Why Love hurts??!!

[Kavitaparna]

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............

Koun?? Hum Sab?? Ya Main?  What is the difference between me,u and all people.We are all same and One.We are children of Sai and we are one.If I hurt u then I hurt myself.This message was for whole forum members just not for u.Please don't take it personally.If u are hurt then I am also hurt.I m no different from U.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.

Well said! You can't expect your lover to love you back. (However one-sided love only hurts and remains uncomplete).Don't call one-sided love as love,its just desire and not love.If we had truely loved her or him na then by hook or crook we would have got him or her.Sai ke Baache Hai,nothing is impossible for us.First have faith in ur self.U know why are we doing one-sided,just because we don't have faith on urself.God help those who help themselves.Have Faith in Urself and don't think inferior to none.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.

I don't think so. Obviously saccha love exists in this world. Physical attraction may not be real love...but love that is totally committed to the welfare of the other is true love. True love never dies in contrary to "false" love...Man and woman love is not true love until he sees God in her and she see God in him.Both serve each other as they are serving God.They always see Good in each other and help each other to improves themselves.That is true love.If he or she loves  because of his or her looks,position and material aspects then that is not true love.But now in this world u will rarely find true love but all is attachment.Saab materialistic hogaye hai.We will feel bad and we will not accept this statement but with little introspection u will find it true.But to love others u should love urself first then only u can love others selflessly.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.

Is forum mein jitne bhi log apna pyaar na milne ki wajeh se aaye hai, wo sai baba par ilzaam nahi laga rahe ki "baba you did so with me..." They are just praying to sai for his support, for forgiveness if they have done any mistakes...Ya sai will support them if there intentions are neat and clean...if their love is true.One sided love is just desire not love.If we love ourself then we will get support from Sai.But first we need to love ourselves .We are extension of  Sai.Pray Sai with total and surrender that your faith on urself increase.

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.

Agar sai baba bhi aisa chahte, to is duniya mein pyaar aur attraction naam ki koi cheez hoti hi nahi. Jo hota hai sai baba ki marzi se hota hai, so we let him to regulate this world. Main to kahunga, ki jisse bhi pyaar karo, sirf saccha pyaar karo.

Who does Saacha Pyaar Now a days?No even one single person.Not even the mother,father,son,brother,sister wife or lover.Every one is loving other just to get it back.Bina favour ke kaam nahi chalta hai aaj kaal.Without giving we will not get anything.We pray Sai because we want something from Him.We don't love Him selflessly.So Were is love inside this praying.I am praying so Sai u do for me this.This is True Love or Saacha Pyaar?Saacha Pyaar does not want anything in return.It is Selfless.It just gives......

Om Sai Ram
-karan-

OM SRI SAI RAM

Pravin Bhai, Sai Ram

Very well said.

But, it takes a long way for many to understand, in the right sense, what you mean.  For, each and every word of that you have posted is filled with spiritualism and thus you have indicated in true meaning and the exact purpose of the birth of the very word "LOVE".

Thanks a lot for adding to our divine forum the meaning and purpose of LOVE so beautifully.

Baba bless the true love always.
Baba bless us all

Jai Sai Ram

[saidasan]

Love is a feeling of continuous expansion of Joy. Not all relationships are meant to be the same, some things can be shared with siblings, something with parents, many things with friends and everything with your Spouse.

Only True Yogis can love everyone alike, householders should never cease the practise of loving fellow brothers and sisters irrespective of your tendency.

Physical love is a will of God. It’s a shame to condemn it as despicable and unreal. Physical love is the first step that nurtures eternal love between Husband and a wife. It is Gods gift to men and women to taste a few moments of Egoless bliss. Many mistake its purpose solely for reproduction. A shiva Linga is nothing but a communion of Shiva and Shakti.

Classifying Love and attempting for the impossible Yogic state of love – The world is my home, every one is my Family is not recommended for householders.

When the Soul is ripe you will be ready to love everyone alike until then Enjoy Love, give Love without worrying too much about the quality and Quantity. If you love someone more and another less, don’t worry about it, impartially (without attachment and analysis) observe your own actions. Things will change for good because Mind doesn’t like to be observed and will invariably lose its battle to your Soul which is God.
Spend every moment of youy life in Love without worrying much about idealistic love. Love is Joy. A joyful heart doesn't make mistakes and is close to God.

