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Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
« on: August 14, 2005, 12:02:37 PM »
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  • Ramesh ji / Astrid ji,
    I have read the story in philosophy that Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........that is true.........then how to control that mind i am trying not to say anything back when thoughts are raised while i am in meditation but it is getting harder and harder to keep track of thoughts. I am chanting Sai's name but within no time i loose the concentration........After a minute or so i realise that i am back into my thoughts........do not know when my mind wanders . Please advise on this.

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    « Reply #1 on: August 14, 2005, 01:37:06 PM »
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  • Sai Ram

    Sushma, my dear, nobody's perfect, we're all still learning. It happens to everybody, that thoughts wander off. The point is: don't get angry, don't blame yourself. Remain in that state of consciousness, that state of heart you enter when meditating. Stay with your intention, not with your flaws. This is achieved easiest by simply forgiving yourself. The moment you catch yourself losing concentration, simply call your thoughts back to SAI. Don't think of what was even a fraction of a second ago, think of what is: you are back at your meditation. For a start don't meditate for longer than 5 to 10 minutes at a stretch. If your thoughts wander off a thousand times during these 10 minutes - no problem, call them back 1001 times and forgive yourself. By and by you will be able to remain in your meditative state even if thoughts wander off, and they will even do so less often.

    Hope, this helps you a little. Whether or not it does, however you might feel now or in future - just let us know. It is our special pleasure and blessing to share whatever we might be able to with you and all.

    Om Sai Ram

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    Restless was my heart till it found rest in THEE
    Restless was my heart till it found rest in THEE

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    Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
    « Reply #2 on: August 14, 2005, 02:19:24 PM »
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  • Thank you sister Astrid. I will follow your advice

    Sushma.
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    Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2005, 12:17:22 AM »
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  • JAI SAI RAM!!!

    Sushma dear....Off late I have started loving you....Nice to have you as my sister......Sushma dear by the way since how long you have been doing Meditation? I am just briefly giving you a topic....Please go through it.....may be..... you may get your answer to your question......

    He who is impatient fails; he who is patient is successful. If you hurry, become impatient, it means you have not accepted suffering and are eager to be done with it. In that case you have not understood the glory of suffering. You do not know that as you suffer you are being cleansed and purified and absolved from all that is worthless and useless. You have not recognized suffering as a friend yet. It is only at that point that you attain to self-restraint. He who recognizes suffering as a friend is in no hurry. He can maintain his patience, and God is attained only through patience -- infinite patience. To attain God is not a paltry thing to be instantly attained.

    You plant a seed. Seeds of seasonal plants take two to three weeks to sprout. By the sixth week they begin to flower, and at the end of twelve weeks their life cycle is over. When you plant a cedar tree it lives for one hundred years, or perhaps two, three, or even four hundred years. There are trees in America thousands of years old. They take such a long time to grow that the seed remains under the soil for years before it sprouts.

    The baser pleasures of this life are quickly attainable, but they vanish as quickly. Remember the equation: the quicker attained, the earlier lost. If you want to attain God you will have to practice infinite patience.

    And remember another fact: the more patiently you observe, the earlier you attain.

    The more you rush the later you attain. You are the cause of the delay. Why does this happen? Because the more patient you are, the deeper inside you go. Impatience is characteristic of a shallow person; it is a sign of childishness. When little children plant a mango seed, after an hour they take it out to see whether it has sprouted yet. Then they put it back in the soil. Again they remove it to see whether it has sprouted, and again they return it to the soil. That seed will never sprout.

    You must have noticed the patience and tranquillity of the villager. The city shopkeeper has little patience. The further into the countryside you go, the more peaceful and tranquil they are, because they have learned to be very patient with nature. You plant the seeds today, but you can't gather the harvest tomorrow. Long association with nature and observing the law of patience, and they become tranquil. But he who wishes to reap the harvest of the infinite must sow and toil in the field of God.

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

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    Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2005, 01:07:55 AM »
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  • OM SAI RAM,
    So very apt Ramesh Bhai so very apt.That's why Baba has always asked us for Sharddha and Saburi.
    Jai Sai Ram,
    Sanjiv
     

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    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 10:47:24 AM »
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  • Ramesh Bhai,
       What you have said is right. Actually i wrote this because i wanted to know how you all are meditating and wanted to see if i am in the right track. Wanted to know a better way to shut my mind. Sorry if i've sounded impatient.
        I have started meditating just a week back and got scared seeing my mind wandering. Will surely wait.

    Thank you Ramesh bhai and sister Astrid.

    Sushma.
     

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    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 11:06:11 AM »
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    No sorry! Sushma dear....you are definately on right track....absolutly on right track....it happens in the start...don't worry....just go on doing what you are doing......never ever stop...this is it.....it happens and will continue for many many months.....for many many years.....then only you will know....you will definately know on your own to control the thoughts.....don't put any condition to thoughts.....just go on sitting silently witnessing your thoughts like you are sitting at the bank of river....and you have no control on the flowing water.....just be a witness....slowly slowly you will understand.......let them wander....they are like your children....created and feeded by you.....you will learn on to your own.....how to reign your thoughts....You are doing very fine...don't be scared....but be regular....choose a time which suits you but be regular.....if you sometime miss.....make over the time in your next session.....but be regular....do it twice a day.....first in the morning......and again before immediately going to sleep....You are very very lovely....you will arrive....if you do it your own way.....

