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The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
« on: July 25, 2009, 07:02:36 PM »
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    - Better indeed is knowledge than mechanical practice. Better than knowledge is meditation. But better still is surrender of attachment to results, because there follows immediate peace.

    - Neither in this world nor elsewhere is there any happiness in store for him who always doubts.

    - Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.

    - Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

    - The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice.

    - There has never been a time when you and I have not existed, nor will there be a time when we will cease to exist. As the same person inhabits the body through childhood, youth, and old age, so too at the time of death he attains another body. The wise are not deluded by these changes.

    - Those who eat too much or eat too little, who sleep too much or sleep too little, will not succeed in meditation. But those who are temperate in eating and sleeping, work and recreation, will come to the end of sorrow through meditation.

    - Still your mind in me, still yourself in me, and without a doubt you shall be united with me, Lord of Love, dwelling in your heart.

    - The soul who meditates on the Self is content to serve the Self and rests satisfied within the Self; there remains nothing more for him to accomplish.

    - Fear Not. What is not real, never was and never will be. What is real, always was and cannot be destroyed.

    - Not by refraining from action does man attain freedom from action. Not by mere renunciation does he attain supreme perfection.

    - Action is greater than inaction. Perform therefore thy task in life. Even the life of the body could not be if there were no action.

    - When the sage climbs the heights of Yoga, he follows the path of work; but when he reaches the heights of Yoga, he is in the land of peace.

    - Whenever the mind unsteady and restless strays away from the spirit, let him ever and for ever lead it again to the spirit.

    - No work stains a man who is pure, who is in harmony, who is master of his life, whose soul is one with the soul of all.
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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 01:06:08 AM »
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  • Bhagavad Gita Quotes

    - “Fear not what is not real, never was and never will be. What is real, always was and cannot be destroyed.”

    - “Better indeed is knowledge than mechanical practice. Better than knowledge is meditation. But better still is surrender of attachment to results, because there follows immediate peace.”

    - “Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.”

    - “The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice.”

    - “Little by little, through patience and repeated effort, the mind will become stilled in the Self.”

    - “Hell has three gates: lust, anger, and greed”

    - “People will talk about your disgrace forever. To the honored, dishonor is worse than death.”

    - “The faith of each is in accordance with one's own nature.”

    - “Death is as sure for that which is born, as birth is for that which is dead. Therefore grieve not for what is inevitable.”

    - "No matter what conditions you encounter in life, your right is only to the works--not to the fruits thereof. You should not be impelled to act for selfish reasons, nor should you be attached to inaction."

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 07:03:07 PM »
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  • "just as the lotus,born under the water rises up and blossoms above the water even so is the man who is engaged in the activities of the world,giving up all the fruit of his activities unto the lord"(Gita.V.10)

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »
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  •  BHAGAWAD GITA SIMPLIFIED...



    Why do you worry without cause?
    Whom do you fear without reason?
    Who can kill you?
    The soul is neither born, nor does it die.
    Whatever happened,
    happened for the good;
    whatever is happening,
    is happening for the good;
    whatever will happen,
    will also happen for the good only.

    You need not have any regrets for the past.
    You need not worry for the future.
    The present is happening...
    What did you lose that you cry about?
    What did you bring with you,
    which you think you have lost?

    What did you produce,
    which you think got destroyed?
    You did not bring anything,
    whatever you have, you received from here.
    Whatever you have given, you have given only here.
    Whatever you took, you took from God.
    Whatever you gave, you gave to Him.
    You came empty handed,
    you will leave empty handed.

    What is yours today,
    belonged to someone else yesterday, and
    will belong to someone else the
    day after tomorrow.
    You are mistakenly enjoying the thought
    that this is yours.
    It is this false happiness that is
    the cause of your sorrows.

    Change is the law of the universe.
    What you think of as death,
    is indeed life.
    In one instance you can be
    a millionaire, and
    in the other instance you can
    be steeped
    in poverty.

    Yours and mine, big & small
    erase these ideas from your mind.
    Then everything is yours and
    you belong to everyone.
    This body is not yours,
    neither are you of the body.
    The body is made of fire, water, air, earth and
    ether, and will disappear into these elements.
    But the soul is permanent - so who are you?

