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Offline shivani.sai

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Dear Sai Devotees, I am Shiva, my wife Vani and my little daughter Nishi, need your help. first and foremost, sorry for this post which is not relevant to sai forum. But, We are in  trouble, need your help. Please educate me, is there something like black magic in this world?? or is it just illusions.?? I was told it is used for malevolent acts or to deliberately cause harm in some way.
Friends, I was forced to divorce my first wife, due to black magic, as sometimes she used to behave very normal and at times she used to speak, write in such a manner as if her mind is not in her control. Once in such mental state she had filed divorce case against me and because of this reason my family proved her that she is not fit for me and forced me to divorce her. After our divorce, when I met her, she was quite normal and she explained me about her change of mood and mind and behavior which she felt as if somebody was controlling her mind etc. which I did’t believe at that time, eventhough our marriage was love marriage.
But to my surprise, that same problem is happening with my second wife. My wife Vani says, even if she try to control her, sometime she go out of control and do the same thing which my ex wife used to do. We are scared. I need help. My family members are not helping me. Through one of my friend when I contacted one tantrik, he has confirmed it as black magic. As I need to get rid of this as my newborn baby (2months only) and my beloved wife are suffering like hell for no reason due to this. Nowadays we used to have big fights for petty issues for no reason. I don’t want to lose her. Please help me. We both are sai devotees, I know, when sai is there to protect us, why worry, but devotees still need help and clarifications from you all.
Please clarify  me is it true, can someone’s mind be controlled through black magic so that the person can do all the unpleasant and bad things.
i’m serious. will give you the whole story once i hear from you
Looking forward hear from you soon. Thank you.
sorry sai for this post,

Offline Anupam

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Shivaji, sad but true, BM is very real unfortunately. Just the deliberate use of Sadhna to destroy someone, and mind control is the very first aspect of it,

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@Shiva ji,

SaiRam!:)

Yes,  Black Magic exists!

But there's a quote > If God Is For Us, Who Can Be Against Us?!

You can also find in this section one topic named 'Please Save My Husband' made by SaiSai83 sister.. which clearly tells ki Jiske Upar Baba Ka Haath Ho Uska Koi Baal Bhi Baaka Ni Kar Sakta.. par shraddha aur saburi hona bhi bhot zaruri hai.

And, personally from my experiences too , Baba has always been with me.. I can never explain in words how much thankful and lucky i'm to have him in my life .. He's my saviour, He's my Protector.. He's my best friend.. my true friend.. my life :)

I am a tiny devotee of baba and there are other here who can explain u n guide u really well but still I would like to say somethings..

The more Negative U'll be, The More u'll Harm Yourself..D more +ive U'll be, D more Beneficial It wud be for u both.. So, D choice Is Yours!


Keep on chanting his name continuously whenever you can and wherever you can truly from ur heart

Please Keep 9 Thursdays Vrat of baba and along with that, Also Please with that regularly read Shri SaiSatcharitra .. which would give you immense peace..

Indulge in Good Karmas.. Kyuki Har janam mein Karmo Ka Phal hi Insaan Bhogta Hai.. Feed any poor person or any animal daily.. PLEASE do not talk bad about anyone.. Help the needy..Follow His Teachings.. Create An Aura Of Sai Purely In Your Heart..Sing his songs.. sing his leelas.. chant his name.. do good karmas..

(Helping the needy and feeding animals would make u feel very happy.. Please don't expect any returns wn u do such acts.. do them without any expectations)


Lastly, Shraddha n Saburi rakhte jao bas..


Hope baba blesses you both..

Jai Sai Nath!  ;D
When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

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You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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Dear, Magic is only an illusion. What state you are explaining it to control over mind, it is different state. In more than 90% it is fear alone and not any magic which cause any harm.

This is also a sort of science. People gets hurt not on account of power of someone else but on account of their own weaknesses. In many cases where no loyalty exist, Guilty or Wife assumes she is not fortunate for husband or vice versa such incidents take place.

Just to share one real story, Some years back, One of my friend met me, He was sad, When I asked what was issue, He explained that he loved some girl, who belonged to very poor family so his family was not accepting this relation, as they had found one girl from rich family who were supposed to give good amount as dowry. His parents, as he over-heard their conversation gave his clothes to some big Jadoo tona type Guy, so that he started hating that girl. He was sad, but there was confidence on his face that what so ever happen, I won’t leave that girl. In spite of all efforts of his family, He married that girl, Now it has been many years, and they are living happy married life.
 
Just to explain you must be knowing about Hackers who hack system of others to capture all relevant information and use for their benefits. But if system is password protected, equipped with high quality anti-virus software, firewall and anti-spyware solution. Regular Scanning of systems and multi-level back up, Control over external webmails It is just impossible for any hackers to get into such system ………………. same where in our life there is light of name of Lord, it is no way to get enter for any evil force. One who live with fear (respect) of Lord and perform karmas with the thought that Lord is watching his all acts, never fall victim of such forces.

