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Title: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: raj_balsani on December 31, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
In this world have been born many lakhs even crores of 'Divines' each possessing a degree of divine knowledge incalculable to the next divine. This degree of spirituality, dictates the title we throw at them when we meet them in life. We each on this planet, have our own degree of spirituality, critically none has 0% and on the other extreme none has 100% either. All are somewhere in-between. If a person has 1% of spirituality then they are divine. If they have 99% of spirituality then then too are divine. All the crores of people on this Earth then have a degree of divinity against each other.


But, Only One can be said to be 100% divine and that is the One Unseen Imperishable Unknowable GOD.

All the lakhs crores of divines came to this world as mortal humans, they all died at the end. They possessed a body for Time and when 'time's up was called' their body died and the soul left this world for rebirth at another Time, another Place and another Purpose.


Who created all the worlds religions, faiths and beliefs?

Who created these lakhs of mortal divines? Who created the many mortal immortal gurus, saints, bhagats? Who created the likes of  Vishnu, Shiva & Brahma? Who created Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha the many Sikh Gurus? Who created their wives like Parvati, Sita, Lakhsmi, Swaswati, Kali, Durga, the many other gods?

Who created YOU, your families, your relations, your friends enemies too? Who created your race, culture, traditions your caste, colour and dress? Who created Everything & Anything that exists in body and soul? Who created the animals the vegetation, plants, trees, foliage? Who created the lands, seas, the winds, the fires and the uncountable Universes? Who created the galaxies, the many things that stand in place in the Milky Way?


None other than this One Unseen Almighty God !!!!!

Why praise any other mortal divine, saint, guru, bhagat or others? Why make a 'star' out of someone who must die, just like YOU will one day?

Their is no religion, faith or belief HIGHER than the "direct praise and sermon of this One Unseen God". This is the True Way and the only reason for human existence....to find this One Unseen God and praise HIM Only, None Other.

Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: saib on January 01, 2010, 03:24:02 AM
Their is no religion, faith or belief HIGHER than the "direct praise and sermon of this One Unseen God". This is the True Way and the only reason for human existence....to find this One Unseen God and praise HIM Only, None Other.

Great Idea. But only those who are spiritually blessed can go on this path. Others Need Guru, in mortal (mostly) or knowledge Form!

There are some Giant corporations like Microsoft, Reliance, Tata etc. Lets see Tata, a group of more than 100 companies, if each and every employee start approaching Mr. Ratan Tata for all small and Big issues, Then what will be left for such a giant force of GM’s, AGM’s, VP’s, Hundreds of Managers. If there is small operational issue, lots of officers are there to handle, Mr. Ratan Tata is supposed to be in strategic decisions and not for small break downs of machinery to appointment of a Junior officers, such operational and administrative issues.

Now Just think Big, If Mr. Ratan Tata is not supposed to interact with some thousands or Lakhs of employees. (Impossible for a Human in normal conditions) How We Can think God, who is handling infinite number of planets, with infinite numbers of creatures in different forms can be approached by all. (He Can, But Why should, Then what purpose will left of this all existence of Mankind and other life forms, their Karmas.......) Although Thy technology is much more advance, Like in good tech savvy company all machines are connected to central server, so anytime can know status of machine, Many Times It happened IT Admin knows who is chatting on system, Who is just playing on line card games, Who is on web mails etc. etc. (Poor users usually don’t know that there each activity is being monitored and recorded), In God World, CFO Chitrgupt (Or can take a different system, whatsoever like) take care of all such records. Same at par what Bible Says. People keep on committing Sins without even thinking that their each and every act is being monitored.

To Get promotion there are two ways, Do Good i.e. deliver excellent result (In Politics of office, some times might be difficult, But if are good, than opportunity itself will find you for some other Senior Place in other company) or wait for time, after every three or five years as per company’s policy get promotion.

If Do Good Karmas, God Contact thyself  through any source (God can not be contacted, Invisible, Can not be seen, so how can be found).

Why We Praise Sai Baba or other Gurus. Interesting. When We Praise, Our Heart gets attached emotionally with that strongest form of Lord and gets healed. Like charging a mobile set. We Praise for our own benefit. What makes difference to him whom whole universe is praising. We are not more than bubble of water, Today exist, tomorrow disappears. Don’t know what breath will become the last breath.

In my Life, I have seen and listen only two (Might be more) excellent praise for God. One is in the form of Aarti compiled with divine words of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Ravi Dass Ji, Kabeer Ji,  Sant Sainji, Sri Dhanaji and Guru Gibind Singh Ji.

