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Title: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiKaKaran on September 06, 2007, 01:06:23 AM

Hi Sai Devotees,

Aakhri kuch dino mein maine mandir mein pada ki bahut log Pyaar na milne ki wajeh se ya phir pyaar mein dokha milne ki wajeh se sai baba ki sharan mein aaye hain...in sab ko pyaar karne ki sazaa kyon mil rahi hai? Kya sacch mein pyaar itna bedard hai? Baba un logon ki madat kyon nahi karte jinka pyaar saccha hai..? Agar 100 Log pyaar karte hai to unme se 95 Logon ki aankhon mein kuch dino ke baad aansun hote hain...aisa kyon baba?

Main jab bhi aisi posts padta hun ki kisi ko kisi ka pyaar nahi mila to dil dukhta hai...mann mein kai sawal aate hain...

Saccha Pyaar karne waalo ka dil sone ka hota hai, aur sone ke dilon mein bhagwan rehte hai.....phir bhagwan kyon nahi support kar rahe love ko?

Pyaar ke bina zindagi bahut adhuri hai, baba meri aapse winti hai ki sab sacche pyaar karne waalo ko milwa do...aur hum sab ko shakti bhi do, ki hum agar kisi se pyaar kare, to phir saccha kare...

Om Sai Ram!
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: sureshsarat on September 06, 2007, 03:26:05 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Love never hurts ! Only possessiveness hurts ! Love stemming out of possessiveness (also called as attachment, infatuation, selfishness) hurts

Love is just a state.
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiRangdaughter on September 06, 2007, 03:41:53 AM
JAY SAI RAM,,

Dear Sai Ka Karanji,,

Its the only truth tht Love never hurts....

Aur rahi Sache pyaar ki baat ..Pariksha to hamesha sache pyar ki hi hoti hai....

U know for such love,, Even Godess Parvati Ma had done TAAP, for more than 64 crore years ,, and to get such love to be convert into marriage Rukmaniji,, HAD STRUGGLE MORE THAN ANY OF US..

So u can get the idea tht ,,true love,, always takes PARIKSHA,,whether he or she is just a human being or any godess...

So if u find anyone with tears ,,and fallen in the true love,,its not his or her end of the life,, its just a process to get his/her true love forever...

Dont worry,, it takes more time,,like,, " bhagwan ke yahan der hain ..par aandher nahi"

JAY SAI NATH

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: nimmi_sai on September 06, 2007, 04:35:55 AM
karan ji ,
aap ne baba se bahut acha quest pucha hai ......merey point view se ager aap poochey ager do log appas main kise reason se nahi mil paaye to its not ki pyaar khatam ho jaata hai  if it is true love ,it ll never hurt ....
love is something you cant see or touch unless u know its there ......
i pray ki ham aise logo se miley jinka pyaar sacha ho ....kai baar baba hamain kise se ise liye alagh ker detey hai taanki ham jaan sakey wat is true love ????
kise ne bahut acha kaha hai .....................................
      “Watching you walk out of my life does not make me bitter or cynical about love. But rather makes me realize that if I wanted so much to be with the wrong person how beautiful it will be when the right one comes along.”
i just pray ki jinko bhi ham pyaar kerey ya jo bhi hamain pyaar kerey ...unka pyaar sacha hoo ..................or wo kabhi bhi ham se alagh na ho ...ameennnnn
regards
Nimmi
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: tana on September 06, 2007, 05:02:30 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Love never hurts ! Only possessiveness hurts ! Love stemming out of possessiveness (also called as attachment, infatuation, selfishness) hurts

Love is just a state.

Om Sai Ram~~~

Maybe the question to ask is...'Should love hurt?'.
I think the answer is NO....
If you really truly love someone, then why should that 'hurt' you, surely it is better that you are with a lover who makes you feel happy, relaxed, good about yourself etc. If you are 'hurting', then maybe you are with the wrong person or you need to 'change' the way you look at things? Obviously it hurts to lose someone you love, but hurt does not form the basis of a positive, loving relationship.


Jai Sai Ram~~~
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiKaKaran on September 06, 2007, 08:44:05 AM
...I believe you all that true love can never hurt....I just only wanted to find out, why all the lovers suffering here in this forum. The y all are praying to sai baba for their lover to come back in their life....isn't that sweet?

May Baba bless you all...

And Nimmi ji,

“Watching you walk out of my life does not make me bitter or cynical about love. But rather makes me realize that if I wanted so much to be with the wrong person how beautiful it will be when the right one comes along.”

Aapki ye line dil ko choo gai !!!!! Such a beautiful words. I will write it down. Thanks.

Om Sai Ram
- karan -
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: nimmi_sai on September 06, 2007, 11:14:49 AM
karan ji
thanxxxx so much for the appreciation .....Please keep me  in your prayers as i really need it...May God guide and protect you and your loved ones always.
 i wish you all the very best always. God Bless
regards
nimmi
sai ram

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 07, 2007, 02:09:11 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............Weak people ka kaam nahi hai pyaar karna.Jis ke Pass Strong Heart hai, he or she can only love.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.If two people are truely in love then they will stick to each other hook or crook.False lovers get separted.Saab Attachment ka khel hai ye saacha nakli pyaar.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.

Jism Ka Sambandh Saacha Pyaar Nahi Hota.This animal can do.

Pyaar karne ka natak kaarna easy hai per nibhana difficult.People do love marriage and after that they divorce.Kyu?Because they were true lovers.Isn't it?

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.

Do Amar or Eternal Love and that can only be done with GOD Sai  not with bodywala lover.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiRangdaughter on September 07, 2007, 03:04:04 AM
Om sai Ram,,

Dear posting,,

I think ,, U had hurt a lottttttttttttttttttttttttttt in ur past.. tht u dnt belive in love...

especially ur this words,,


Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

what do u mean by this dear,, not to love human,, just love GOD???? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

God himself,, tell us to love everyone..anyways.. We will surely pray for U...

JAY SAI NATH


Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............Weak people ka kaam nahi hai pyaar karna.Jis ke Pass Strong Heart hai, he or she can only love.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.If two people are truely in love then they will stick to each other hook or crook.False lovers get separted.Saab Attachment ka khel hai ye saacha nakli pyaar.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.

Jism Ka Sambandh Saacha Pyaar Nahi Hota.This animal can do.

Pyaar karne ka natak kaarna easy hai per nibhana difficult.People do love marriage and after that they divorce.Kyu?Because they were true lovers.Isn't it?

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.

Do Amar or Eternal Love and that can only be done with GOD Sai  not with bodywala lover.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: tana on September 07, 2007, 03:54:10 AM
Om Sai Ram~~~

Very True Pravin bhai....

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale......

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.



Do Amar or Eternal Love and that can only be done with GOD Sai  not with bodywala lover.



BABA kya kya kare gae ????????????

God is love, so love is a reflection of God. Heavenly father will never hurt someone...

 "Infatuation" hurts because we must learn our lessons in life, we must understand the difference and stop falling for it. Learn to love the Lord first, yourself second, and the Lord shall provide you with real love....


Jai Sai Ram~~~
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiKaKaran on September 07, 2007, 04:15:41 AM
Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............
Koun?? Hum Sab?? Ya Main?  ???

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.
Well said! You can't expect your lover to love you back. (However one-sided love only hurts and remains uncomplete)

There is nothing called Sacha Love.
I don't think so. Obviously saccha love exists in this world. Physical attraction may not be real love...but love that is totally committed to the welfare of the other is true love. True love never dies in contrary to "false" love...

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.
Is forum mein jitne bhi log apna pyaar na milne ki wajeh se aaye hai, wo sai baba par ilzaam nahi laga rahe ki "baba you did so with me..." They are just praying to sai for his support, for forgiveness if they have done any mistakes...Ya sai will support them if there intentions are neat and clean...if their love is true

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.
Agar sai baba bhi aisa chahte, to is duniya mein pyaar aur attraction naam ki koi cheez hoti hi nahi. Jo hota hai sai baba ki marzi se hota hai, so we let him to regulate this world. Main to kahunga, ki jisse bhi pyaar karo, sirf saccha pyaar karo

Om Sai Ram
-karan-
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 07, 2007, 04:33:47 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah....................

No one can hurt me.I can hurt myself......... :D

Ladki Ladke wala love alag aur humanity wala love alag hai.Ladki Ladke wala love selfish aur humanity wala love selfless.

Jaha Selfishness waha Bhagwan Kaha.

Ladki Ladke wala love is passion but love for humanity is compassion.

So Do U love Ur Neighbour as Thyself ??????

Baba Bless All.

=======================================


Om sai Ram,,

Dear posting,,

I think ,, U had hurt a lottttttttttttttttttttttttttt in ur past.. tht u dnt belive in love...

especially ur this words,,


Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

what do u mean by this dear,, not to love human,, just love GOD???? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

God himself,, tell us to love everyone..anyways.. We will surely pray for U...

