they are.
Jai Sairam.

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: adwaita on April 30, 2007, 12:53:03 PM
Now days, I see so many photos of satya sai and amma bhagvan to which ever temple I go. When a temple is built for certain lord, why not we worship the same lord only? Similarly when this website is completely, solely dedicated to our lord incarnate dear shirdi sai baba, then why don’t we continue with the same? As posting ji said, why not we all continue our firm faith and worship only one god (our shirdi sai baba) to avoid confusion. Of course worshipping certain god depends upon every individual. Its one’s own wish. If we think about seeing god in a living soul, why satya sai baba? Why don’t we see god in our parents? If there are so many websites related to his miracles then there are some n number of websites against him where there are so many posts by his own students of his ashram. Now which one should we believe? According to sai satcharita baba never told that he will come back in kalyug. Baba is ever alive in his devotees’ hearts. If baba collected money from someone, he used to distribute the whole money and by the end of the day his pocket was empty. Our dwarakamai was not built with gold bricks. I am sorry if I offended someone but please please please let’s continue our firm faith and worship our shirdi sai baba only, in this website  :-*. om sai ram.


Gayatri
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: posting on May 01, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
Om Shri Nathaya Namah

We should see Baba in everybody because only Baba is there in everbody.He is doing everything in this world from inside.

We should see the things as it is.Let Satya Sai will be Satya Sai.We have to see him as he is.We cannot change him but we can change only ourselves.Because only thing we can control in this world is our mind but we try to control things which really not in our control.Why waste energy discussing things which are irrelevant to our spiritual advancement.We should always see good qualities in everyone and not the negative ones.Also we are not so much spiritually advanced that our mind can make out difference between fake and real one.So let see things as it is.Leave it to Baba to answer them.He is our sole refuge.

Wheather people are worshiping Satya Sai or any Guru but at the end of the day they are worshiping invisible and omnipresent Baba present inside Satya Sai or other Gurus.Worshipper also have Baba inside them and Satya Sai also have Baba inside him.So Baba worshipping himself.This way Baba is only doing everything.Lets see things in this way in every of our activities.Make Baba stand everywhere the minds goes.This way whole world will be Baba to us.

Lets make our Faith on Baba very strong.

Lets totally surrender to Baba with mind and body.

Om Shri Nathaya Namah...................
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: saidasan on May 02, 2007, 04:16:05 AM
We should see Baba in everybody because only Baba is there in everbody.
Worshipper also have Baba inside them and Satya Sai also have Baba inside him.


I'm afraid I have to differ with you Pravin (Posting). Every one of us has a part of Unmanifested Soul.

Shirdi Sai is definitely an embodied form of the Paramatma which is the supreme Soul. Sai certainly doesn't reside in every Jeevatma (the soul that is encapsulated by Body, Birth and Death) that is present in the world or in every one of his devotees, and Guru’s like Satya Sai et all.

There's a full chapter dedicated in Gita – Raja Vidya Raja Guhya yoga that describes the kingly secret of God's aspects and manifestations. If you observe Sai Satcharitra is nothing but a personified life account of Gita's Principles.

God says in Gita "All the aatmas evolve from me but I don't reside in them, All the Gunas Satwa, Rajas and Thamas come from me but I don't reside in them, I'm everywhere" … in the sense Whatever you see is in me, which doesn't mean I'm in them.


God is the superset and everything else is a subset. Subset resides in the superset but not vice versa.
Every entity created by God is a circle inside that Super circle - GOD.

God resides in a devotee's heart when he/she merges his Soul to god and follows the path of rigorous Dharma. Unfortunately such souls are few because Dharma itself has many paths and reflections. To cite an instance
... Ramakrishna Paramahmsa says "A scavenger who removes filth without getting disturbed about his profession with a thought that I’m doing my duty gets moksha easily than a person who sits in a cave and follows serious thapas (Penance).

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: posting on May 02, 2007, 07:58:40 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah...............

Good you differed.Now its time to read Gospel of Ramkrishna.This reading will clear your doubts.

The scavenger does the duty with love being the servant of God and with a thought that he doing Duty of God.His mind is always with God.In filth also he see God.That is the truth.God is also in filth.

There is just One.Two,Three........etc or subset a illusion.

Lets clear this doubt not only be reading but by also experience.

Shri Sant Dyaneshwar Maharaj the composer of Dyaneshwari says that we should not enter the Jungle of words or Books until we personally experience the God.

Lets leave it to Sai to clear the doubts.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah...............

Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sureshsarat on May 02, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Dear All
Excerpt from SSC:

Once it so happened that a devotee by name Pant, a disciple of another Sad-guru had the good fortune of visiting Shirdi. He had no mind to go to Shirdi, but man proposes one way and God disposes the other. He was travelling in a B.B. & C.I. Rly. train where he met many friends and relations bound for Shirdi. They all asked him to accompany them and he could not say nay. They alighted at Bombay while pant got down at Virar. There he took the permission of his Sadguru for the Shirdi trip and after arranging for the expenses, left with the party for Shirdi. They all reached the place in the morning and went to the Masjid at about 11 A.M. Seeing the concourse of the devotees assembled for Baba's worship, they were all pleased, but Pant suddenly got a fit and fell senseless. They were all frightened, still they tried their best to bring him to his senses. With Baba's grace and with pitchers of water which they poured over his head, he regained his consciousness and sat upright as if he was just awakened from sleep. The omniscient Baba knowing that he was a disciple of another Guru, assured him fearlessness and confirmed his faith in his own Guru, by addressing him as follows :- "Come what may, leave not, but stick to your Bolster (support, i.e. Guru) and ever remain steady, always at-one-ment (in union) with him." Pant at once knew the significance of this remark and thus he was reminded of his Sad-guru. This kindness of Baba he never forgot in his life.

Now the questions are :
Who was the guru of Mr. Pant ?
Was he a better / great or superior guru than our Lord Sai?
Or since our Lord Sai himself has approved him, is a good Guru?

Now I know, the above questions are really foolish and trivial. But again, these or various forms of these questions arise in our minds. Long ago, once when I was trying to extol christianity, one Guru asked me what do you know about Hinduism that you compare it with Christianity. Yes ! when we compare, we need to know the merits and demerits of all involved. But when it comes to religion or spirituality, a life time is not enough. Is it really possible to fathom the  christianity or completely understand hinduism ? No neither is possible. Each are superior.
So are Gurus.
There is a small story. A devotee goes to a guru and asks for darshan of God. The Guru asks him to wait. So on the devotee goes and asks every day. One day the Guru gets exasperated and asks the devotee to go into the jungle where he can see God.  The devotee with implicit faith in his guru's words, goes into the jungle and gets to see God. He comes back, falls at his guru's feet and expresses his happiness. Now, it is the turn of the guru to be surprised. He claims, that how could his devotee be blessed such, when the guru himself had never seen God.

The morale is the Guru might be anything : A fake, an imposter, a person with little knowledge. But if the disciple has Sradha and Saburi even the imposter's words can work wonders. That's what Guru charitra is all about and that is Guru parampara. With faith, even stone can work miracles.

So what is the point in discussing about Sathya Sai Baba or any one else. What is important is how good and strong  our faith is.

How could it be that when a few of us in the satsang could see the white dhoti and some could not. Who has benefited more : The one who has seen or those who were with completely closed eyes ?

And as to the Superset and subset in spirituality, I beg to differ with Saidasanji. Dear Srikant, the Superset and subset cannot be really applied to this area. If baba is a superset then what about the Shakti, the Trimurthis. And if they are the superset then what about our Lord Sai. Again, if we take only the gurus, then what about Sri Datta, Sri Narasimha Saraswatiji.  If they can be termed as one and hence as a single superset, then what about the identity and individuality ? And  when we consider ourselves as part of our lord, then are we not the same supersets. And how could there be so many supersets. So accepting again that all of us are a part of the Lord and hence we are sub sets (or supersets) then why discriminate Shri Sathya Sai Baba ?

The bible (correct me if I am wrong and forgive me) says Satan was the best disciple of the Lord. Even Upasani Baba was a good disciple of the Lord Sai.

My only question, are we really qualified to rake up this issue ? Why complicate and confuse ourselves with such controversial topics.
I have read that a great disciple of Lord Sai when confronted about Shri Sathya Sai baba replied as follows
(this is actually a foreword of Mr. Bhattam Sriramamurthy, Former MP to LS. The foreword to the book Divine Miracles of Shri Shirdi Sai baba , A record of thrilling experiences of Late Dr. P.S. Ramasami reproduced here for the benefit of all)

"After I came into the fold of the global movement of Bhagawan Sri Satya Saibaba, I had an occasion to interact with Dr. Swami once. When I earnestly anticipated to elicit his understanding and views on the contemporary phenomena of Bhagawan Sri Satya Sai baba, i still remember vividly the ringing words of Dr. Swami --- " M. Ramu, I am like an orthodox Hindu Woman who knows only one husband and no one else. I am wedded to Sri Shirdi Baba and I lov and serve Him so intensely and enormously that I cannot spare myself for any other thought."  --- "
With this immediate above experience of an ardent disciple and the words "Stick to your bolster " from the Great Lord Sai's mouth, what else is necessary.