It is what I think. Guru is must to know to concentrate mind and spirit to God. Unseen God can not be known without the knowledge given by Guru or God or being life Transformed. Might agree or might not. God ki kahani to God hi jane. Hum to sirf ek andaja hi laga sakte hai.

Jai Sai Ram!

Aarti (Source: www. sahej. com)

The Aarti

Gagan mah thaal, Rav-chand Deepak baney
Taarka mandal Janak Moti
Dhoop maliaanlo Pavan chavaro karey
Sagal Banrai phoolant jyoti

Which means:
The Sky is Your platter,
The sun and moon are the ‘Deepaks’ the lamps (lights),
The Stars in the sky are the pearls,
The ‘Dhoop’ (Incense) is the fragrance,
That the wind propels,
The whole forest is Your flowers.

Kaisee Aarti hoi Bhaykandana Teree Aarti
Anhata Shabad Vajanta bheree

Which means:
O! What a wonderful Aarti, this is!
You, are a destroyer of Fear,
The sound of Your Name, which is so subtle, that It goes unheard,
Resounds endlessly.

Sahas Tav Nain na na
Nain hai Tohey kau
Sahas moorat Nana Ik Tohee
Sahas Pad Bimal Na na
Ik Pad Gandh bin
Sahas Tav Gandh Iv
Chalat Mohee
Sabh Mah Jot Jot Hai Sohee
Tis Dat Chaanan Sabh Mah Chaanan Hoi
Gur Sakhi Jot Pragat Hoi
Jo Tis Bhaavey So Aarti Hoi

Which means:
You have a thousand eyes, forms, feet, noses…And you have none…
I am charmed!
Your Light enlightens all!
It is by the Grace of the Guru that the real Light (Knowledge) Manifests.
What pleases the Almighty is this Aarti (Creation)

Har Charan Kamal Makrand Lobhit Mano
Ana Din Mohey Aayey Pyaasa
Kirpaa Jal Dey Nanak Sarang Kau
Hoi Jaatey Terey nai Vaasa

Which means:
I yearn for Your Lotus feet,
Night and day,
Nanak is like the thirsty bird that asks,
For a drop of water,
From You O Lord!
That drop (Grace) will make Nanak find comfort,
In the uttering of Your Name.

(The next part of the Aarti is a composition by Sri Ravidasji)

Naam Tero Aarti Majan Muraarey
Har Kay Naam Bina Joothey Sagal Pasaarey
Naam Tero Aasno Naam Tero Ursaa
Naam Tero Kesro Lay Chhitkaarey
Naam Tera Ambhula Naam Tero Chandno
Ghas Japey Naam Lay Tujahee Kau Chaarey
Naam Tera Deeva Naam Tera Baatee
Naam Tero Tel Lai , Maahee Pasaarey
Naam Terey Kee Jyot Lagaayee
Bhaiyaa Ujiyaaro Bhavan Saglaarey
Naam Teraa Taagaa Naam Phul Maalaa
Bhaar Athaarah Sagala Joothaarey
Tero Keeyaa Tujhahee kyaa arpau
Naam Tera Tuhee Chavar Dhulaarey
Das Atha Atha Sathey Chaarey Khaanee
Ehay Vartan Hai Sagal Sansaare
Kahay Ravdaas Naam Tero Aartee
Sat Naam Har Bhog Tuhaarey

Sant Ravidasji says that:
O Lord, Your name is the Aarti,
Your name is the Flower, the saffron, and the sandalwood
That is offered to You.
Your Name is the (Deeya)
The Lamp, the oil and the cotton
That is lighted in it.
With the Light that Your Name gives out,
The whole world is brightened.
Your Name is the Thread and Your Name is also
The Flowers that are strung into that thread.
All that I offer to You is Yours.
Your Name is the flywhisk, that you use,
The (Chant of Your) True Name,
We offer to You,
All is false except Your Name!