JAY SAI NATH


Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............Weak people ka kaam nahi hai pyaar karna.Jis ke Pass Strong Heart hai, he or she can only love.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.If two people are truely in love then they will stick to each other hook or crook.False lovers get separted.Saab Attachment ka khel hai ye saacha nakli pyaar.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.

Jism Ka Sambandh Saacha Pyaar Nahi Hota.This animal can do.

Pyaar karne ka natak kaarna easy hai per nibhana difficult.People do love marriage and after that they divorce.Kyu?Because they were true lovers.Isn't it?

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.

Do Amar or Eternal Love and that can only be done with GOD Sai  not with bodywala lover.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiRangdaughter on September 07, 2007, 05:23:49 AM

JAY SAI NATH.... :)

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah....................

No one can hurt me.I can hurt myself......... :D

Ladki Ladke wala love alag aur humanity wala love alag hai.Ladki Ladke wala love selfish aur humanity wala love selfless.

Jaha Selfishness waha Bhagwan Kaha.

Ladki Ladke wala love is passion but love for humanity is compassion.

So Do U love Ur Neighbour as Thyself ??????

Baba Bless All.

=======================================


Om sai Ram,,

Dear posting,,

I think ,, U had hurt a lottttttttttttttttttttttttttt in ur past.. tht u dnt belive in love...

especially ur this words,,


Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

what do u mean by this dear,, not to love human,, just love GOD???? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

God himself,, tell us to love everyone..anyways.. We will surely pray for U...

JAY SAI NATH


Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................

Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............Weak people ka kaam nahi hai pyaar karna.Jis ke Pass Strong Heart hai, he or she can only love.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.If two people are truely in love then they will stick to each other hook or crook.False lovers get separted.Saab Attachment ka khel hai ye saacha nakli pyaar.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.

Jism Ka Sambandh Saacha Pyaar Nahi Hota.This animal can do.

Pyaar karne ka natak kaarna easy hai per nibhana difficult.People do love marriage and after that they divorce.Kyu?Because they were true lovers.Isn't it?

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.

Do Amar or Eternal Love and that can only be done with GOD Sai  not with bodywala lover.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah......................
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 07, 2007, 05:31:42 AM
Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............
Koun?? Hum Sab?? Ya Main?  ??? What is the difference between me,u and all people.We are all same and One.We are children of Sai and we are one.If I hurt u then I hurt myself.This message was for whole forum members just not for u.Please don't take it personally.If u are hurt then I am also hurt.I m no different from U.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.
Well said! You can't expect your lover to love you back. (However one-sided love only hurts and remains uncomplete).Don't call one-sided love as love,its just desire and not love.If we had truely loved her or him na then by hook or crook we would have got him or her.Sai ke Baache Hai,nothing is impossible for us.First have faith in ur self.U know why are we doing one-sided,just because we don't have faith on urself.God help those who help themselves.Have Faith in Urself and don't think inferior to none.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.
I don't think so. Obviously saccha love exists in this world. Physical attraction may not be real love...but love that is totally committed to the welfare of the other is true love. True love never dies in contrary to "false" love...Man and woman love is not true love until he sees God in her and she see God in him.Both serve each other as they are serving God.They always see Good in each other and help each other to improves themselves.That is true love.If he or she loves  because of his or her looks,position and material aspects then that is not true love.But now in this world u will rarely find true love but all is attachment.Saab materialistic hogaye hai.We will feel bad and we will not accept this statement but with little introspection u will find it true.But to love others u should love urself first then only u can love others selflessly.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.
Is forum mein jitne bhi log apna pyaar na milne ki wajeh se aaye hai, wo sai baba par ilzaam nahi laga rahe ki "baba you did so with me..." They are just praying to sai for his support, for forgiveness if they have done any mistakes...Ya sai will support them if there intentions are neat and clean...if their love is true.One sided love is just desire not love.If we love ourself then we will get support from Sai.But first we need to love ourselves .We are extension of  Sai.Pray Sai with total and surrender that your faith on urself increase.

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.
Agar sai baba bhi aisa chahte, to is duniya mein pyaar aur attraction naam ki koi cheez hoti hi nahi. Jo hota hai sai baba ki marzi se hota hai, so we let him to regulate this world. Main to kahunga, ki jisse bhi pyaar karo, sirf saccha pyaar karo.

Who does Saacha Pyaar Now a days?No even one single person.Not even the mother,father,son,brother,sister wife or lover.Every one is loving other just to get it back.Bina favour ke kaam nahi chalta hai aaj kaal.Without giving we will not get anything.We pray Sai because we want something from Him.We don't love Him selflessly.So Were is love inside this praying.I am praying so Sai u do for me this.This is True Love or Saacha Pyaar?Saacha Pyaar does not want anything in return.It is Selfless.It just gives......

Om Sai Ram
-karan-
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: nimmi_sai on September 07, 2007, 10:06:27 AM
Shreyamishra ji ...
sai ram ...
i agree with u ...ajj ki post pad ker even i m alsoo feeling very bad ......MAIN BAS YAHI KAHOONGI KI PYAAR KERNEY KE LIYE KUCH KHAAS DIL HI BANEY HOTEY HAI ..PYAAR SAB KE  BAS  KI BAAT NAHI ..PYAAR BHAGWAN SE OR USKEY BANAYE HUAY  HAR  INSAAN SE KERNA CHIYE ...PYAAR KERNA KOI BURI BAAT NAHI ...BAS US MAIN KOI SELFISNESS NA HO TO WO PYAAR VERDAAN BAN JAATA HAI ....JISKO MIL JAATA HAI US PER KHUD ISHWER KI KRIPA HO JAATI HAI
END MAIN EK BAAT YAHI KAHOONGI KI PLS PYAAR KO OR BADNAAM NA KIYA JAAYE OR BABA SE YAHI PRAY KEREY KI PYAAR  HER DIL MAIN HO..OR HAR KISE SE HOOO .OR JITNA FHELEY UTNA KAM HAI ..ISI LIYE KISE NE KAHA HAI .
...Ham Ne Dekhii Hai In AaNkho Kii Mahakatii Khushabuu
Haath Se Chhuu ke Ise Rishto Kaa Ilzaam Na Do
Sirf Ehasaas Hai Ye Ruuh Se Mahasuus Karo
Pyaar Ko Pyaar Hii Rahane Do Koii Naam Na Do

JAHAN PYAAR HAI WAHAIN BHAGWAN HAI ...
LOVE IS GOD ......
MAY SAI BLESS U ALL.....
OM SAI SHRI SAI JAI JAI SAI
NIMMI
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 07, 2007, 11:09:36 AM
Love ka matlab nahi samje aur love karne chale..............
Koun?? Hum Sab?? Ya Main?  ??? What is the difference between me,u and all people.We are all same and One.We are children of Sai and we are one.If I hurt u then I hurt myself.This message was for whole forum members just not for u.Please don't take it personally.If u are hurt then I am also hurt.I m no different from U.

If u love some one does not mean he or she should love u back.If u r expecting then its not love.Maine favour kiya aab aap ki bari.Love does not expect anything in return.Love means sacrifice.One sided intense love without expecting fruit.
Well said! You can't expect your lover to love you back. (However one-sided love only hurts and remains uncomplete).Don't call one-sided love as love,its just desire and not love.If we had truely loved her or him na then by hook or crook we would have got him or her.Sai ke Baache Hai,nothing is impossible for us.First have faith in ur self.U know why are we doing one-sided,just because we don't have faith on urself.God help those who help themselves.Have Faith in Urself and don't think inferior to none.

There is nothing called Sacha Love.
I don't think so. Obviously saccha love exists in this world. Physical attraction may not be real love...but love that is totally committed to the welfare of the other is true love. True love never dies in contrary to "false" love...Man and woman love is not true love until he sees God in her and she see God in him.Both serve each other as they are serving God.They always see Good in each other and help each other to improves themselves.That is true love.If he or she loves  because of his or her looks,position and material aspects then that is not true love.But now in this world u will rarely find true love but all is attachment.Saab materialistic hogaye hai.We will feel bad and we will not accept this statement but with little introspection u will find it true.But to love others u should love urself first then only u can love others selflessly.

People whose intentions are clear always stay together.Jine ke intention clear nahi hai saache payyar ka naam dekar rote hai...Sai why did u so?Bechara Sai Bhi kya kare jab dono me se Ek ka intention sahi nahi ho ya dono ka sahi nahi ho.Why Sai will take Pariksha?Sai is a Examiner or what.U will do and say Sai why are u testing me.Jaise Karni waise bharni.Keep ur intention and commitment very clear then Sai will also help u..We should not blame God,we are responsible for whatever state we are.
Is forum mein jitne bhi log apna pyaar na milne ki wajeh se aaye hai, wo sai baba par ilzaam nahi laga rahe ki "baba you did so with me..." They are just praying to sai for his support, for forgiveness if they have done any mistakes...Ya sai will support them if there intentions are neat and clean...if their love is true.One sided love is just desire not love.If we love ourself then we will get support from Sai.But first we need to love ourselves .We are extension of  Sai.Pray Sai with total and surrender that your faith on urself increase.