    Dedicate your being to God.
    He is the one to be ultimately relied upon.
    Those who know of his support are forever
    free from fear, worry and sorrow.
    Whatever you do,
    do it as a dedication to God.
    This will bring you the
    tremendous experience of
    joy and life-freedom forever.

    « Last Edit: August 22, 2009, 08:21:31 PM by dinksma »

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 01:14:17 AM »
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  • Thankyou for the post. Bhagvat Gita is great because it exposes the illusion in which we live completely.

    The very fact that "I am somebody" is an illusion. then what to talk of other things ??

    Yours and mine, big & small
    erase these ideas from your mind.
    Then everything is yours and
    you belong to everyone.


    Now, the Guru will give you practical experience of the above verses. Generally we carry a feeling that I am somebody, somebody different from the others. all our actions are based on this feeling. Hence while dealing we always think of gain & loss (ego-affection/I-mine). The GURU has to wipeeeeeeeee of this feeling. Then you understand that you are everybody & everything.

    Om Sai Ram


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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 08:29:04 PM »
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  • once we get rid of 'Ego'-i am consciousness, we came to understand everything slowly. by guru's grace we can reach this state..thanks

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
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  • "Whoever offers me with devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit or some water-that gift of love,made by the pure minded,I accept"-Bhavad Gita ,1X.26

    "In whatever way men worship me,The Divine,in the same way do I fulfill their desires".-Bhavad Gita.1V,11.
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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 04:42:06 AM »
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  • Yes, The Lord further says that the leaf, the flower, the fruit or the water is only a bahaana which enables me to exchange love with my devotee. Actually i love my devotee very much

    Om Sai Ram

    "Whoever offers me with devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit or some water-that gift of love,made by the pure minded,I accept"-Bhavad Gita ,1X.26

    "In whatever way men worship me,The Divine,in the same way do I fulfill their desires".-Bhavad Gita.1V,11.

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 06:21:29 AM »
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  • Wonderful post, Thanks a lot dinksmaji and v2biritji. v2biritji your post on Janeshwari was most beautiful. Can you share the Hindi version or even Marathi version with Hindi translation as I do understand Marathi to an extent (though not full)

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 07:53:43 AM »
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  • Dear bhakta Anupam ji,
    The marathi version was written by Saint Jnaneshwar (God himself) in 12 th century. It is the marathi of that times & it is not easily understood by people of today's times. 

    The Jnaneshwari that i have is this one. http://picasaweb.google.com/vaibhav.birit/JnaneshwariChapter9#

    There are some translations available but then as Sai baba said "I do not want such collected purport of the verse. Give me each word & it's grammatical force". In doing translation, if there is an attempt to take an overall meaning of the verse, then the import is lost. The Import is retained, if each word, it's position in the sentence, it's grammatical force are all retained.

    There is a limited hindi translation at this link http://www.scribd.com/doc/13573452/Jnaneshwari-Gyaneshwari-Hindi-Chapters-17-18

    Om Sai Ram

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
    « Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 07:28:20 PM »
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  • What Is Man from Bhagavad gita

    Man is not a body. The body is just a temporary material container of man. Man is a consciousness (soul), i.e. self-aware energy. The size of the “lump” of consciousness of different people may differ significantly: from tiny “rudimentary” — to cosmic sizes. It depends on two factors: the psychogenetic age (i.e. the age of the soul) and the intensity of efforts made on the spiritual Path.

    Krishna said about correspondence between man and man’s body the following:

    2:18. Only the bodies of the embodied are perishable, but he himself is eternal and indestructible…

    2:19. He who thinks that he can kill and he who thinks that he can be killed are both mistaken. Man can neither kill nor can be killed.

    2:22. As man throws off worn-out clothes and puts on others that are new, so does he throws off worn-out bodies and enters new ones.

    Man, as it was said above, represents the last stage of the evolutionary development of incarnate purusha (minerals — plants — animals — man — God). Man’s task consists in striving to achieve the Divine Perfection. On this path, people go through certain stages, steps. We have considered already one of the schemes of such an ascent. In the Bhagavad Gita two other schemes are presented.