(The following part of the Aarti is composed by Sant Sainji)

Dhoop Deep Dhrit Saaj Aartee
Vaarney Jaau Kamlapati
Mangalaa Har Mangalaa
Nit Mangal Raaja Raam Raaiko
Uttam Deeyaraa Nirmal Baatee
Toohee Niranjana Kamlaapati
Raam Bhagat Raamaananda Jaaney
Pooran Paramaananda Bakhaaney
Madana Moorata Bhay Taarey Govindey
Sain Bhanay Bhaj Paramaananda

The Aarti is adorned by the lighted lamp
And the fragrance of the incense.
All is Auspicious.
Thou art the Supreme and Pure Light.
Thou art the Lord of the Goddess of Wealth.
My obeisance to Thee.
And to the Lord Rama, Beautiful Govinda,
Who is described as Replete Pure Bliss!
Sain prays to Thee, Who obliterates all Fear.

(The following part is composed by Sant Kabir)

Sun Sandhyaa Teree Dev Devaakar
AdhPati Aadee Samaayee
Sidh Samaadhee
Anta Naheen Paayaa
Laagee Rahey Sarnaayee
Leho Aartee Ho Purakh Niranjan
Satguru Poojo Bhaai
Thaada Brahmaa Nigam Bichaarey
Alakh Na Lakhiyaa Jaayee
Tat Tel Naam Keeyaa Baatee
Deepak Deh Ujiyaaraa
Jyot Laayee Jagadeesha Jagaaiyaa
Boojhey Boojhana Haaraa
Panchey Sabada Anaahada Baajey
Sangey Saaringa Paanee
Kabeer Daas Teree Aartee Keenee
Nirankaar Nirbaanee

Which means:
Dear Lord!
The Greatest of Yogis have not been able to comprehend You,
Those who worship the Unmanifest,
Fail to realize You.
Even though they have persevered in their quest.
Your Name resounds unheard (By the worldly)
And only He can hear (On who Your Grace descends)
Pray to Your satguru!
Almighty Lord!
Accept the Aarti, with the oil, Lit with the Chant of Your Name,
By You, the Lord of the Universe!
Kabirdas performs the Aarti of the ‘Beyond Description’ and the ‘Without Form’

(The following part is composed by Sri Dhanaji)

Gopaal Teraa Aartaa
Jo Jan Teree Bhagat Karantey
Tin Key Kaaj Sanvaartaa
Dal Seedhaa Maangau Ghee
Hamraa Khusee Karey Nit Jee
Pania Chaadan Neekaa
Anaaj Maangau
Gau Bhais Maangau Laaveree
Ik Taajana Turee Changeree
Ghar Kee Geehanee Changee
Jan Dhanaa Levey Mangee
Gopaal Tera Aartaa
Hey Dayaal Teraa Aartaa

Which means:
O Gopaala, (Accept) your Aarti!
You grant the wishes of those who worship You!
I ask for my basic sustenance (food, oil, lentils, good quality grains)
Which makes me feel fulfilled.
I also pray for a good wife, good clothes, good grain, a horse, a cow…

The following has been composed by ‘Daswin Patshaahi, The 10th Guru: Gobind Singh Maharaj.

Yaa Tey Prasann
Bhayey Hain Mahaa Muni
Devan Key Tap Mein Sukh Paavey
Jag Karey Ik Ved Rarey
Bhav Taap Harey
Mili Dhyaan Hi Laavey
Jhaalar Taal Mrudanga Upanga
Rabaab Leeyey
Sur Saaj milaavey
Kinnar Gandharva Gaana Karey
Gani Jachha Upachhara Nirata Dikhaavey
Sankhana kee Dhunee Ghantan kee Kari
Phoolan Kee Barkhaa Barsaavey
Aartee Kot Karey Sur Sunder
Pekh Purandar Key Bali Jaavey
Daanatee Dachhan Dey Key Pradachhan
Bhaal Mein Kum Kum Achhan Laavey
Hot Kulaahal DevPuree mil Devan KeyKuli Mangal Gaavey
Aisey Chand Partaap Tey Devan Badhyo Prataap
Teen Lok Jai Jai Karey Rarei Naam Sat Jaap

It means:
The Lord is pleased by the penance, prayers, rituals recitation of the Scriptures, Meditation, music, dance of the
Celestial Beings, adorned with vermilion, various musical instruments, Ringing of bells and the showering of
flowers, and the tune of the Aarti . The cosmic worlds rejoice and chant the Divine Name.  


Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: raj_balsani on January 01, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
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Great Idea. But only those who are spiritually blessed can go on this path. Others Need Guru, in mortal (mostly) or knowledge Form!

The answer you have given apply to yourself first, 'those who are blessed can go on this path'.

When you will receive blessing from a True Guru then you will go on the True Pathway. Till, then you will praise, follow and believe many false gurus. Such is life....