Saacha pyaar sirf Bhagwan se ho sakta hai Body waale insaan se nahi.Body wala to aaj, nahi to kal chala jayega.

Why are u wasting time and love energy on some one who will not stay permanently with u even if u get married.If this way he or she does not go then death will snatch away.
Agar sai baba bhi aisa chahte, to is duniya mein pyaar aur attraction naam ki koi cheez hoti hi nahi. Jo hota hai sai baba ki marzi se hota hai, so we let him to regulate this world. Main to kahunga, ki jisse bhi pyaar karo, sirf saccha pyaar karo.

Who does Saacha Pyaar Now a days?No even one single person.Not even the mother,father,son,brother,sister wife or lover.Every one is loving other just to get it back.Bina favour ke kaam nahi chalta hai aaj kaal.Without giving we will not get anything.We pray Sai because we want something from Him.We don't love Him selflessly.So Were is love inside this praying.I am praying so Sai u do for me this.This is True Love or Saacha Pyaar?Saacha Pyaar does not want anything in return.It is Selfless.It just gives......

Om Sai Ram
-karan-

OM SRI SAI RAM

Pravin Bhai, Sai Ram

Very well said.

But, it takes a long way for many to understand, in the right sense, what you mean.  For, each and every word of that you have posted is filled with spiritualism and thus you have indicated in true meaning and the exact purpose of the birth of the very word "LOVE".

Thanks a lot for adding to our divine forum the meaning and purpose of LOVE so beautifully.

Baba bless the true love always.
Baba bless us all

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: saidasan on September 07, 2007, 02:33:21 PM
Love is a feeling of continuous expansion of Joy. Not all relationships are meant to be the same, some things can be shared with siblings, something with parents, many things with friends and everything with your Spouse.

Only True Yogis can love everyone alike, householders should never cease the practise of loving fellow brothers and sisters irrespective of your tendency.

Physical love is a will of God. It’s a shame to condemn it as despicable and unreal. Physical love is the first step that nurtures eternal love between Husband and a wife. It is Gods gift to men and women to taste a few moments of Egoless bliss. Many mistake its purpose solely for reproduction. A shiva Linga is nothing but a communion of Shiva and Shakti.

Classifying Love and attempting for the impossible Yogic state of love – The world is my home, every one is my Family is not recommended for householders.

When the Soul is ripe you will be ready to love everyone alike until then Enjoy Love, give Love without worrying too much about the quality and Quantity. If you love someone more and another less, don’t worry about it, impartially (without attachment and analysis) observe your own actions. Things will change for good because Mind doesn’t like to be observed and will invariably lose its battle to your Soul which is God.
Spend every moment of youy life in Love without worrying much about idealistic love. Love is Joy. A joyful heart doesn't make mistakes and is close to God.
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: MANAV_NEHA on September 07, 2007, 02:46:10 PM
PLZ BABA HELP TO REAL LOVERS :-*
OM SAI RAM
OM SAI RAM
OM SAI RAM
OM SAI RAM
OM SAI RAM
SABKA MALIK EK :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 07, 2007, 10:03:29 PM
om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram




Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 07, 2007, 10:17:20 PM
om sai ram

wow deletin just any post in this forum is not allowd...............

delete wht u dnt like

mr eraser

om sai ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Shreesri on September 08, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
Shree Sai

Pranam Baba ji!

I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

A small passage from Sai Satchrita:

Sai Baba required no special place, nor any special time for giving instructions. Whenever any occasion demanded, He gave them freely. Once it so happened that a Bhakta of Baba, reviled another behind his back, before other people. On leaving aside merits, he dwelt on the faults of his brother, and spoke so sarcastically, that the hearers were disgusted. Generally, we see that people have a tendency to scandalize others, un-necessarily; and this brings on hatred and ill-will. Saints see scandal, in another light. They say that there are various ways of cleansing or removing dirt, viz. by means of earth, water and soap etc., but a scandal-monger has got a way of his own. He removes the dirt (faults) of others by his tongue; so in a way of obliges the person, whom he reviles and for this he is to be thanked. Sai Baba had his own method of correcting the scandal-monger. He knew by his omniscience what the slanderer had done and when He met him at noon near the Lendi, Baba pointed out to him a pig that was eating filth near the fence and said to him - "Behold how, with what relish it is gorging dung. Your conduct is similar. You go on reviling your own brethren to your heart's content. After performing many deeds of merit, you are born a man, and if you act like this, will Shirdi help you in any way?" Needless to say, that the Bhakta took the lesson to his heart, and went away.

Shree Sai
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: tana on September 08, 2007, 01:37:59 AM
Om Sai Ram~~~



I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".


Shreesai ji,
sairam...

Well said................



Jai Sai Ram~~~
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 08, 2007, 01:59:55 AM
Om Sai Ram~~~



I too do not agree totally with what Mr / Ms.Posting has expressed since it is not that practical way of approaching. But, I have few lines to add to this post.

This is an open forum and every member can freely express their opinion.

But, attacking at personal levels and mockery is not to welcomed.

I appeciate the administration to have deleted those objectionable posts which I saw hardly few hours ago.

If we do not agree with others opinion, we have always ways to express or condemn but not by abusing anyone personally.

Then we can not call ourselves Baba's devotees.

I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".


Shreesai ji,
sairam...

Well said................



Jai Sai Ram~~~


Shreesri ji, Sai Ram

A hearty welcome to this Dwarakamai.

I sincerely thank you for expressing you opinion frankly.

I hope all the members will take the contents of your post in right spirit and make this forum much more a precious one.

Baba bless U always

JAI SAI NATH
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: sai_bless_all on September 08, 2007, 02:33:36 AM
With all due respect to everyone,

I don't see the reason why the topic of "... love marriage" should be objectionable to anybody in this forum. Whoever said only certain problems are meant to be taken up to God? People go to God with all kinds of problems. There is nothing unusual in these girls prayers. The kind of prayers offered to God are different at different ages/stages in a person's life. In a normal life, between 5-12, you ask for toys and chocolates maybe, somewhere around 18-30, you ask for love/companionship, a career, offspring etc., later on you ask for the welfare of your spouse and kids, and life goes on.....there are difficulties and obstacles we face at every phase of life and we have always been taught to resort to the Almighty with any and all kinds of problems that we encounter in this journey of life. Prayer gives us strength to bear the agony of anything that is emotionally taunting or torturing us. In this case, all these girls facing the exact same problem, found each other through this forum and are comforting and helping each other go through this difficult period in their life. It is difficult for them, though it might not seem to be a big deal to many. Attraction, Infatuation, and falling in Love are experienced by everyone when they are young. Why is it considered wrong? It is meant to be that way. One cannot belittle anyone's problems in life. And yes, certain lessons in life are only meant to be learnt through experience.....You are expected to think like a 10 year old at 10, 25 year old at 25 and 50 year old at 50. It is not only futile but also unnecessary for a 50/25 year old to explain anything about life to a 10 year old. You definitely don't want to be robbed of your childhood innocence or your youthful exuberance by being forced to understand life without getting a chance to experience it.

Om Sai Sri Sai

Priya
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: sureshsarat on September 08, 2007, 04:58:21 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Dear All Sairam

I am blessed that I came to this mandir. I posted my prayers here and so many of the Sai Bandhus prayed for me and still doing for others too.

It greatly pains now when I see that some of us are not maintaining the decorum and respect the feelings of each other.

Pravin bhai, you are absolutely right about physical love, attachment etc. But is it really possible for us to be detached from the body ? I feel we are all still at the lowest rung of spirituality. And that is not a bad qualification. It is but natural if we fall in love, if we love somebody for their external traits and personality, it is absolutely OK if we are involved with Physical Love. It is acceptable by our Lord Sai too. Or else why would he wail and cry when the blessed Megha died ? Where was the need for him to emote as normal human being ? Lord Sai is the most unique of the saints. He satisfied the beings basic needs so that they can latter on appreciate his actual preachings. He acted as the humans so that we can understand him better. This is most evident from what he said "I give what they so that they will ask what I want to give".



All the humans are intelligent enough to realise that love and hate are two sides of the same coin. All realise that it is just a Maya. Therefore they come out of shock, loss etc.