    One of them is a description of the evolution in terms of gunas. That is, there are three gunas: a) tamas — darkness, ignorance, stupidity, coarseness, b) rajas — passionateness, activity, intensive search for one’s place in life, fight for one’s ideals, and so on, and c) sattva — purity, harmony. But, Krishna said, one has to go still higher — higher than sattva, to mergence with God, and this calls for new efforts, new struggle with oneself. One has to keep this in mind, since sattva may turn out to be a trap: it captivates one with its bliss, peculiar to this stage. It “relaxes” one, tempts to abandon further efforts. But to become Brahman (having cognized the Nirvana in Brahman) and then Ishvara, one has to do much.

    However, it is impossible to bypass the sattva guna. It is impossible to merge with God without mastering the qualities inherent to this guna.

    Likewise, it is impossible to bypass the rajas guna, for it is in this guna that man masters such qualities as energy, self-discipline, power.

    There is another scheme of man’s evolutionary advancement in the Bhagavad Gita — the scale of varnas. (Let me stress that this and many other scales are mutually complementary; complex use of them in application to oneself or to others gives a more complete picture).

    According to the scale of varnas, man on the first stage is called shudra. People of this stage are too young in their psychogenesis and able of doing too little. Their task is to learn from others who are more mature evolutionary, helping them in their work.

    The second stage is represented by vaishyas. These are merchants, craftsmen, farmers. Being in this varna implies having a developed intellect for starting creative business activity, because for running a business one needs to have an intellect which is already developed. It is through such activity that the representatives of this varna continue self-development.

    The next varna is represented by kshatriyas. These are people who have ascended still higher in their intellectual development, in being energetic. These are leaders possessing corresponding “broadness” of the mind, corresponding personal power.

    By the way, one can start preparing oneself to this stage of spiritual development since youth by developing personal power and energy. Helpful in this work are physical labor, outdoor competitive sports, dances to rhythmical music. If one does all this without coarse emotional states, if one remembers about God and about the necessity to observe known ethical standards in front of Him, then this can make a good “reserve” for the future spiritual development in mature age. Then it will be necessary to renounce both competitiveness and passionateness. On the contrary, one should come then to calm, harmony, tenderness, wisdom. But this will be based on the foundation of big personal power — i.e. the energy might of the consciousness and intellect.

    The highest varna consists of brahmans, that is spiritual leaders.

    By the way, Brahman is a Sanskrit word which is translated sometimes inadequately — with diverse Sanskrit-like words. Thus, such words appeared as brahmin, Brahma, Brahmo, Brama. But in Sanskrit there is one word denoting both the Consciousness of Brahman and a person who has attained the Nirvana in Brahman.

    It became historically established in India to hand down the varna membership by inheritance. Thus, it is quite obvious that not all people who assign themselves to the highest varna have high spiritual achievements.

    But let us come back to the problem of self-development.

    Let me cite some words of Krishna on how to choose the adequate methods of work on oneself — that is those which are in accordance with the real stages of psychogenesis and ontogenesis.

    12:8. Direct your thoughts to Me, submerge yourself as a consciousness into Me — verily, then you will live in Me…

    12:9. But if you are not able to fix your thoughts steadily on Me — try to reach Me by practicing yoga…

    12:10. If you are not capable of doing constantly yoga exercises, then dedicate yourself to serving Me, performing only those actions which are needful to Me — then you will reach Perfection!

    12:11. If you are not able of doing even this, then seek the Mergence with Me by renouncing the personal profit of your activity; restrain yourself in this way.

    Who of us are capable of fulfilling the first recommendation?…

    This means we can try the second one, i.e. the yoga exercises…

    However, not everyone is capable of performing them successfully…

    In such a case, said Krishna, pave your way to God through karma yoga, i.e. the activity dedicated to God, and not to yourself. The activity devoid of egoistic, selfish component is karma yoga.

    It is also essential to indicate what great importance Krishna attached to the intellectual development of people on the spiritual Path.

    This appears to be especially important due to the fact that there are many schools denying the importance of intellectual development — up to opposing the traditional education of children.

    This point of view was expressed by Rajneesh in the early period of his preaching activity. He put it this way: your intellects, he said, are inherent to your brains, but your brains will perish along with your bodies, so one should be concerned only with that which is eternal — that is the consciousness. These are his early teachings. Later on, he abandoned such views and held the opinion that the highest spiritual achievements are possible only for the one who has mastered wisdom.

    However, today there are sects fighting against mind. Some of their adherents believe that insanity is the norm in the development on the religious path.