All the companies of world live of the 'blood' of their workers. Guru Nanak showed the world what 'pure kirit kamai' is when he took bread made yesterday in one hand from Bhai Lalo's house and Malik Bhago's bandars food in the other. One poured blood the other milk (http://sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhai_Lalo%27s_honesty).
All those who live of the 'blood' of others are going to perish into dust, destroyed by who else, but the disease of Death.

A True Guru is the key to being blessed. A True Guru takes no praise at all, they praise & sermon the One Unseen God Only. The false ones take the divine scriptures left behind by such True Guru's make themselves, false gurus. They acquire, mix and match divine scriptures from a 'number of religions' and setup their own as a 'separate new religion'.

Seek a True Guru then and get blessed. Till then you will live lost in crores of divine words....water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink !!




Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: saib on January 01, 2010, 09:39:06 PM
Dear, Again agree with you, But in just different Style. :)

Guru is important or not. No doubt, it is, because only Guru can handover the key to open the lock of God’s House. and in most of the cases this Lock is “Ego”.

Now, All depends upon, Whom one accepts as Guru. True Guru works as a Path, where one can walk towards God, where as False Worldly Guru’s pretends to be God or God’s Agent. They become the destination. Would like to see their gungan (Praise and admiration) everywhere, specially from rich and ministers or famous personality. In every era, you can find many such Guru’s. But, to go to true Guru is only reward of good karmas. and this is not a disciple who finds a True Guru, It is always Guru who finds disciple and transforms his life.

Importance of True Guru is from very beginning. From Hinduism to Buddhism and then to Sikhism. Almost all religions and cultures believe in the transformation process by a True master to his pure disciple.

We just have doubt, because today we try to avoid approaching Guru. We want direct God, because to stay under Guru is very tough. We approach Sai for fulfillment of our wishes. and not for gaining some knowledge. Not to accept him our master, But as God. Test of Guru is more often tougher then Tests of God, whether it was Angulimal or Anand before Buddha or Bhai Lehna Ji (Later known as Guru Angad dev Ji) before Guru Nanak Dev Ji.

Out of definition of Guru, extract:

Guru Nanak, founder of the Sikh religion said: "Even if a thousand suns and moons rose, they would be unable to remove the darkness of ignorance within the heart. This can only be removed through the grace of the Guru."

Complete info is at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru

Seek a True Guru then and get blessed.

My True Guru, If after coming to Sai (Only as per wish of Sai, duly approved), any one moves, Then no one in the universe can satisfy him.

at last, When I am saying True Guru, It is not necessary, always in mortal human form, Can be beyond that. Text of a holy Book too. Wait for the perfect answer. You are very near. I have never seen such co-incidences happening again and again. Here is today’s Hukumnama from Darbar Sahib:


SORAT’H, FIFTH MEHL:

Enshrine the Naam, the Name of the Lord, within your heart; sitting within your own home, meditate on the Guru. The Perfect Guru has spoken the Truth; the True Peace is obtained only from the Lord. || 1 || My Guru has become merciful. In bliss, peace, pleasure and joy, I have returned to my own home, after my purifying bath. || Pause || True is the glorious greatness of the Guru; His worth cannot be described. He is the Supreme Overlord of kings. Meeting with the Guru, the mind is enraptured. || 2 || All sins are washed away, meeting with the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. The Lord’s Name is the treasure of excellence; chanting it, one’s affairs are perfectly resolved. || 3 || The Guru has opened the door of liberation, and the entire world applauds Him with cheers of victory. O Nanak, God is always with me; my fears of birth and death are gone. || 4 || 2 || 52 ||

You might have Read before, But if possible again Read Japji and Sukhmani Sahib (With Good Meaning Book), and Sai Satcharitra to get what Baba want's to say by conducting so many Leelas.

May Sai Bless You!

All is Sai! Sai is All!

om sri sai ram!
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: Dipika on January 01, 2010, 11:56:46 PM
OMSAIRAM!We are all in this Sai Forum because of our Guru's grace and God.

God has agents everywhere.

Guru brings you closer to God.

As we all need a guide on the way,likewise we need a Guru to show us the way and help us in crossing this bhavsagar.

We are all Sai devotees and are in this Sai Mandir for praising our Guru Sai baba and God.