And dear friends, let me again quote my previous words (else where in the forum): blind faith is possible where the illogical seems logical. There is no logic or analysis possible in spirituality. Unlearning of our knowledge is a must.

I request your opinions and corrections in all humbleness.

Thanks for the patience.
Suresh
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: Kavitaparna on May 02, 2007, 09:16:20 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM


"I am like a married Woman who knows only one husband and no one else. I am wedded to Sri Shirdi Baba and I lov and serve Him so intensely and enormously that I cannot spare myself for any other thought."  --- "


JAI SAI RAM
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sushmakomandur on May 02, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
OM SAI RAM,For me my heart is filled with one grace full guru of shirdi...i don't think to replace or give some space in my heart to one more guru.People say he is incarniation of shirdi sai..but why we need one more if we have one precious gem..I think this is most controversial discussion which is happening from few years.Gautamji..for me my shirdi valle baba is everything i don't ever try to see what other gurus re manifesting and showing miracles.
Sorry if i wrote something inappropriate.
OM SAI RAM.
OM SAI RAM.
OM SAI RAM.
Sushma
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: saidasan on May 02, 2007, 10:06:21 AM
"God is also in filth."

Filth, dirt, Lust, Anger are all created by Men and not God. In Gita God says everything is in him that he created at the time of evolution like Space, Air, Water, Earth and many more. Lust, greed, anger, hatred are emotions arising from the combinations of three Gunas. God clearly says that he created the 3 gunas but not its by products. These by-products were created since Adam and eve because Men failed to realize that he has a part of Paramatma in him.
I trust the book (Gita) which says so, incase you have a different purview, i respect it and we shall agree to disagree.
Jai sairam.
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If baba is a superset then what about the Shakti, the Trimurthis. And if they are the superset then what about our Lord Sai. Again, if we take only the gurus, then what about Sri Datta, Sri Narasimha Saraswatiji.  If they can be termed as one and hence as a single superset, then what about the identity and individuality ?

There are really no Trimurtis (shiva, Vishnu and Brahma) with bodies as described by our epics. There is only one Nirgun (Formless) which creates so many forms. This has been stressed in both Gita and SSC.

This Nirgun is the universal soul. Even a Jeevatma which transcedents its earthly nature and liberates (gets Moksha) is free to take a Body, Mind at any size, Shape at its will. If this can be achieved by any Jeevatma then Paramatma can easily create multiple bodies at its will. Bodies are many but the soul is one. Soul of you and me may be identical but each has its tag of Prarabdha karma that is sins carried from past births which determines our current birth and our inherent nature. But with Jesus, Sai, Allah and various incarnations of Datta their souls are pure bcos it is Paramatma. There is no individuality with such messiahs because individuality arises from Ego and ignorace. Ego that I am the body and ignorace that there is no part of Paramatma in me.
It sounds like back to square one in the debate that if held true then why not respect the part of Paramatma in any person even if he is a fake? The fact is Paramatma is an ocean of water and we have only a drop. A better analogy would be a seed and tree.

Our Jeevatma has the part of paramatma like a seed of the Banyan tree, it's encompassed in a tiny seed, when a man takes a quest to realize GOD it grows as big as the tree. That was exactly the state of Sai, and other god realized people. A seed that is unplanted doesn't grow to a tree, a mind that is not turned inverted (mentioned in SSC) doesn't grow spiritually but when it does Jeevatma attains the state of mind of God, which not neccasirily means powers to produce miracles like God but power to recognize Uniform Vision ... it starts treating all alike including animals. That's why Sai allowed Cats and dogs to eat his Food.
so if someone wants to worship the Dormant Paramatma in every body nobody stops them except that there's a price to pay!

My only question, are we really qualified to rake up this issue ?

Certainly not. Hence I add this disclaimer "This could have limitations of subjective purview".





Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: OmSaiRamNowOn on May 02, 2007, 12:43:24 PM
JAI SAI KRSNA !

ALL GLORIES TO SRI KRSNA AND BABA SAI and all dear devotees.

I would respectfully offer my views finding no sense in such findings at all  - because I have been reading wonderful teachings from both  and I see a lot of wisdom in what both have given to mankind. Lets focus on teachings and techniques from them rather than judging anybody.  For someone whom you learn anything from, he is your teacher/Guru whether you see/meet him in person or not or whether they can do miracles or not.
I keep an open mind for teachings from any source and it is in our best interests not to blaspheme/judge anyone for any reason. Lets make this precious human life worth while by offering prostrations to all Gurus and focus on following their teachings.
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sureshsarat on May 02, 2007, 08:14:33 PM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Dear All
So Be It.
suresh
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: ANKITA on May 02, 2007, 11:50:18 PM
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Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: posting on May 03, 2007, 10:04:41 PM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah..........................

