Asking Lord for Devotion

[dattaswami]

Asking Lord for Devotion


Some people pray God to grant them with eternal devotion. You think that such people are greatest devotees. But I say that they are the cleverest. If the devotion is eternal, the subsequent protection from all the problems is inevitable. They show the climax of intelligence in asking such boon. They like to have the Railway engine which is linked with the whole train. In this boon, I am unable to understand one keen point. The devotion, development and maintenance of the devotion are responsibilities of the devotee only. God can never interfere in that. Will a girl ask a boy “Make me to love you”? It means that the love does not exist. Will the girl say “See that my love on you continues without failure”? It means her love is not real and fears in its failure.

A real lover loves God spontaneously and retains it under any circumstances. The love should come from the side of the devotee. God cannot give the devotion so that a soul loves Him. Then it looks like a politician bringing public by paying them to clap during his lecture! God will not put His finger in devotion. Instead, God opposes your devotion to see its strength. God gives knowledge which is the generator of devotion like the fertilizer for the sprout from seed. The knowledge also acts as pesticide to kill the bacteria and worms which are the doubts. But the knowledge given by God is also in the form of general concept only. Satguru will speak about the importance and identification of the human incarnation, but will never say that He is the human incarnation. Devotion is based on personification. Krishna can say that one should find out the real form of God to worship. But He cannot say that He is the real form of the God and that He should be worshipped.

[vishwanath69]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami sir,

I really cannot understand why it is wrong to thank Sai for his grace and pray to him that we as common mortals do not go astray and remain in the shelter of his benevolent love, faith and the devotion expressed by us.
I am an ignoramus..I just trust that Sai is there and we his children may falter, stutter,stumble and we pray to him that such incidents reduce in frequency until we think of no one else apart from him.
Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

Thank you for your wise words sir, please forgive this devotee.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

[dattaswami]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami sir,

I really cannot understand why it is wrong to thank Sai for his grace and pray to him that we as common mortals do not go astray and remain in the shelter of his benevolent love, faith and the devotion expressed by us.
I am an ignoramus..I just trust that Sai is there and we his children may falter, stutter,stumble and we pray to him that such incidents reduce in frequency until we think of no one else apart from him.
Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

Thank you for your wise words sir, please forgive this devotee.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

Never ask God for giving devotion, because it is the highest insult


Never ask God for giving devotion, - because it is the highest insult,
It means that you are not having – real spontaneous devotion already.
If the girl asks the boy to put efforts to – create love on him in her,
What does it mean? It means – that the girl is unable to love him
In spite of hectic efforts from her side, – since she hates him always,
But she wants to love him and marry – to get rich life from his wealth,
Therefore, when you ask God for – devotion, it means that you are not
Loving God spontaneously as – you love your family members here.

But you want to love God – so that you can be loved by God in return
To attain the best fruits, - hence you are praying God to give you
The devotion to Him, if God grants –devotion to you as per your prayer,
Then such granted love by God – is not natural but artificial only.
A politician gets masses for his – speech by paying money to public,
The attendance of masses is not the – real interest of public in him.
The story of real love is quite – opposite to this, the girl loves the boy,
The boy refuses her love and – she is running after him even insulted.
Such love is true, love should be – from your side and not granted from
The other side, God doesn’t like – such artificial devotion or love to Him.

He likes true devotion only, - when you run after Him, He insults you,
But still you are after Him only, - that is the true devotion liked by Him.

[vishwanath69]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami ji,

Thank You sir.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

[vishwanath69]

Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

[dattaswami]

Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

Should we not ask god for help?

If you are an ordinary person you should follow the rules of your deeds and nature. If you are a devotee, even then, you should not ask God for help. Your devotion must not aspire any result. You are asking God for help means that you want God to violate his own natural rules. The impression of millions of angles and sages is disturbed if God violates his own rules. That will give a poor impression on God. You are putting God to inconvenience by forcing him to use his supernatural power. Whether you are a devotee or not, you must always try to solve your problems by putting your best effort.

If you fail, even then, do not ask God to help you. Then, you think that it is your fate and worship God as usual. Arjuna was fighting with his grandfather, Bhishma. Arjuna was not putting up his best effort to kill Bhishma. He was having sympathy to Bhishma, who has brought up Arjuna. Noting this, Krishna (Jesus) took His Sudarshana chakra and ran to kill Bhishma. That means the Lord tried to solve the problem of Arjuna through His divine power. Arjuna did not agree to this and forced Krishna to stop, because Arjuna knew about his inadequate effort. But when Sindhava was to be killed, Arjuna tried his best, because Arjuna took an oath to kill Sindhava before sunset and otherwise he promised that he would enter the fire.

Since the sunset took place apparently due to the Maya of Krishna, Arjuna stopped fighting and wanted to enter the fire. He was just going to jump into the fire but he never asked for help. He thought that was his fate. Therefore, the Lord helped him secretly. Therefore, if you put your best effort, still fail because it is beyond your limits, if you happen to be a real devotee and do not ask for the help from God, then you will be helped by the super power secretly. The secrecy is due to preservation of the sacredness of his administration in the eyes of others.
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[vishwanath69]

OM SAI RAM

You never answered the relegation of your agreement.Why don't you address this issue at all?