 Even if Shri Vishnu or shri Shiva is angry  with his devotee, Shri Guru can surely protect him. But if Shri Guru is enraged, even Shri Vishnu or Shiva cannot protect him.

quote from Shri Guru Charitra


so why don't we all  praise Guru and God instead of getting into discussions.. ;D...we are losing precious moments of life

This forum clearly says that it is Spiritural forum....share ur experiences....:)...help all of us in our Spiritual journey by singing Guru's and God's  leelas ...:)

God bless u

Sai baba let your holy lotus feet be our sole refuge.OMSAIRAM




Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: gomisuchi on January 02, 2010, 12:08:58 AM
i agree with saib ji and dipika ji completely here.

if i may quote something that i once read in ssc

devotee: baba where to go

baba: up there

devotee: which is the path that leads there

baba: there are many paths, there is one from shirdi too

devotee: but there are many hindrances on the way

baba: if u take a guide with u then there is no problem. he has already travelled that road many a times, he will guide u, u can avoid the hindrances.

Mr. Raj, nobody denied that the supreme unseen lord is the highest power, even saints themelsves say that. but u cannot reach or attain that supreme lord with out the grace of a guru. this was told by lord shiva in the guru gita, not by me.

the guru sets u on the path of salvation and self realisation.. once ur set on the path.. the journey is urs to make, in order to attain that unseen form.

gurus are only mediums or helpers in acheiving that. i challenge any human to comr and tell me they have attained or achieved it without the help or a guru or saint or any help at all.

mr. raj.. have u had any god vision.. or any such thing directly from that unseen form???!!!

U MOCK UR OWN KNOWLEDGE DEAR.
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: raj_balsani on January 04, 2010, 09:06:23 AM
Gomi....
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Mr. Raj, nobody denied that the supreme unseen lord is the highest power, even saints themelsves say that. but u cannot reach or attain that supreme lord with out the grace of a guru. this was told by lord shiva in the guru gita, not by me. the guru sets u on the path of salvation and self realisation.. once ur set on the path.. the journey is urs to make, in order to attain that unseen form. gurus are only mediums or helpers in acheiving that. i challenge any human to comr and tell me they have attained or achieved it without the help or a guru or saint or any help at all.

mr. raj.. have u had any god vision.. or any such thing directly from that unseen form???!!!

U MOCK UR OWN KNOWLEDGE DEAR.


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i challenge any human to comr and tell me they have attained or achieved it without the help or a guru or saint or any help at all.

challenge accepted...no guru of any kind have the power or the authority to make judgments, give divine scripture or guidance. A guru serves that Unseen One God & is under His Command & Order. He cannot under any circumstance make that decision to bring salvation into anyone's life or soul.

If the guru started making decisions and judgments over who gets salvation or immortality then why he or anyone else, need a God then???

You seem to be professing that guru is ultimate, he is not. To the contrary the guru has no power at all whatsoever to grant anyone anything. Sadly for me, you and lakhs, crores that One God Personally, without any need of a guru sant or other, wrote a Kismat for each single human that exists and lives, which is Unchangeable and Unalterable. No guru of any kind even can change that....me sure 100%.

Finally, who gives guru salvation and immortality, that One Unseen God Only no other. Guru cant give himself salvation and immortality....that's madness of the highest degree !!!.....see the bulb shining above your head now !!! :)

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mr. raj.. have u had any god vision.. or any such thing directly from that unseen form???!!!
Well, at least you are now claiming rightly that the form is 'Unseen'. Then how can anyone 'see' the Unseen?? That's making the impossible possible !!!! Back to the drawing board for you my friend....

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U MOCK UR OWN KNOWLEDGE DEAR.
One can only claim that if they already know what Ive written before I wrote it...you cant do that for sure. And, who says what I wrote is totally right, am human full of mistakes and errors, can easily screw up.



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God has agents everywhere. Guru brings you closer to God. As we all need a guide on the way,likewise we need a Guru to show us the way and help us in crossing this bhavsagar. We are all Sai devotees and are in this Sai Mandir for praising our Guru Sai baba and God.
I refer you to the answer I gave above & I don't praise or serve any guru, they are 'borrow' religious material from here there and everywhere & r false gurus.

You, me anyone could read & borrow some religious text or scripture from the many religions we have in world, then start a new religion and guru today, make lakhs maybe crores of followers. All will end up in Dust just like their false gurus. A True Guru is impossible to find by one own's efforts, schemes, ideas, rituals, faith, belief or customs. The True Guru finds YOU....thats truly divine to know !!!