[MANAV_NEHA]

PLZ BABA HELP TO REAL LOVERS OM SAI RAMOM SAI RAMOM SAI RAMOM SAI RAMOM SAI RAMSABKA MALIK EK

[Pearl India]

om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram

[Pearl India]

om sai ram

wow deletin just any post in this forum is not allowd...............

delete wht u dnt like

mr eraser

om sai ram

[Shreesri]

Shree Sai

Pranam Baba ji!

I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

A small passage from Sai Satchrita:

Sai Baba required no special place, nor any special time for giving instructions. Whenever any occasion demanded, He gave them freely. Once it so happened that a Bhakta of Baba, reviled another behind his back, before other people. On leaving aside merits, he dwelt on the faults of his brother, and spoke so sarcastically, that the hearers were disgusted. Generally, we see that people have a tendency to scandalize others, un-necessarily; and this brings on hatred and ill-will. Saints see scandal, in another light. They say that there are various ways of cleansing or removing dirt, viz. by means of earth, water and soap etc., but a scandal-monger has got a way of his own. He removes the dirt (faults) of others by his tongue; so in a way of obliges the person, whom he reviles and for this he is to be thanked. Sai Baba had his own method of correcting the scandal-monger. He knew by his omniscience what the slanderer had done and when He met him at noon near the Lendi, Baba pointed out to him a pig that was eating filth near the fence and said to him - "Behold how, with what relish it is gorging dung. Your conduct is similar. You go on reviling your own brethren to your heart's content. After performing many deeds of merit, you are born a man, and if you act like this, will Shirdi help you in any way?" Needless to say, that the Bhakta took the lesson to his heart, and went away.

Shree Sai

[tana]

Om Sai Ram~~~



I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

Shreesai ji,
sairam...

Well said................



Jai Sai Ram~~~

[Kavitaparna]

Om Sai Ram~~~



I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

Shreesai ji,
sairam...

Well said................



Jai Sai Ram~~~

Shreesri ji, Sai Ram

A hearty welcome to this Dwarakamai.

I sincerely thank you for expressing you opinion frankly.

I hope all the members will take the contents of your post in right spirit and make this forum much more a precious one.

Baba bless U always

JAI SAI NATH

[sai_bless_all]

With all due respect to everyone,

I don't see the reason why the topic of "... love marriage" should be objectionable to anybody in this forum. Whoever said only certain problems are meant to be taken up to God? People go to God with all kinds of problems. There is nothing unusual in these girls prayers. The kind of prayers offered to God are different at different ages/stages in a person's life. In a normal life, between 5-12, you ask for toys and chocolates maybe, somewhere around 18-30, you ask for love/companionship, a career, offspring etc., later on you ask for the welfare of your spouse and kids, and life goes on.....there are difficulties and obstacles we face at every phase of life and we have always been taught to resort to the Almighty with any and all kinds of problems that we encounter in this journey of life. Prayer gives us strength to bear the agony of anything that is emotionally taunting or torturing us. In this case, all these girls facing the exact same problem, found each other through this forum and are comforting and helping each other go through this difficult period in their life. It is difficult for them, though it might not seem to be a big deal to many. Attraction, Infatuation, and falling in Love are experienced by everyone when they are young. Why is it considered wrong? It is meant to be that way. One cannot belittle anyone's problems in life. And yes, certain lessons in life are only meant to be learnt through experience.....You are expected to think like a 10 year old at 10, 25 year old at 25 and 50 year old at 50. It is not only futile but also unnecessary for a 50/25 year old to explain anything about life to a 10 year old. You definitely don't want to be robbed of your childhood innocence or your youthful exuberance by being forced to understand life without getting a chance to experience it.

Om Sai Sri Sai

Priya

[sureshsarat]

Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Dear All Sairam

I am blessed that I came to this mandir. I posted my prayers here and so many of the Sai Bandhus prayed for me and still doing for others too.

It greatly pains now when I see that some of us are not maintaining the decorum and respect the feelings of each other.