How can one survive without attachment ? Did we not know or do we not know that death will do us apart when we married or get married ? Even our elders knew this. This world will not exist without some of these attachments. We are physically attached to our parents, siblings, friends, spouses and children. We even have pets to which we attach great importance. We cry/laugh along with them. This is a nature and the world's way. Else we will be zombies.

Only thing to remember : Lets not get carried away with these attachments to a point where it might upset us or others. Thats I mentioned Love does not hurt. IT SHOULD NOT HURT.

Similarly, let us try not to get personal when we want to make a point.
Postingji is at an higher level of thinking and practise. It might not suit others. It does not mean we have to get upset about it. We are all a big family. Please understand that it is our Rinanubandha which has brought us together. (it is mentioned in the Sri Sai Satcharitra). Let's not kick away the gift our Lord Sai, which has brought us all together.

If our posts are deleted by the Moderator, we should ask the moderator for the reason. We should try to understand or convince the moderator about our convictions. And still if it does not seem satisfactory, lets just forget it and pray to Our Lord to guide us. He is the supreme and most understanding.

Sairam

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: sureshsarat on September 08, 2007, 05:09:55 AM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

I thank Shreesriji for posting a beautiful extract from the SSS. I would like to add another extract which I feel is very much in place:

Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other
persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another
occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other
devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, "Oh mother, be more considerate and
moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves". At this Baba got up at
once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became
red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of
one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The
other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka
which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the
people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and
immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly.
Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what
to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His
Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in
her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention,
but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned
effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see.
Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From
this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody
but allow him to serve Baba as the chooses, as He was capable to gauge the merits and
worth of the service rendered unto Him.

So baba alone is most capable to assess us.
Sairam
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 08, 2007, 06:03:34 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

So much love and blessings from my brothers and sisters.I m thankful to you all.

No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

BABA bless all.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................









Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: tana on September 08, 2007, 06:06:16 AM
Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................

So much love and blessings from my brothers and sisters.I m thankful to you all.

No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

BABA bless all.

Om Shri Sai Nathaya Namah........................................



Om Sai Ram~~~

Pravin bhai....

Gr8...No one can hurt us unless we hurt ourselves.

Sai Bless u ...

Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~Om Sri sai Nathaya Namha~~~

Jai Sai Ram~~~
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 08, 2007, 06:07:13 AM
better check with moderator who deleted the mails instead of pointing finger to wrong person.

======================================

om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram





Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 08, 2007, 06:43:01 AM
better check with moderator who deleted the mails instead of pointing finger to wrong person.

======================================

om sai ram

u r very rigt shreya.........evn my post s deleted.............

god bless u posting ji......mr.praveen

u need him more thn we do

u say we dnt knw wht is love.............
n i say u dnt knw wht s god............thn hw wud u undrstnd wht s his love
u r nt able to tk out ego of urself..............hw cud baba b thr

plz cntinue n carry on wd ur so calld politics................

i knw evn  ths one will b deleted n as shreya evn m gonna forward it to many ppl

well u forgot one thing
evn if its deleted frm here
thr r sm ppl who rcv it n wil b still havin it..........

nd m myself gonna remove th last reply.....
thnk u so much of concern from all th members

dnt worry ppl baba aisa test lete rehte hain

n need less to say we dnt wana b a part of such a family..........


god bless u all

om sai ram






wud like to appologise to posting ji for this msg......

it ws in a fit of angr tht ths ws posted......
i ws arrognt at this........

nd i request th moderator to kindly let me knw th reason of my post being deleted nd not shreya s........

according to me i had been very careful in draftin it.........

i hd given my opinion my views nd my explanations
n nthin more thn tht.........

i respect th spiritual progress of all th ppl here......
but we r still to move on th path ..........
whch u hv already crossed
nd baba ofcrs hs his own ways to promote n teach things to each one of us..........
i mean u wud hv also crossed our stage.........

i wanted guidnce from posting ji on certain things mentioned in th post........we r always eagr to knw wht s correct n wht s not............

we knw things are transient........
none is gonna b wd us in th end....

i dnt knw if n e one s gonna undrstnd this as well........

nd plz if u havnt read it dnt call thm abusive......

posting ji if u hv read tht post frm me plz lemme knw....
i always wanna knw n learn thing

i hv requested th moderators to send me tht post.........

let it b an opn n democrtic affr ......

om sai ram....
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: saloni1 on September 08, 2007, 08:33:04 AM
 jai sai ram
is tereh se ladney se kya baba khush ho rahe hongey . ? jahan pyaar hota hai wahan devta bastey hai . jahan jhagda wahan sai bhi chaley jaatey hain . yahan ham sab sai ma ko yaad kerey to acha hoga .
sai ma app sab ka kalyan kerey .
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
jai sai ram
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jai sai ram
jai sai ram
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jai sai ram
jai sai ram

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: posting on September 08, 2007, 08:48:58 AM
Om Sai Nathaya Namah.....................

Dear Sister,

There is no need to feel sorry or guilty.Everything happens for good.To take us to new level of spirituality.

Baba Bless U.

Om Sai Nathaya Namah.....................

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 08, 2007, 09:25:40 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Baba! bless us all and guide us all in the right path.

JAI SRI SAI RAM

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: adwaita on September 08, 2007, 01:13:36 PM
Dear all,

I am not that expert to discuss about true love. I know just one thing that there is only love and nothing like true love or false love. I also stick to one point that man should love his mind as well as his body. Body plays as equal role as his mind. If the body doesn't have any value then baba would never ask his devotees to eat before praying. All I know are these simple points which also makes life simple.

It is very unfortunate to see posts like below calling the posts as a CHAT ROOM. If the post is gone through clearly, we can find so many prayers in it not only 'hi and bye'. It also includes some one's pain, sorrow and prayers and those prayers are not a joke. My only one question is - Does all the poeple who go to shirdi keep on praying to baba without talking anything to anyone? This forum is like our dwarakamai, but it is very disappointing to see few people considering something like this as fake. Please forgive me if I am offending anyone but there should be freedom for at least praying and sharing some one's problem. om sai ram. 


Shree Sai
 
 
I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

 
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: adwaita on September 08, 2007, 01:43:57 PM
Dear suresh bhai,

I am thankful to you for explaining very well about love in simple and beautiful words. Baba bless this forum always with people like you. om sai ram.


Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Dear All Sairam

I am blessed that I came to this mandir. I posted my prayers here and so many of the Sai Bandhus prayed for me and still doing for others too.

It greatly pains now when I see that some of us are not maintaining the decorum and respect the feelings of each other.

Pravin bhai, you are absolutely right about physical love, attachment etc. But is it really possible for us to be detached from the body ? I feel we are all still at the lowest rung of spirituality. And that is not a bad qualification. It is but natural if we fall in love, if we love somebody for their external traits and personality, it is absolutely OK if we are involved with Physical Love. It is acceptable by our Lord Sai too. Or else why would he wail and cry when the blessed Megha died ? Where was the need for him to emote as normal human being ? Lord Sai is the most unique of the saints. He satisfied the beings basic needs so that they can latter on appreciate his actual preachings. He acted as the humans so that we can understand him better. This is most evident from what he said "I give what they so that they will ask what I want to give".



All the humans are intelligent enough to realise that love and hate are two sides of the same coin. All realise that it is just a Maya. Therefore they come out of shock, loss etc.

How can one survive without attachment ? Did we not know or do we not know that death will do us apart when we married or get married ? Even our elders knew this. This world will not exist without some of these attachments. We are physically attached to our parents, siblings, friends, spouses and children. We even have pets to which we attach great importance. We cry/laugh along with them. This is a nature and the world's way. Else we will be zombies.

Only thing to remember : Lets not get carried away with these attachments to a point where it might upset us or others. Thats I mentioned Love does not hurt. IT SHOULD NOT HURT.

Similarly, let us try not to get personal when we want to make a point.
Postingji is at an higher level of thinking and practise. It might not suit others. It does not mean we have to get upset about it. We are all a big family. Please understand that it is our Rinanubandha which has brought us together. (it is mentioned in the Sri Sai Satcharitra). Let's not kick away the gift our Lord Sai, which has brought us all together.

If our posts are deleted by the Moderator, we should ask the moderator for the reason. We should try to understand or convince the moderator about our convictions. And still if it does not seem satisfactory, lets just forget it and pray to Our Lord to guide us. He is the supreme and most understanding.

Sairam


Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Shreesri on September 08, 2007, 11:44:32 PM
Dear all,

I am not that expert to discuss about true love. I know just one thing that there is only love and nothing like true love or false love. I also stick to one point that man should love his mind as well as his body. Body plays as equal role as his mind. If the body doesn't have any value then baba would never ask his devotees to eat before praying. All I know are these simple points which also makes life simple.