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

[vishwanath69]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami sir,

I really cannot understand why it is wrong to thank Sai for his grace and pray to him that we as common mortals do not go astray and remain in the shelter of his benevolent love, faith and the devotion expressed by us.
I am an ignoramus..I just trust that Sai is there and we his children may falter, stutter,stumble and we pray to him that such incidents reduce in frequency until we think of no one else apart from him.
Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

Thank you for your wise words sir, please forgive this devotee.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

Never ask God for giving devotion, because it is the highest insult


Never ask God for giving devotion, - because it is the highest insult,
It means that you are not having – real spontaneous devotion already.
If the girl asks the boy to put efforts to – create love on him in her,
What does it mean? It means – that the girl is unable to love him
In spite of hectic efforts from her side, – since she hates him always,
But she wants to love him and marry – to get rich life from his wealth,
Therefore, when you ask God for – devotion, it means that you are not
Loving God spontaneously as – you love your family members here.

But you want to love God – so that you can be loved by God in return
To attain the best fruits, - hence you are praying God to give you
The devotion to Him, if God grants –devotion to you as per your prayer,
Then such granted love by God – is not natural but artificial only.
A politician gets masses for his – speech by paying money to public,
The attendance of masses is not the – real interest of public in him.
The story of real love is quite – opposite to this, the girl loves the boy,
The boy refuses her love and – she is running after him even insulted.
Such love is true, love should be – from your side and not granted from
The other side, God doesn’t like – such artificial devotion or love to Him.

He likes true devotion only, - when you run after Him, He insults you,
But still you are after Him only, - that is the true devotion liked by Him.

[dattaswami]

Respected Dattaswami sir,

I really cannot understand why it is wrong to thank Sai for his grace and pray to him that we as common mortals do not go astray and remain in the shelter of his benevolent love, faith and the devotion expressed by us.
I am an ignoramus..I just trust that Sai is there and we his children may falter, stutter,stumble and we pray to him that such incidents reduce in frequency until we think of no one else apart from him.
Thank you for relegating on your word regarding the posting of messages in the philosophy section.I am no one to dictate how one prays to our Master.I shall not do so.Your conscience knows your agreement and its relegation.

God will not mistake the pure soul asking for the basic needs of the life

When the child cries for the milk, the mother does not mistake the child for its desire for the milk because the love should be without desire.  The same mother (if wise) will mistake her grown up daughter asking for her ornaments because ornaments are not the basic needs like the milk.  The wise mother will say that she will give the ornaments after her death.  But the same mother will not say that the milk in her breast will be given to the child after her death because the dead body cannot give the milk and moreover the child cannot wait for the milk for a long time.  Similarly, God will not mistake the pure soul asking for the basic needs of the life especially when the soul is in the divine service.

 For mother the cry of the child is needed because the mother is not always omniscient like God.  But God is omniscient and knows the basic requirement of the devoted soul and will give the basic needs even without the cry. Yet, the mother experiences the love in giving the milk to a crying child.  Similarly, the God experiences love when you cry for the basic needs to be granted by God.  There is no necessity for cry in the case of God but after all the cry gives the experience of love.  Moreover, the soul should not think that God would grant the basic needs like the salary given by the employer to his service.  In the case of God, the service to God itself is the salary and there cannot be salary for taking the salary!  

Nivrutti (Spiritual field) is quite opposite to Pravrutti (Materialistic field).  When the soul is pure and deserves a favor, God desires the devotee to ask Him like an innocent child to enjoy the love.  God takes pleasure in fulfilling the desire when the child asks for it.  A crying child for milk is not equal to a crying prostitute to snatch away your property, since property is not a basic need.  A fool does not distinguish the basic needs and property. A foolish mother will give away her ornaments to her daughter like the milk from her breast and will end in trouble because the son-in-law will force the daughter to kick out her mother since the ornaments were already received.   When the devotee is in the service of the divine mission, to pray God for basic needs is not wrong because the basic needs are essential to maintain the body and family.

 Such request is not the extra worldly desire and it is a part of the divine mission only.  Jesus asked God to favor Him on several occasions but each favor was a part of the divine mission only.  By begging the God for food, the inherent traces of ego induced through Advaita Philosophy will also disappear.


 God also tastes the sweet love in such prayer.

[vishwanath69]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami,

May Sai bless you with his divine grace.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

[dattaswami]

OM SAI RAM

Respected Dattaswami,

May Sai bless you with his divine grace.

Vishwanath
Servant of Baba

Love to God is the supreme

The mother serves her child by sacrificing lot of work like giving bath, dressing etc., for years together continuously. The father serves the child by sacrificing the fruit of all his hard work to the child. It is a clear practical point that the proof of the real love is only service. If you serve your family you love your family. If you serve the entire world you love the creation. If you serve the creator, you love the creator. It is a very simple point.