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

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    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 11:20:21 AM »
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  • Surely will meditate regularly. Thank you so much bhai , thank you for being our bhai ......lucky me to have a brother. I just have sisters and no brothers so i have one now.

    Sushma.
     

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    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2005, 12:12:11 PM »
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    Sushma dear.....I am giving you a very very powerful topic....It will help you more in your journey of Meditation......our life itself is a journey.....It may take some time to do it exactly....but you will be able to do it within a week's or within a fortnigh's time...then you will find a new Sushma dear.....SUSHMA THE DEAREST SISTER OF RAMESH BHAI......Excuse me.... not only Sushma but everyone who try and master this technique......

    The moment you are dropping into sleep is the moment to encounter the unconscious. You have been sleeping every day, but you have not encountered sleep yet. You have not seen it: what it is, how is comes, how to drop into it. You have not known anything about it.
    You have been going into sleep every night and awakening from sleep every morning, but you have not felt the moment when sleep comes, you have not felt what happens. So try this experiment, and after three months, suddenly, one day, you will enter sleep knowingly.

    Drop on your bed, close your eyes, and then remember -- remember! -- that sleep is coming and you are to remain awake when it comes. This exercise is very arduous. The first day it will not happen, the next day it will not happen, but if you persist every day, constantly remembering that sleep is coming and you are not to allow it to come without being aware of it -- you must feel how sleep takes over, what it is -- then one day sleep will be there and you will still be awake.

    That very moment you become aware of your unconscious. And once you become aware of your unconscious, you will never be asleep again. Sleep will be there, but you will be awake; a center in you will go on knowing. All around you there will be sleep and the center will go on knowing.

    When this center is knowing, dreams become impossible; and when dreams become impossible, daydreams also become impossible. Then you will be asleep in a different sense; a different quality happens because of the encounter.

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

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    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2005, 12:24:43 PM »
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  • OMSAIRAM!Ramesh ji,I had also being thinking on these lines.
    After attending Sai Amrit Vaani at VEENA GUPTA ji's place and also during  meditation i could feel HIM to be near me.
    But I have never tried Meditation.
    Now I will also do as Ramesh ji says.
    Thanks to Ramesh ji ,Astrid our book keeper and Sushma ji for throwing light on this topic and enlightening poor souls like me.

    Sai baba let your holy lotus feet be our sole refuge.OMSAIRAM

    dipika duggal
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    « Reply #10 on: August 16, 2005, 08:54:07 AM »
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    Sushma dear since you are interested in Meditation......some basics...take your own time.....don't fall in any trap.....take it easy.....I know you can do it.....just a little bit but surely you will make it.....No hurry....Just be regular...It is THE only condition of Meditation.....Otherwise no such pre-conditions......slowly-slowly it start happening.......

    So the first thing is that the world is only a resting place. The deeper you take in this fact, the more useful will it prove that you must not stop where you are, that stagnation is death and that you have to go further and still further... till you reach His door. You may rest if you are tired, but do not make a home out of the inn.
    You are bound to get tired, for the journey is long and the destination far away. You will also wander time and again, for it is not a path that is marked out, a highway! Man has to walk himself and carve out his route.

    Therefore the road to His abode is very long. As birds fly in the air and leave no trace behind, so the enlightened one walks in His path and reaches but leaves no marks behind. The space is as empty as ever.

    When you set out, you cannot walk on the footprints of others. There is no loan system in the realm of truth. No one else can give you truth; others can merely suggest, give hints. Love you can get, also the guru's grace, but truth you will have to find yourself. His grace can lend strength to your feet to continue walking but cannot give you the path. His compassion can offer up confidence and encouragement, but not draw a map for you. His compassion can give you the strength to carry on and be persistent in your effort so that you do not waver, you do not give up. But you must walk the path alone.

    And the path is such that it is formed only if you begin to walk. It is not a carved-out route marked on a map. There is no ready-made device to take you to God. Each person has to find his own way himself.

    This is the difficulty, and this is the dignity of purpose. For if it were a well-beaten track that thousands had trodden before, the joy and fulfillment in reaching and attaining God would not have been so special.

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

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    Re: Our Mind is like Quicksilver(Mercury)...........
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2005, 10:46:55 AM »
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  • Ramesh bhai,

         Lets keep this post alive all the time so that whoever is new to this forum can also learn these precious lessons and will guide everyone to meditate.
           Or
    we can have a separate column that helps everyone of us to read and this will not be lost in the "Sai Baba Help us" column.

    What do you say bhai?

         
    Sushma.
     

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    « Reply #12 on: August 16, 2005, 10:52:55 AM »
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    Sushma dear as you wish! Let it go this way....whosoever interested will find his ways.......

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

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    « Reply #13 on: August 16, 2005, 11:01:48 AM »
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  • Om Sai Ram,

    Ramesh Bahi
    Even I want to start meditation, But my mind is very fluctuating. It does not stand at one thing for a second also. Because of that I use to struggle a lot while studying.
    Now also I am not at all able to concentrate on work and feeling very lonely all the time.
    I know Yoga, Pranayam and Rekhi also. But mind resist to do.
    So how I will start meditation? Starting how much time should I practice?

    Om Sai Ram

    Pavitra
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    « Reply #14 on: August 16, 2005, 11:30:57 AM »
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    Pavi dear.....Just follow this post regularly....read all posts.....Without telling specific you will learn on your own....

    OM SAI RAM!!!
    अपना साँई प्यारा साँई सबसे न्यारा अपना साँई - रमेश रमनानी

     


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