    But Krishna exalted Wisdom:

    4:33. Superior to all outer sacrifices is the sacrifice of wisdom… All actions… become perfect when they are performed by the wise.

    4:34. Therefore, gain wisdom through devotion, inquiry, and service…

    4:37. As fire turns fuel into ashes, so does the fire of wisdom burns all false actions to ashes.

    4:38. There is no purifier better than wisdom in this world. Through it the one skilled in yoga attains Enlightenment in the Atman in due course.

    4:39. The one full of faith gains wisdom. The one controlling his indriyas gains it too. Having achieved wisdom, they quickly attain the higher worlds.

    7:16. There are four types of righteous men worshipping Me…: desiring to free themselves from suffering, aspiring to knowledge, seeking personal achievements, and the wise.

    (It follows from the last words of Krishna that: first, any active person who is not of demonic nature, i.e. not indulging in coarse vices, is a righteous one. Second, the representatives of the first three mentioned groups are not wise yet: the wise are an independent group of a higher level. Those striving to break away from suffering, those thirsting for knowledge, and those striving for personal achievements on the stage of rajas — they are not wise yet).

    7:17. … Superior to the others is the wise, even-minded and devoted to Me completely. Verily, I am dear to the wise, and he is dear to Me.

    8:28. Studying the Vedas, performing sacrifice, ascetic exploits, and good deeds give one proper fruits. But a yogi possessing the true knowledge is superior to all these; he attains the Supreme Abode.

    So who can be called the wise? — He who has a wide scope of knowledge on the main subjects: about God, about man, about man’s Path to God. This is the basis, the foundation of Wisdom. But it is not the Wisdom yet. This is just possession of much knowledge, erudition. Wisdom implies an additional capability of operating the knowledge, the ability to create intellectually.

    How we can develop all this in ourselves? The easiest way is to study in traditional educational institutions: schools, universities… Plus mastering as many skills, professions as possible, communications with people, with God, and many other things. It is essential to go through the stage of grihastha (householder) in full. It is through the service to other people, caring about them — first within one’s family, and then within the “family” of one’s spiritual disciples — that Wisdom can be gained.

    And fool people are not let by the Creator into Himself: He does not need them.
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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
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  • “Be fearless and pure; never waver in your determination or your dedication to the spiritual life. Give freely. Be self-controlled, sincere, truthful, loving, and full of the desire to serve... Learn to be detached and to take joy in renunciation. Do not get angry or harm any living creature, but be compassionate and gentle; show good will to all. Cultivate vigor, patience, will, purity; avoid malice and pride. Then, you will achieve your destiny.” ~ Krishna from The Bhagavad Gita

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  • “Reshape yourself through the power of your will... Those who have conquered themselves... live in peace, alike in cold and heat, pleasure and pain, praise and blame... To such people a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same... Because they are impartial, they rise to great heights.” ~ Krishna from The Bhagavad Gita

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    Re: The Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita
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  • Om Sai Ram,

    Conquering the self......
    It gets a little funny, when we see that the people in the world try to conquer the world (instead of conquering themselves). They try to gain more & more wealth & position for themselves, by extracting every worldly bit. But them ultimately they have to repent. Since they are overtaken by the failing body & death. The Lord in the form of his TIME energy makes fun of all materialistic endeavors.

    The correct path is shown by Saints, by Sai baba. That we need to conquer ourselves i.e. to recognize "Who I am". Now this is an art & only Sai baba can teach it, to those who are in loving devotion to him. Rest are completely fooled by Lord's maya & run after impermanent things.

    Om Sai Ram

     
    “Reshape yourself through the power of your will... Those who have conquered themselves... live in peace, alike in cold and heat, pleasure and pain, praise and blame... To such people a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same... Because they are impartial, they rise to great heights.” ~ Krishna from The Bhagavad Gita

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  • “Be fearless and pure; never waver in your determination or your dedication to the spiritual life. Give freely. Be self-controlled, sincere, truthful, loving, and full of the desire to serve... Learn to be detached and to take joy in renunciation. Do not get angry or harm any living creature, but be compassionate and gentle; show good will to all. Cultivate vigor, patience, will, purity; avoid malice and pride. Then, you will achieve your destiny.”
                                                                                                                   ~ Lord Krishna from The Bhagavad Gita

     


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