It is very unfortunate to see posts like below calling the posts as a CHAT ROOM. If the post is gone through clearly, we can find so many prayers in it not only 'hi and bye'. It also includes some one's pain, sorrow and prayers and those prayers are not a joke. My only one question is - Does all the poeple who go to shirdi keep on praying to baba without talking anything to anyone? This forum is like our dwarakamai, but it is very disappointing to see few people considering something like this as fake. Please forgive me if I am offending anyone but there should be freedom for at least praying and sharing some one's problem. om sai ram. 


Shree Sai
 
 
I request the administration to delete the topic on 'love marriages..." too since the topic is bringing made this divine forum almost a CHAT ROOM. Typing something and adding a mere 'sairam' should not be called something done in the divine name "sai".

 

Shreesai

Adwaita ji,

As you have rightly put it, no one is an expert to say anything. We all are going on learning  from various sources and this Dwarakamai supposed to be a place of peace is an ocean of knowledge and hence we are all flocking to it. Just tell me what is the message one member conveys in an open forum by calling another member to quickly come on to the Yahoo messenger for a chat and adding a sai ram ?

Is this Dwarakamai meant for that ?

If one person fails in love, and seeks other saibandhus to pray for them, it shows the value they have for their love and lover. No doubt in it. But, please go through that topic and every post and then you number out how many posts are worth to be read in an open forum. What does this 'second love' mean  (in one of those posts)? What does this topic conclude ? Whether Baba supports love marriage or wants to you search for  a second and third love ? How cheap these words sound in a devotional forum? Is this the way Sai devotees should express ?
 
If you feel every post worthy and informative in the forum, then I shall modify my post and remove the word 'Chat Room'. I am sorry to get a reply from a true devotee like you.

Under the present topic too, I do not feel the way the moderators / admisnistration /diplomacy ....... etc are taken to task. I do not know what is all this negativity continuing still. Instead of feeling bad that they have posted something objectionable and revising themselves, we should not continue to be quarreling.

It indirectly means that more than the decorum of the forum, expression of our ego is given more importance here.

Shreya ji, atleast now, make your self clear enough than continuing mockery, for, one day you may be replied in the same or even least indecent way, by a suitable member.

I also request the administration to advise Mr./Ms. Posting not to post with provocative langauage since the same hurts sentiments of many.

I request no mockery from your side Shreya ji on my posts.

To differ on any opinion is quite natural. But, knowing our own mistakes and rectifying them is human. I congratulate Ms.Suhani and Mr./ Ms. Posting for their nice guesture here.

Shreesai
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 09, 2007, 12:30:31 AM
om sai ram

dear sai brothrs and sisters

this is our temple....
nd we have our own views.
nd each one is correct from whr he or she looks at the situation........

we didnt post ne thin sayin ths n ths s is wrng......
but it ws jst an attempt to cnvince all about our point of view.....

My english teachr at high school once said tht
NO ONE IS PERFECT WE ARE ALL ON TH PATH TO PERFECTION
baba ,par brahm is perfection
n he is pulling us all to him

_ :-\__ :'(_____________________________ :)___________________________GOD                                                                                      

we all occupy diffrent positions on this spiritual path n no one s wrng as baba himself is guiding each one of us he s within us

m a teachr myself...
n as per th psychological principal of teaching........

u can not teach division to a child of class 1 or nursery.........
thr mind s nt so developd.......
othr things r to b dealt wd first........
or th child may b scared of it,run away frm things cnsidring thm to b difficlt.....

moreovr we follow diffrnt methods......activities n all at juniour level.
nd lectures at highr levl.....
if lectr methd s followd at pirmry levl th child will lose intreset...

baba is our guru or teacher......
sm kids r still in nursery class of his spiritual school
n he follows a diffrnt method wd thm tht of dierct experiences nd wll proceed to highr levls latr.

dealing wd individual differences as well

i hv seen cases whr whn ppl do not rcv support frm god or ny othr corrct source thy think of human n spiritual values as fake......thy do not trust god n mock at th faith whch we have........

tht s wht it is .........we had good karmas to resort to baba s feet........

i took senior membrs as my teachers.....u have so much of spiritual experience...nd we cn learn frm it n hv been learning frm thm........
i hv lernt to be calm,patient n faith ful frm nimmi ji,saidasan ji,shweta suresh ji.........n all of th seniour members.

it been an year or so baba hs embraced me.n being a new lerner i ws eagr to tlk to him....reffrd to th question answr book...n th segmnt in th forum ,ssc..nd ..... frm discussn on th chit method......i wondred if we cud listen frm baba within...n in th past few days i hv followd th innr voice frm within
n hv realised tht whn th sea of thots is silent baba speaks.........n needless to say it stnds gud whn folld n problms whn nt..........


thr are ppl who are at the initiall point.....nd discssns like ths.....shake thr faith....we r nt competent enuf to judge nybdy nwe hv no authority as well....tht power rest at th feet of th lord.... nd if we cnnot help thm plz lets not break thm emotionally or create doubt for thm..............we need ur guidnce..prayers nd blessings......it will take us time to cm to th higher level ........nd baba s thr to guide each one of us.

i always wishd to cmmunicate wd th seniour membrs n seek guidnce...bt ws hesitnt most of th times......
n ths happnd for gud in tht sense

well
i wishd if evn u all cud pray wd us......

may baba bless all

om sai ram




Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 09, 2007, 01:14:51 AM
om sai ram........

i think th whole of it became an issue...aftr th post were deleted.th posts no doubt are deleted to maintain th sanctity of th temple.but thr ws nthin as such writtn........if baba helps we may get the deleted post....nd thn u all can read nd decide......

th mattr wud hv not takn th shape.....cz all thngs m explainin here were already mentiond thr.

i didnt reply initially......
cz of a few thots frm ssc........
tht only ego gvs rise to discssn n debate......
nd tht let th world go topsy turvy u shudnt move frm ur place......

whts mine s wd me n whts urs is wd u.........so thr ws nvr a need of th discssn.
but thn we need to cnvinc u all of our point of view as well
nd nt to prove ny one wrng.
cz as i v earlier said.
all are corrct frm th point thy view things.........

 we invite each othr to yahoo n all...........
n lemme explain th reason as well

it s to maintain th decorum of th temple.........
we fall we break emotionally n we dnt wanna express it at th forum....
we listen to each othr,support n console each othr.....nd rise agn wth highr spirits.
we hv invited each oth for conferences n all are welcomed for those.
keerthi di hd been to shirdi nd she s bsy.
we wntd to talk to her n knw bout her experiences n thy too hv been posted in th topic. :)

n we want to begin wd n end our wrds takin baba s name........ :)

n.... i hope i hv cleard myself n my frns.

we r ready to gv an explanation whtevr u ask for.....

but i dnt feel gud if we or our intntions are misundrstood.

we hv our own view to look at things........
sm deal wd thm authoritatvly sm democrticlly n othrs tak things light.........
whn we do not knw individuals we shud not commnt upon ne bdy........
it might hurt sm one n latr on we may realise tht we r wrng....

shreya gvs smiles to each one of us
her attackin way to problems is appreciated
she fills us up wd enthusiasm
she had nthin to do wd th affr...
she hs her family
but knwn tht things were takin a wrng shape she posted things
as we all were upset wd it.....
nd she wsnt evn aware of ths topic.........
i brot ths to her notice.....

ths thng.......
hs put a question mark on our image n character.........
we are comited...n th social taboos,kundali things,caste,nd ego of parents in sm cases...we r togthr fightin wd these n prayin baba to remove these..........these may b due to previous karmas....n it wl lead to furthr discsn whch i personally dnt wnt.
nd as a represntativ frm all my frns.......i hv put all ths here.