Human being cannot make a even atom or electron.He only take what it available in nature and assemble thems.So man is not a creator.

The assembling work is also done by God but because of ego and ignorant mind he will never accept.Human being is powered by God.Everything in this universe in powered by HIM.

God is beyond body and Mind.With Peaceful mind and total surrender we can reach him.We are nothing.

To experience God please don't get into Jungle of words or books.Many people who haven't experienced God practically but reading books are giving sermons and writing books.This way they are fooling themselves as well as people.

So my request to everybody is that lets practically experience God and lets talk after that.But after Realization people generally don't speak.Because they don't have words to describe Him.Fools and ignorant only talk but experience people never talk but they will teach other to experience themselves practically.So lets not make fool of ourselves.

Saints are like drops of water from ocean who come and satisfy the thirst of thirty people and when there work is over,they again become one with the Ocean(BABA).Can u find that drop of water in the ocean.That drop was become ocean.It has become God.All Saints are God.Do not differentiate between them.So Baba is Ocean and Ocean is Just One.

Ganeshji,SAI,Jesus,Mohammed are just names and forms of same BABA.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah..........................





Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sushmakomandur on May 03, 2007, 10:23:41 PM
SAI RAM,
BABA ALWAYS TOLD US ALL PEOPLE BELONG TO ONE KULLAM MANAVA KULLAM..SO POINT IS HERE ABOUT IS SATHYA BABA OR BELOVED FATHER SAI OF SHIRDI...FOR ME ONLY GRACEFULL SAI OF SHIRDI,NONE CAN REPLACE HIM,WHEN WE RE GETTING EVERYTHING FROM ONE WHY TO STARVE FOR OTHERS..SO IF I FOLLOW ALL TEACHINGS AND PRINCIPLES OF OUR SHIRDI BABA I THINK MY GOAL IS ACHEIVED..
JAI SHIRDI BABA KI..MY LIFE GETS SOME MEANING..
OM SRI SAI NATHAYA NAMAHA.
OM SRI SAI NATHAYA NAMAHA.
OM SRI SAI NATHAYA NAMAHA.
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sonikaputtoo on May 03, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Om shri sadguru shirdi sai nathaya namaha!!!!!!!!! :-*
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: rajiv uppal on October 29, 2008, 06:01:32 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: MANAV_NEHA on October 29, 2008, 06:17:23 AM
I M SORRY TO SAY EVERYONE SAI BABA & SATYA SAI BABA IS NOT ONE

MAIN YAHA KISI KI FEELING KO HURT NAHI KAR RAHA BUT ITS WRONG BECAUSE I KNOW SATYA SAIBABA EK MAHANSAINT HAI BUT UNKI TULNA SAIBABA SE NAHI KI JASAKTI SATYA SAI BABA EK GURU HAI PUR SAIBABA HAMARE SADGURU HAI WAISE TOH HAR INSAAN MEIN BABA KA VAAS HAI KOI BHI UNSE BHIN NAHI HAI PUR SADGURU TOH EK HI HOTA HAI AGAR MERE KEHNE SE KISIKO HURT HUYA TOH MAIN USKE LIYE SHAMA CHAHTA HOON

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: sai70 on October 29, 2008, 09:51:10 AM
OMSAIRAM,
Our SAIMA is SAMARDHA SADGURU.Baba is DIAMOND. He is the god of all,there is NO discrimination of rich ,poor ,officer or labourer in his DARBAR. I dont know if RAM AND KRISHNA EXISTED  BUT SAI IS THERE IN EVERY HEART WHO REALLY SURRENDER AND BELEIVE HIM. He is an AVADHUTA.
I would recommend to read SAI LEELAMRUTHAM ,WRITTEN BY Sri Ekkirala Bhardwajaji to know more about his leelas and his life.He is our Mother ,Father and Guide. He has shown us the spiritual path with very simple techniques.
I DONT WANT TO CRITICISE ANY BODY .BABA PLEASE BLESS  ALL OF US  WITH THE RIGHT PATH .
NO ENTERING INTO DISCUSSION FOR THIS CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC. BABA !!!!!!MY BELOVED I BOW AT YOUR HOLY FEET TO SHOW US THE RIGHT PATH AND GIVE US SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE.
I apologise if there is anything you people feel wrong in my post.I just came out with my views.
BABA BLESS US ALL.  :)


Title: Re: Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One and the Same
Post by: publickakaptan on October 30, 2008, 12:17:45 AM
Be clear about one thing: if you believe in a particular god or guru, believe with all your might. Do not bother about whether he has power or not. Your faith has the power.You do not need an enlightened master to liberate you. All you need is absolute trust. A stone can liberate you.