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Dear, Again agree with you, But in just different Style. Smiley

Guru is important or not. No doubt, it is, because only Guru can handover the key to open the lock of God’s House. and in most of the cases this Lock is “Ego”.

Now, All depends upon, Whom one accepts as Guru. True Guru works as a Path, where one can walk towards God, where as False Worldly Guru’s pretends to be God or God’s Agent. They become the destination. Would like to see their gungan (Praise and admiration) everywhere, specially from rich and ministers or famous personality. In every era, you can find many such Guru’s. But, to go to true Guru is only reward of good karmas. and this is not a disciple who finds a True Guru, It is always Guru who finds disciple and transforms his life.

Importance of True Guru is from very beginning. From Hinduism to Buddhism and then to Sikhism. Almost all religions and cultures believe in the transformation process by a True master to his pure disciple.

We just have doubt, because today we try to avoid approaching Guru. We want direct God, because to stay under Guru is very tough. We approach Sai for fulfillment of our wishes. and not for gaining some knowledge. Not to accept him our master, But as God. Test of Guru is more often tougher then Tests of God, whether it was Angulimal or Anand before Buddha or Bhai Lehna Ji (Later known as Guru Angad dev Ji) before Guru Nanak Dev Ji.

Same answer to you as Ive given above to Gomi...&Dipika.
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: raj_balsani on January 04, 2010, 09:12:35 AM
plz dont reply to me anymore in this post Im leaving the forum and moving on to greener pastures. Enjoy your lives !!! 
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: saib on January 04, 2010, 11:27:11 PM
Raj is not here, So, Please Don’t take it as reply, But a small clarification  :) :

There is not unseen in universe. Because unseen can also be seen with power of imagination, not exactly same, but somewhat near that. As, We can’t see Air, Heat, Smell but feel Yes there is something. Unseen God (as described in energetic form) could not be seen by Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahma in physical form (A leela of God himself )…………..But a simple devotee of Lord, follower of any Guru or following a path of no path can see or feel the presence of that unseen God. This is same as to see electric current you need not to go to any power station, Just on the switch of your room and light is there. Darkness (Ego) vanishes.

So, There are many believes, many paths, but destination is only one. We must firm on our faith instead of wasting time in what others are doing, what are their rituals, Some people dance in temples and going to meet lord, Some are sitting in deep meditation and in search of Lord. All are on their path with time. 

So, Keep on moving with being firm on your faith. Enjoying the name of Sai in whatsoever form you like. God is for All!

All is Sai! Sai is All!

om sri sai ram!
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: gomisuchi on January 05, 2010, 03:38:18 AM
You, me anyone could read & borrow some religious text or scripture from the many religions we have in world, then start a new religion and guru today, make lakhs maybe crores of followers. All will end up in Dust just like their false gurus. A True Guru is impossible to find by one own's efforts, schemes, ideas, rituals, faith, belief or customs. The True Guru finds YOU....thats truly divine to know !!!


saib ji.. the above is a qoute from raj himself. its good he has left this froum cuz he would not have been able to argue with 3 thoiusand sai devotess here. and what he said is 100% coreect. we donot goto sai baba. he calls us himself;. as in my case and many others too. saib ji baba tests us and our faith by sending in ppl like raj. raj is only a medium through whch baba tests us. he only wants to know hch of his devotees stand up for him.. and what we have understood of baba all this time.

we can only be happy that we hopefully passed in babas darbar. ;D
Title: Re: praise/sermon not guru or gurus 'PRAISE THE ONE UNSEEN GOD ONLY" !!
Post by: saib on January 05, 2010, 10:51:28 PM
raj is only a medium through whch baba tests us. he only wants to know hch of his devotees stand up for him.. and what we have understood of baba all this time.

100% agree with you suchi. There is not only one but lots of such Raj one has to face in different phases during his life. Baba keep on testing Faith, Patience, Purity of Mind, Love and devotion for Baba. How much one is committed to Sai, Will his love for Sai will stand if tested against worldly love, Will he be able to moving in life with Unshakable Faith and patience, If desires not fulfilled, Will he respect and accept decision of Sai over his own wish and So on. No matter How much big devotee one claims to be, Just in seconds all truths revealed, But there is one more truth, Sai never conduct such tests to disgrace his devotees, As I used to say but to strengthen them by making them realize about their weaknesses and shortcomings, It is a process of Transformation till one gets Nirvana. Completion of one whole Journey.

All is Sai! Sai is Alll!

om sri sai ram!