.
at difficlt times we all seek god..........ur problem n my problem are diffrnt al togthr.........i hv felt tht u dnt evn need to think of ur problems as baba knws wht u feel.........nd expressin our things hv created these problms........n love s still nt undrstood......only th wearer knws whr th shoe pinches....whn its love its ought to b pure.............

jaisa bhav rha jis jan ka vaisa roop hua mere mann ka.........
lets all serve him the way we like cz he accepts all........

no one s wrng.....

om sai ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pearl India on September 09, 2007, 01:50:24 AM
om sai ram

nd respectin th feelins of all.........
we will try n make more use of personal msgs
for invitin ppl for confrnce or chats....
it ws jst tht to ask thm to come to a common place ws easier.....

we wished to make it a practise using om sai ram or sairam for greeting ppl instead of using hello or hi.....n thts wht cms strt frm heart....


keerthi di hs been really close to us in th last few days
n she is a trstwrthy source
th administration can confirm frm her

regards
suhani

om sai ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 02:17:30 AM
With all due respect to everyone,

I don't see the reason why the topic of "... love marriage" should be objectionable to anybody in this forum. Whoever said only certain problems are meant to be taken up to God? People go to God with all kinds of problems. There is nothing unusual in these girls prayers. The kind of prayers offered to God are different at different ages/stages in a person's life. In a normal life, between 5-12, you ask for toys and chocolates maybe, somewhere around 18-30, you ask for love/companionship, a career, offspring etc., later on you ask for the welfare of your spouse and kids, and life goes on.....there are difficulties and obstacles we face at every phase of life and we have always been taught to resort to the Almighty with any and all kinds of problems that we encounter in this journey of life. Prayer gives us strength to bear the agony of anything that is emotionally taunting or torturing us. In this case, all these girls facing the exact same problem, found each other through this forum and are comforting and helping each other go through this difficult period in their life. It is difficult for them, though it might not seem to be a big deal to many. Attraction, Infatuation, and falling in Love are experienced by everyone when they are young. Why is it considered wrong? It is meant to be that way. One cannot belittle anyone's problems in life. And yes, certain lessons in life are only meant to be learnt through experience.....You are expected to think like a 10 year old at 10, 25 year old at 25 and 50 year old at 50. It is not only futile but also unnecessary for a 50/25 year old to explain anything about life to a 10 year old. You definitely don't want to be robbed of your childhood innocence or your youthful exuberance by being forced to understand life without getting a chance to experience it.

Om Sai Sri Sai

Priya

OM SRI SAI RAM

Priya ji, Sai Ram!

Hearty welcome to this Dwarakamai.

Indeed a beautiful analysis and a very meaningful post.

Please continue to share your valuable messages in our forum.

Baba bless U always.

Baba be with Us all

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: saidasan on September 09, 2007, 03:02:31 AM
Not just Love anything hurts when you focus your energy and attention passionately to it.
By keeping this topic active someone or other is going to get hurt. And it might set the trap of spiraling replies.

We are all devotees of Sai and it is better to use the approach Say-So-And-Leave.
IMHO, locking this thread could do this forum a world of good.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: adwaita on September 09, 2007, 03:37:22 AM
Dear shreesri ji,

You are absolutely correct, we are still in the path of learning. When we are still learning, no one can expect us to think everything in a spiritual manner. At least I have not yet reached that stage. May be that's why I wished to stay away from this topic. One or two posts may not make sense shree ji but just for the sake of those posts, deleting the whole topic is injustice because it has so many prayers. And if at all deleting that topic is a solution for it, then it would have been gone long back. The thread starter might have started the topic keeping her points in view and those who check that thread may have some other point of view. It may not seem to be a big problem to few but only those who suffer knew what it is like.

As suhani said, adding a sai ram is just a good practice. Nothing to cover up the message or to make it more important by adding a 'sai ram'. When I make a call, some people say 'sai ram' instead of hello. So almost all the people in this forum are habituated to 'sai ram'. Please do not call me a true devotee, I do not deserve it. I am not replying in return to argue with you, I am just replying because I also agree with your points. Please forgive me if my words are offending. Hope there will always be love among us instead of ego and pride which breeds discussions. om sai ram.

Adwaita ji,

As you have rightly put it, no one is an expert to say anything. We all are going on learning  from various sources and this Dwarakamai supposed to be a place of peace is an ocean of knowledge and hence we are all flocking to it. Just tell me what is the message one member conveys in an open forum by calling another member to quickly come on to the Yahoo messenger for a chat and adding a sai ram ?

Is this Dwarakamai meant for that ?

If one person fails in love, and seeks other saibandhus to pray for them, it shows the value they have for their love and lover. No doubt in it. But, please go through that topic and every post and then you number out how many posts are worth to be read in an open forum. What does this 'second love' mean  (in one of those posts)? What does this topic conclude ? Whether Baba supports love marriage or wants to you search for  a second and third love ? How cheap these words sound in a devotional forum? Is this the way Sai devotees should express ?
 
If you feel every post worthy and informative in the forum, then I shall modify my post and remove the word 'Chat Room'. I am sorry to get a reply from a true devotee like you.

Under the present topic too, I do not feel the way the moderators / admisnistration /diplomacy ....... etc are taken to task. I do not know what is all this negativity continuing still. Instead of feeling bad that they have posted something objectionable and revising themselves, we should not continue to be quarreling.

It indirectly means that more than the decorum of the forum, expression of our ego is given more importance here.

Shreya ji, atleast now, make your self clear enough than continuing mockery, for, one day you may be replied in the same or even least indecent way, by a suitable member.

I also request the administration to advise Mr./Ms. Posting not to post with provocative langauage since the same hurts sentiments of many.

I request no mockery from your side Shreya ji on my posts.

To differ on any opinion is quite natural. But, knowing our own mistakes and rectifying them is human. I congratulate Ms.Suhani and Mr./ Ms. Posting for their nice guesture here.

Shreesai

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 03:48:41 AM
Not just Love anything hurts when you focus your energy and attention passionately to it.
By keeping this topic active someone or other is going to get hurt. And it might set the trap of spiraling replies.

We are all devotees of Sai and it is better to use the approach Say-So-And-Leave.
IMHO, locking this thread could do this forum a world of good.
Thanks.


OM SRI SAI RAM

Dear Sri, Sai Ram!

Our Father, Lord, God , Sadguru...(everything) has promised to Sapatnekar that he would place the same child in the womb of his wife. Thus, as promised, Baba did bless Sapatnekar with the same child.

Let us all together make this a very positive topic contributing positive replies so that it will be of use to all the members.

All the Sai Children, can comfortably spill 'lots of love' to this topic which is feeling 'hurt' sometime ago.

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: saidasan on September 09, 2007, 05:25:07 AM
Inner Worship

Hemadpant has given us a novel form of worship. Let us, he says, use hot water in the form of tears of joy to wash the Sad-guru's feet, let us besmear His body with sandle-paste of pure love, let us cover His body with the cloth of true faith, let us offer eight lotuses in the form of our eight Sattwik emotions and fruit in the form of our concentrated mind; let us apply to His head bukka (black-powder) in the form of devotion and tie the waistband of Bhakti and place our head on his toes.

After decorating the Sad-guru with all jewelry in this way, let us offer our all to Him and wave chamar of devotion to ward off heat. After such blissful worship, let us pray thus:- "Introvert our mind, turn it inward, give us discrimination between the Unreal and the Real and non-attachment for all worldly things and thus enable us to get Self-realisation. We surrender ourselves, body and soul (body-consciousness and ego). Make our eyes Yours, so that we should never feel pleasure and pain. Control our body and mind as You will and wish. Let our mind get rest in Your Feet".

Title: Love - in SSC
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:17:33 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

The Lovable Shirdi woman folk :

The news of Baba's grinding wheat spread into the village, and at once men and women ran to the Masjid and flocked there to see Baba's act. Four bold women, fro m the crowd, forced their way up and pushing Baba aside, took forcibly the peg or handle into their hands, and, singing Baba's Leelas, started grinding. At first Baba was enraged, but on seeing the women's love and devotion, He was much pleased and began to smile.

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Love - in SSC
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:23:41 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Motherly Love of Baba :


Everybody knows how a cow loves her infant calf.
Her udder is always full and when the calf wants milk and dashes at the udder, out comes the milk in an unceasing flow.

Similarly a human mother knows the wants of her child and feeds it, at her breast in time.
In case of dressing and adorning the child, the mother takes particular care to see that this is well done.
The child knows or cares nothing about this, but the mother's joy knows no bounds, when she sees her child beautifully dressed and adorned.
The love of mother is peculiar, extraordinary and disinterested, and has no parallel.

Sadgurus feel this motherly love towards their disciples. Sai Baba had this same love towards me, and I give an instance of it below:-

In 1916 A.D. I retired from Government Service. The pension that was settled in my case was not sufficient to maintain my family decently. On Guru-Pournima (15th of Ashadha) day of that year, I went to Shirdi with other devotees. There, Mr. Anna Chinchanikar, of his own accord, prayed to Baba for me as follows:- "Please look kindly on him, the pension he gets is quite insufficient, his family is growing. Give him some other appointment, remove his anxiety and make him happy." Baba replied - " He will get some other job, but now he should serve Me and be happy. His dishes will be ever full and never empty. He should turn all his attention towards Me and avoid the company of atheists, irreligious and wicked people. He should be meek and humble towards all and worship Me heart and soul. If he does this, he will get eternal happiness".

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Love - in SSC
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:29:34 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Baba's Love :


He looked softer than wax, a statue of peace and forgiveness.

Though He seemed to shake with anger and His red eyes rolled round and round, still, He was internally a stream of affection and motherly love.

He called out His devotees and said, that He ever angry with His devotees; that if mothers kicked their children and if the sea turned back the rivers, He would neglect the devotees' welfare: that He, the slave of His devotees, always stood by them, and responded to them, whenever they called upon Him, and that He always longed for their love.