Pravin bhai, you are absolutely right about physical love, attachment etc. But is it really possible for us to be detached from the body ? I feel we are all still at the lowest rung of spirituality. And that is not a bad qualification. It is but natural if we fall in love, if we love somebody for their external traits and personality, it is absolutely OK if we are involved with Physical Love. It is acceptable by our Lord Sai too. Or else why would he wail and cry when the blessed Megha died ? Where was the need for him to emote as normal human being ? Lord Sai is the most unique of the saints. He satisfied the beings basic needs so that they can latter on appreciate his actual preachings. He acted as the humans so that we can understand him better. This is most evident from what he said "I give what they so that they will ask what I want to give".



All the humans are intelligent enough to realise that love and hate are two sides of the same coin. All realise that it is just a Maya. Therefore they come out of shock, loss etc.

How can one survive without attachment ? Did we not know or do we not know that death will do us apart when we married or get married ? Even our elders knew this. This world will not exist without some of these attachments. We are physically attached to our parents, siblings, friends, spouses and children. We even have pets to which we attach great importance. We cry/laugh along with them. This is a nature and the world's way. Else we will be zombies.

Only thing to remember : Lets not get carried away with these attachments to a point where it might upset us or others. Thats I mentioned Love does not hurt. IT SHOULD NOT HURT.

Similarly, let us try not to get personal when we want to make a point.
Postingji is at an higher level of thinking and practise. It might not suit others. It does not mean we have to get upset about it. We are all a big family. Please understand that it is our Rinanubandha which has brought us together. (it is mentioned in the Sri Sai Satcharitra). Let's not kick away the gift our Lord Sai, which has brought us all together.

If our posts are deleted by the Moderator, we should ask the moderator for the reason. We should try to understand or convince the moderator about our convictions. And still if it does not seem satisfactory, lets just forget it and pray to Our Lord to guide us. He is the supreme and most understanding.

Sairam

[sureshsarat]

Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

I thank Shreesriji for posting a beautiful extract from the SSS. I would like to add another extract which I feel is very much in place:

Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other
persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another
occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other
devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, "Oh mother, be more considerate and
moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves". At this Baba got up at
once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became
red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of
one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The
other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka
which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the
people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and
immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly.
Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what
to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His
Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in
her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention,
but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned
effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see.
Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From
this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody
but allow him to serve Baba as the chooses, as He was capable to gauge the merits and
worth of the service rendered unto Him.

So baba alone is most capable to assess us.
Sairam

[posting]

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

So much love and blessings from my brothers and sisters.I m thankful to you all.

No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

BABA bless all.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

[tana]

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

So much love and blessings from my brothers and sisters.I m thankful to you all.

No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

BABA bless all.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

Om Sai Ram~~~

Pravin bhai....

Gr8...No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

Sai Bless u ...

Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~

Jai Sai Ram~~~

[posting]

better check with moderator who deleted the mails instead of pointing finger to wrong person.

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om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram

[Pearl India]

better check with moderator who deleted the mails instead of pointing finger to wrong person.

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om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram

wud like to appologise to posting ji for this msg......

it ws in a fit of angr tht ths ws posted......
i ws arrognt at this........

nd i request th moderator to kindly let me knw th reason of my post being deleted nd not shreya s........

according to me i had been very careful in draftin it.........

i hd given my opinion my views nd my explanations
n nthin more thn tht.........

i respect th spiritual progress of all th ppl here......
but we r still to move on th path ..........
whch u hv already crossed
nd baba ofcrs hs his own ways to promote n teach things to each one of us..........
i mean u wud hv also crossed our stage.........

i wanted guidnce from posting ji on certain things mentioned in th post........we r always eagr to knw wht s correct n wht s not............

we knw things are transient........
none is gonna b wd us in th end....

i dnt knw if n e one s gonna undrstnd this as well........

nd plz if u havnt read it dnt call thm abusive......

posting ji if u hv read tht post frm me plz lemme knw....
i always wanna knw n learn thing

i hv requested th moderators to send me tht post.........

let it b an opn n democrtic affr ......

om sai ram....