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Offline abhinav

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WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
« on: August 07, 2007, 06:28:11 AM »
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  • DEAR SAI BANHDU,

    OM SAI RAM.


    MAI BHI BABA KA EK DEVOTEE HUN. MUJHE BABA KI SHAKTI PAR KISI BHI PRAKAAR KA SHAK NAHI HAI.

    MAI BHI YE DIL SE MANTA HUN KI BABA SAKSHAT PAR-BRAM KA AVTAAR THE.

    LEKIN PHIR BHI EK QUESTION MUJHE AKSAR PARESHAN KARTA HAI-

    "BABA KA APNI SAMAST INDRIO PAR POORN ADHIKAR THA. BABA BHOJAN BHI SWAD SE NAHI KHATE TEH , BALKI SABHI PRAKAAR KA BHOJAN MIX KARKE KHATE THE. KYOKI BABA NE APNI INDRIYO KO JEET LIYA THA. ISS LIYE SHAREER KA ARAM YA SWAAD UNHE PRESHAN NAHI KARTA THA."

    "JABKI DUSRI TARAF BABA CHILAM PIYA KARTE THE? JO POORI TARHA SE EK INDRIYE SUKH HAI AISA KYU?"

    MAI AAP SABHI DEVOTEES SE HAATH JOD KAR MAAFI CHAHTA HUN, AUR YE CLEAR KARNA CHAHTA HUN KI MERA MAKSAD BABA KI SHAKTIYO KO CHALLANGE KARNA HARGIJ NAHI HAI. BUT ISS SWAL KA JAWAB MUJHE KABHI MIL NAHI SAKA. ISS LIYE MAI AAP SABKE SATH ISSE SHARE KARNA CHAHTA HUN. TAAKI AAP LOGO SE MUJHE ISKA ANSWER MIL SAKE.

    OM SAI RAM.
    मी पापी-पतित धीमंद । 
    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
    मुझसा कोई पापी तेरे दर पे ना आया होगा।
    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
    ॐ साई राम          اوم ساي رام          ਓਮ ਸਾਈ ਰਾਮ          OM SAI RAM          ॐ साई राम          اوم ساي رام          ਓਮ ਸਾਈ ਰਾਮ          OM SAI RAM          ॐ साई राम          اوم ساي رام          ਓਮ ਸਾਈ ਰਾਮ          OM SAI RAM          ॐ साई राम          اوم ساي رام          ਓਮ ਸਾਈ ਰਾਮ          OM SAI RAM

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 08:39:11 AM »
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  • Dear Abhinav Ji,

    A lot of activities which baba used to do or instructions which he gave to his devotees must be looked at from the social conditions prevaling at that time. Smoking Chilm or Hooka was a community activity in a village where the elderly people would gather and smoke Hooka together and discuss issues of interest. The village elders would smoke hooka not as an addiction but as a community activity. It was probably not considered as a bad habit at the village level and would be done in a controlled manner.  It would be wrong on modern day people to  interpret this activity as a support to cigeratte smoking.

    Another example which can be given is that Baba had blessed many of his devotees with multiple number of children (7 or 8 in some cases). Most of our grandparents, great grand parents would belong to families with multiple brothers or sisters. The concept of family planning was not in existence at that time and deaths at child birth were common due to lack of medical facilities.  Therefore the blessings of baba were more in line with social conditions existant at that time. This cannot be literally interpreted in modern day context.

    Baba always gives different people instructions and experiences in line with their needs.

    OM SAI RAM

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 09:11:44 AM »
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  • Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

    Dear Ak_Saiji Sairam
    Your reply is most satisfying. You have answered a question which has been in mind for a long time. I was sure that there must be some good reason, but was not able to arrive at the same. Thanks
    Suresh

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 11:42:29 PM »
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  • Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah.................

    Unsatisfactory answer.Need a better meaningful and logical answer.

    Sai Please answer this.

    Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah.................

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 01:01:33 AM »
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  • Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

    Dear Postingji Sairam

    Nice to see you back in action.

    It has been a long time question in mind. In fact, it is really not possible to fathom  all the actions of our Lord Sai. Most of the time we have to take recourse to our little human intelligence and since man is inquisitive by nature, it is necessary his questions are satisfied to make him restful. And our Sacred SSC expounds blind faith.

    Ak_Saiji's answer is definitely one angle to all this. Or else how could baba cry like a normal human being when Megha died. How could he display the emotions like a normal being.

    So definitely this is one angle.

    Sairam

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #5 on: August 08, 2007, 02:54:03 AM »
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  • Baba smoking pipe is a sacrilege only when you stay disconnected from Soul.

    The universe is designed through evolution of consciousness from worms to Human beings.

    We are sent to this world with consciousness to realize our divinity and to participate in expansion of love but after childhood we are conditioned by the society to see ourselves as limited beings.

    Whether one is connected or disconnected God is always within every single atom in us, tree, Air, water, rocks and in everything that is visible and invisible.
    God is the sustainer of this universe, everything you do, you do it in the domain of God.

    Every chillim smoked by humans is done in the domain of God. God is not to be thought as person or force watching us from above. We are within him and whatever we do by our free will good or bad are done only in his domain. God is intelligence that sustains this world without judging anyone.

    When God incarnates he chooses to pick some human traits. His choices are divine will and can remain beyond the grasp of human mind.

    When Mrs.Saptenkar saw Baba in dream, he lifted his Kafni and urinated in front of her. How can a celibate Sanyasi do it front of woman? Does it not insult her modesty? The fact is God (Sai) is the intelligence behind the working of her uterus and he's clearing out his system (falsely assumed by us as our system) so that there's life generated through Mrs.Saptenkar.

    Sai's wants to identify himself with everything and everyone which alone is truth. God (Sai) is the wirepuller of this universe.

    We should thank Sai for living his life like one among us and not one above us. Realizing divinity inside looks an attainable target and not a distant dream, which was his mission!






    Past and Future exist in the Mind. Present is the Only Reality. Mind loves habitual waiting to deny the present. Meditation helps one merge with Nature. One no longer feels Separate from the Whole. It is easy to live with the whole than against it.
    Regular Meditation suppresses unwanted thoughts and strengthens the Mind. A less noisy mind is so near to God.

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 05:38:53 AM »
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  • Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah.............

    Well Said Saidasanji.

    Why don't u call me so that we can discuss in detail.

    Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah.............

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    Re: WHY BABA USED TO SMOKE??????????
    « Reply #7 on: August 11, 2007, 06:51:31 PM »
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  • Om Jai Sri Sai Ram Ji..

    Dear Abhinav ji,

    Thanks so much for posting this topic. This topic had been trpubling me for a while now.

    I am so happy to see such wonderful answers..we really have gems in this forum. May Baba bless us all with good thoughts and wisdom.
    I must have done some good deeds in my life to read such good things and be a part of this beautiful Sai family

    I love u all

    God bless everyone
    Gaurav

     


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