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Love - in SSC
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:35:39 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Love of theTrio :


Tatya and Mahalsapati are two highly blessed souls who slept with Baba in the mosque. How great is their merit that they had such enormous good fortune, for Baba had the greatest of liking for them both and loved them equally.

These three would keep their heads to the east, west and north and sleep with their feet touching each other. They lay down and kept talking to each other till the late hours of the night. If anyone dozed off the other two would shake him awake. If Tatya fell asleep and started snoring, Baba and Mahalsapati would shake him, push him about and wake him by pressing hard his head, legs or back. Tatya slept with Baba for fourteen years in this manner, leaving his parents at home.

How can we measure the love Tatya had for Baba? In the same way can anyone put a value on the love Baba had for Tatya?

Those sweet days were unforgettable. Even though those days have gone, the sweet memories of them linger on.

When Tatya’s father passed away, the responsibility of the house fell on Tatya and from that time on he slept at home.”

Baba’s love and kindness will always fall copiously like a gentle rain on devotees such as Tatya and Mahalsapati. Their reminiscences give us all a great experience of Baba’s love.

JAI SAI RAM
Title: Guru's "Love" - SSC
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:50:23 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Guru's Love:


"My Guru never expected any other thing from Me.
He never neglected Me, but protected Me at all times.
I lived with him, and was sometimes away from him; still I never felt the want or absence of his love.
He always protected Me by his glance, just as the tortoise feeds her young ones, whether they are near her or away from her on the other side of the river bank, by her loving looks.

Oh mother, My Guru never taught Me any Mantra, then how shall I blow any Mantra in your ears? Just remember that Guru's tortoise-like loving glance gives us happiness. Do not try to get Mantra or Upadesh from anybody.

Make Me the sole object of your thoughts and actions; and you will, no doubt, attain Paramartha (the spiritual goal of life). Look at Me whole-heartedly, and I in turn look at you similarly. Sitting in this Masjid, I speak the truth, nothing but the truth. No Sadhanas, nor proficiency in the six Shastras, are necessary.

Have faith and confidence in your Guru. Believe fully, that Guru is the sole Actor or Doer. Blessed is he who knows the greatness of his Guru and thinks him to be Hari, Hara and Brahma (Trimurti) Incarnate."

JAI SRI SAI RAM
Title: Baba's Sweetest Words
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 09:54:46 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

"LET US LOVE...." - Baba's sweet words

It is on account of Rinaubandh (former relationship) that we have come together, let us love and serve each other and be happy.

He, who attain the supreme goal of life, is immortal and happy; all others merely exist, i.e., live so long as they breathe".


JAI SRI SAI RAM
Title: Bayajabai - personification of LOVE
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 10:16:34 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

BAYAJABAI -THE PERSONIFICATION OF LOVE


Baba's divine shape appears to us a glorious rainbow of love and affection.
 
Of all those devotees who danced happily, fully soaked in the gentle rain of Baba's love, the foremost was Sri Tatya Kote Patil. The love and devotion shown by his parents Sri Ganapati Kote and Smt. Bayajabai for Baba was the main reason behind the immense good fortune of Sri Tatya's attachment to Baba.

Ganapati Kote Patil went with his wife, Bayajabai, to meet Baba. Baba rose from his seat and welcomed them graciously, saying to Bayajibai, "Oh lady, you are really my sister!"

Bayajabai was enthralled by Baba. She was devoted to him and vowed that she would not eat without first giving food to Baba. As Bayajabai had vowed not to eat unless she fed Baba first, she would search high and low for him until she found him. She would wait at home for Baba till noon every day in case he would come to beg for food. When she found him she would make him sit down and would feed him with the utmost love and affection. After some time, as if to save Bayajabai the bother, Baba started staying at the mosque and having his food there.

That was the nature of love and devotion of Bayajabai towards Baba.

JAI SAI RAM




Title: Baba - Bayajamaami
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 10:36:44 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Bayajabai served Baba thus with great love and unswerving devotion for a long time. We are unfortunate that no written record is available to us of what Baba taught Bayajabai or what divine experiences he gave her. One incident is, however, available to us about Bayajabai from the reminiscences of Tatya Patil.

Tatya's words :

"Once Radhakrishna Ayi decided to go on a pilgrimage to Pandaripur from Shirdi by foot. Bala Shimpi and Madhav Fasle also started along with her. They wanted to take part in the festival which would be held at Pandaripur on the eleventh (ekadasi) day of the month of Ashaad. My mother (Bayajabai), a few others, and I too decided to go to Pandaripur to take part in the festival. As Radhakrishna Ayi and her group had already left, we decided to go by cart as far as Ahmednagar and catch up with them, after which we could all proceed further by foot. My mother, my brother-in-law, Lakshmibai Shinde and a few other ladies all got ready for the trip.

Before starting, we all went to the mosque to have the darshan of Baba and take his blessings for the trip. Baba blessed us and gave udi to each of us. Three carts packed with our stuff were standing ready under the tree at the village well. I went and broke a coconut at the Maruti temple so that our trip would go well without any problems, and later went to the temple of Saturn. About fifty villagers were standing at the village well to bid us farewell. While I was on my way to the temple of Saturn, I was surprised to see Baba standing where the Samadhi Mandir is at present. I broke a coconut at the temple of Saturn and came out. As I was coming out of the temple, Kondya, a Muslim devotee of Baba, came and told me that Baba was calling me. I went to Baba. He took me to the mosque. Some of the villagers who had come to bid us goodbye came with me to the mosque while the others stayed on at the well. I sat beside the railing at the mosque while Madhavrao Deshpande (Shama) sat opposite me. Madhavrao lit the pipe and gave it to Baba. Baba sat smoking. All were quiet. After a while Madhavrao said, "Deva (Oh, God) your Bayajabai and the others are all waiting for him to come so that they can go to Pandaripur. "Call Bayajabai," replied Baba.

My mother hurried in and said, " Baba, have you sent for me? The sun has set and the dusk is deepening. We are all ready to start."

Baba placidly said, "Mother, go home. Do not start today. Do not even start tomorrow. Start the day after tomorrow. Do not ask why. Do not consult anyone in this matter. Here, take this udi and go."

My mother did not hesitate a second or even take time to think. She said, "Alright Baba, we will go the day after as you say." We unloaded the carts and sent them off. Later, Madhavrao saw the astrological calendar and charts and said that the day was not an auspicious one for travel.

On the morning of the third day, we again got ready to travel. Baba cheerfully gave udi to each of us and came as far as the highway to see us off. We met Radhakrishna Ayi's group by nine a.m. We reached Pandaripur by the evening of the next day. Cholera struck Pandaripur by the eleventh day of the waxing moon and by the next day was raging throughout the town. Some of us wanted to leave immediately for Shirdi but I was adamant that we should stay till the day of the full moon. My mother was also scared. She met the mamalatdar, Sri Nana Saheb Chandorkar, who was an ardent devotee of Baba, and asked him to convince me to return to Shirdi. Nana Saheb sent for Bala Shimpi and me and advised us to return immediately to Shirdi. Baba knew that cholera would ravage Pandaripur, but seeing our enthusiasm for the trip could not forbid us to go to Pandaripur."

JAI SRI SAI RAM

Title: Re: Does Love hurt??!! - Bayajamaami's Love for Baba
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 10:45:08 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Bayajabai and her group were all packed and ready to go to Pandaripur.

Baba called her and asked her to postpone the trip.

She did that without a second thought. This shows her infinite trust and devotion for Baba.

This is the type of total surrender to his will that Baba has tried to teach us through his sayings, deeds and leelas. That is what we have to inculcate in ourselves and achieve as devotees of Sri Sai Baba.

Bayajabai occupies a prominent place amongst the devotees of Sri Sai Baba, in the history of Baba. After serving Baba with sisterly love, Bayajabai breathed her last in 1914.

It is natural for the devotees of Baba to be eager to visit the house of Bayajabai where Baba had begged food for sixty years. Bayajabai's family was staying first in a street east of the Chavadi near the present location of Ichhiraj Hotel. They later sold that house and built a new one behind the (present) Pilgrims Hotel near the Mahalakshmi Temple. Now that house has been converted to a hotel and is called the Bayajabai Guest House. Baba would beg for food in both these houses.

Jai Sai Ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Kavitaparna on September 09, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Dear All, Sai Ram

YES, Why and How Love Hurts ??? How can Love hurt and Why ??

Indeed, It will not.

From the above various excerpts from SSC, we can see how beautifully Love can be experienced and made successful.

Let us besmear BABA'S  body with sandle-paste of pure love.

JAI SAI RAM  
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: sureshsarat on September 09, 2007, 10:27:34 PM
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

Life is ever full of twists and turns. It has ups and downs. And we feel happy when things are right and sad when it is bad. But all this is a state of the mind. Despite our knowing this fact, as simple human beings, we succumb to these emotions, of course this is not wrong. But even as feel sad, hurt and dejected we strongly wish to come out of these depressive feelings. Being adamant to get back what we have lost (especially when it is unattainable) will further push us into self pity and self destructive mode. The holy scriptures are full of wisdom and sayings. But these have no effect on our low morale. BUT our dearest Baba has so beautifully explained how we can get out of such situations. AND IT IS NOT REALLY DIFFICULT TO PRACTICE. Be it for love or some thing.  Following is the extract from the SSC.

On fully believing in Baba's words, he left Shirdi and came to Vile Parle (a suburb of
Bombay), and stayed with Kakasaheb Dixit. There the next day, when Das Ganu was
enjoying his morning nap (some say when he was engaged in worship), he heard a poor
girl singing a beautiful song in clear and melodious tones. The subject matter of the song
was a crimson coloured Sari, how nice it was, how fine was its embroidery, how beautiful
were its ends and borders etc. He liked the song so much that he came out, and saw that it
was being sung by a young girl, the sister of Namya, who was a servant of Kakasaheb.
The girl was cleaning vessels, and had only a torn rag on her person. On seeing her
impoverished condition, and her jovial temperament, Das Ganu felt pity for her and when
Rao Bahadur M.V.Pradhan next day gave him a pair of dhotars, he requested him to give
a sari to the poor little girl also. Rao Bahadur bought a good Chirdi (small Sari) and
presented it to her. Like a starving person getting luckily good dishes to eat, her joy knew
to bounds. Next day she wore the new Sari, and out of great joy and merriment, whirled,
danced round and played `Fugadi' with other girls and excelled them all. The Day
following, she kept the new Sari in her box at home and came with the old and torn rags,
but she looked as merry as she did the previous day. On seeing this, Das Ganu's pity was
transferred into admiration. He thought that the girl being poor had to wear a torn rag, but
now she had a new Sari which she kept in reserve and putting on the old rag, strutted
herself, showing no trace of sorrow or dejection. Thus he realized that all our feelings of
pain and pleasure depend upon the attitude of our mind. On thinking deeply over this
incident, he realized that a man ought to enjoy whatever God has bestowed on him in the
firm conviction that He besets every thing, from behind and before, and on all sides and
that whatever is bestowed on him by God must be for his good.

It is clear here. That happiness and sorrow are just 2 states of the mind. The same has been mentioned it the scriptures in one liners and parables, which we cannot understand or accept. Like "what has been yours that you feel sorrow , what will be yours tomorrow "

Can we just say "unreachable grapes are sour" and forget the issue .....


Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: SaiKaKaran on September 10, 2007, 12:22:24 AM
Dear Sai Devotees,

Maine abhi aap sab ki posts padi. Kuch messages ne  mujhe bahut kuch sikhaya.

Pyaar agar sacche dil se aur puri shradha se kiya jaaye, to wo, jisse hum pyaar karte hai, hume zaroor milta hai.....

Love is beautiful, because God is beautiful.....

...And every devotee in this forum has his own beautiful thoughts! May Baba bless you all!

sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai

Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: mainhoonsaibeti on September 10, 2007, 01:03:54 AM
Dear Sai Devotees,

Maine abhi aap sab ki posts padi. Kuch messages ne  mujhe bahut kuch sikhaya.

Pyaar agar sacche dil se aur puri shradha se kiya jaaye, to wo, jisse hum pyaar karte hai, hume zaroor milta hai.....

Love is beautiful, because God is beautiful.....

...And every devotee in this forum has his own beautiful thoughts! May Baba bless you all!

sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai
sai sai sai



jai sai ram
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: MANAV_NEHA on August 14, 2008, 02:29:06 PM
JAI SAI RAM
Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Dipika on February 04, 2012, 11:35:48 AM
OM SRI SAI RAM

Bayajabai served Baba thus with great love and unswerving devotion for a long time. We are unfortunate that no written record is available to us of what Baba taught Bayajabai or what divine experiences he gave her. One incident is, however, available to us about Bayajabai from the reminiscences of Tatya Patil.

Tatya's words :

"Once Radhakrishna Ayi decided to go on a pilgrimage to Pandaripur from Shirdi by foot. Bala Shimpi and Madhav Fasle also started along with her. They wanted to take part in the festival which would be held at Pandaripur on the eleventh (ekadasi) day of the month of Ashaad. My mother (Bayajabai), a few others, and I too decided to go to Pandaripur to take part in the festival. As Radhakrishna Ayi and her group had already left, we decided to go by cart as far as Ahmednagar and catch up with them, after which we could all proceed further by foot. My mother, my brother-in-law, Lakshmibai Shinde and a few other ladies all got ready for the trip.

Before starting, we all went to the mosque to have the darshan of Baba and take his blessings for the trip. Baba blessed us and gave udi to each of us. Three carts packed with our stuff were standing ready under the tree at the village well. I went and broke a coconut at the Maruti temple so that our trip would go well without any problems, and later went to the temple of Saturn. About fifty villagers were standing at the village well to bid us farewell. While I was on my way to the temple of Saturn, I was surprised to see Baba standing where the Samadhi Mandir is at present. I broke a coconut at the temple of Saturn and came out. As I was coming out of the temple, Kondya, a Muslim devotee of Baba, came and told me that Baba was calling me. I went to Baba. He took me to the mosque. Some of the villagers who had come to bid us goodbye came with me to the mosque while the others stayed on at the well. I sat beside the railing at the mosque while Madhavrao Deshpande (Shama) sat opposite me. Madhavrao lit the pipe and gave it to Baba. Baba sat smoking. All were quiet. After a while Madhavrao said, "Deva (Oh, God) your Bayajabai and the others are all waiting for him to come so that they can go to Pandaripur. "Call Bayajabai," replied Baba.

My mother hurried in and said, " Baba, have you sent for me? The sun has set and the dusk is deepening. We are all ready to start."

Baba placidly said, "Mother, go home. Do not start today. Do not even start tomorrow. Start the day after tomorrow. Do not ask why. Do not consult anyone in this matter. Here, take this udi and go."

My mother did not hesitate a second or even take time to think. She said, "Alright Baba, we will go the day after as you say." We unloaded the carts and sent them off. Later, Madhavrao saw the astrological calendar and charts and said that the day was not an auspicious one for travel.

On the morning of the third day, we again got ready to travel. Baba cheerfully gave udi to each of us and came as far as the highway to see us off. We met Radhakrishna Ayi's group by nine a.m. We reached Pandaripur by the evening of the next day. Cholera struck Pandaripur by the eleventh day of the waxing moon and by the next day was raging throughout the town. Some of us wanted to leave immediately for Shirdi but I was adamant that we should stay till the day of the full moon. My mother was also scared. She met the mamalatdar, Sri Nana Saheb Chandorkar, who was an ardent devotee of Baba, and asked him to convince me to return to Shirdi. Nana Saheb sent for Bala Shimpi and me and advised us to return immediately to Shirdi. Baba knew that cholera would ravage Pandaripur, but seeing our enthusiasm for the trip could not forbid us to go to Pandaripur."

JAI SRI SAI RAM


Title: Re: Why Love hurts??!!
Post by: Pooja Sharma on March 02, 2012, 04:41:43 AM
sai ram nimmi g ....

mera man-na b yahi jo sacha pyar hota hai wo humesha dosti se shuru hota hai kyunki dosti mein hm ek dusre ko samjte hai aur agar hum ek dusre ko samjte hai toh wahi true lovers ho sakte hai aur aagey future mein wo humesha ache frnd,lover,husband/wife ban sakte hai....aaj k time mein mostly log phle pyar karte hai fir samjte hai toh issi wajah se breakups ho rhe hai,divorce ho rhe hai....

haan aaj ka time aisa hai ki sabi working hai duniya advance ho gyi hai aur jo log commited hote hai unka b apna friend circle hota hai par friend circle uss tarah ka hona chahiye jo plbm mein sath de.chlte firte toh hme bhut log mil jate hai par hm har kisi ko dosti ka naam nhi de sakte hai na...aur true love ki feelings b hmare ander har kisi k liye nhi aa sakti hai....

baaki duniya bhut badi hai,alag tarah k log hai sabki apni soch hai....par sach toh ek he hai.....sache pyar ka matlab wahi jaan sakta hai jisne sacha pyar kiya hai bina swarth k.....
pyar ka matlab attraction,attachment,infatuation gumna firna,daily phone par baat karna ya milna nahi hota hai....yeh sab pyar k part hai pyar nahi hota hai.....

pyar ka matlab hai understanding agar understanding hai toh yeh apne aap he develop hongi ....

mera man-na sahi hai ya nahi ??
jrur post karna..

sai ram
Allah Malik