We can divide such forces in three parts simple magic (Usually tricks like making things appear from air, cutting the person into pieces etc. etc. You can watch decoding the magic code program on AXN to know all tricks behind such magic) Second, Is hypnotism (Where conscious mind is controlled, But this technique is not effective for people who have very strong belief system or sub-conscious mind e.g. a very honest officer cannot be made to accept bribe) Third is to control one’s entire mind, but again if one is true devotee of Lord or have very clear and strong life value system, then holy name of Lord always protects him from evil and such a power of name, any evil power instead of harming him benefits him in some way.

This is all as per my little knowledge. One more thing I have experienced in my own life, Unbalanced energy level also play an important role in such events, like not getting Job or being unemployed for long time, Not good family life, Kids not good in education etc. Here one should check if there is junk in house, dead flowers, plants, broken photos of any form of God, faulted electrical equipments, water leakages, no proper light,  broken mirrors, stopped watches, wash room and kitchen together ……………. as small change in environment can result in big positive changes in life.

Hope, It will give you some clarity. Still you feel there is some other reason, consult some wise person. If in Delhi, I heard that priest of Bharon temple is very knowledgeable.  Also in Delhi two places are extremely powerful with high degree of divine energy, Jhandewalan Temple and Gurudwara Sis Ganj which can convert negative energy into positive one! For other areas You have to find. Other way is powerful chanting. This is like Buddhist Monks use, Simple chanting to sound meditation.

May Baba Bless You and All!


om sri sai ram!
om sai ram!
Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

Offline SaiSevak!9

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@Saib ji,

Thanku so much 4 sharing such informative post.. I learnt a lot..

I didn't knew that Jhandewala mandir is famous for this too..

Thnku..

Baba bless u.
When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

Lastly,
You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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Dear Saisevak Bhai (or Saisewika Behan  :) ),

Thanks for appreciation, But fact is this I am too learning by experiences of others and time. By blessings of Lord, I have made to visit many religious places belongs to different worldly religions. But at these two places I feel great energy. Jhandewalan Mata Temple because whenever I visit there, it seems like a small child under the loving shelter of his mother. Just like a child feel secure and safe under loveable care of his mother. I can’t explain in words Grace of this temple.

Then Gurudwara Sis Ganj Sahib, As per my own personal belief, It was Lord Shankar himself only. As no normal incarnation could hold such a power and energy. Also nearby there is Sri Digambar Jain Temple,  Jama Masjid, Gauri Shankar Temple, Sunehri Masjid nearby. You can imagine divine aura of this place.  If one can meditate with empty mind and controlled breathing rhythm …….. impact on life will be just awesome subject to Karmas and blessings of Lord.

Just to clear, I didn’t say These Places are known for destroying evil impacts by any rituals. I said about high positive and divine energy level at these both places. For other purpose there are many other places.

For these Places I can only Say, To become big there are always two ways, Cut other short or Add Value to your life. Here Divine Values and energy gets added to life. But what matters As Baba Said, “ Jis Bhav se mujhe Pujoge Usi Bhav Se Mujhe Paoge”

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

May Baba Bless all of Us!


om sri sai ram!
om sai ram!
Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Dear Shiva,

Yes, unfortunately black magic is very real. I am in a very similar situation. Black magic has been used to separate my husband and I and has resulted in a situation where it is heading for a divorce.
I am really sorry to hear about what you and your first wife and current wife are facing. A lot of people like to believe it does not exist because they have not experienced it by God's grace. Only people who have suffered being victims know and understand the pain.
Yes black magic is used to control people and used for many destructive purposes. It is sad that human beings think that it is okay to manipulate another person's free will which is a gift God has given each one of us. I understand your pain brother.
My advice to you would be to go to Shibpur Sai Baba Mandir with your wife and child and pray to Baba there for protection. Also, please consult a faith healer who can help you with this. In my quest for answers, I have learnt that any intent, good or bad remains and will run its course as harsh as it sounds. But, what we can do is seek protection from God. You can also contact a knowledgable person who can do healing like reiki, pranic healing to seek protection to shield your wife from this trauma.
Also, please mix Baba's udi in water and give it to your wife everyday.
I really feed bad for you as this is something I am going through right now in my life. When it happened, I did not have anyone's support as no one believed it until it was too late. Please dont feel alone brother, seek protection from Baba, and please get help from a faith healer who someone can refer you to. If you know a good tantrik, then please seek help from him to break the spell.

May Baba bestow his loving blessings on you and your family always

Jai Sai Ram

Dear Sai Devotees, I am Shiva, my wife Vani and my little daughter Nishi, need your help. first and foremost, sorry for this post which is not relevant to sai forum. But, We are in  trouble, need your help. Please educate me, is there something like black magic in this world?? or is it just illusions.?? I was told it is used for malevolent acts or to deliberately cause harm in some way.
Friends, I was forced to divorce my first wife, due to black magic, as sometimes she used to behave very normal and at times she used to speak, write in such a manner as if her mind is not in her control. Once in such mental state she had filed divorce case against me and because of this reason my family proved her that she is not fit for me and forced me to divorce her. After our divorce, when I met her, she was quite normal and she explained me about her change of mood and mind and behavior which she felt as if somebody was controlling her mind etc. which I did’t believe at that time, eventhough our marriage was love marriage.
But to my surprise, that same problem is happening with my second wife. My wife Vani says, even if she try to control her, sometime she go out of control and do the same thing which my ex wife used to do. We are scared. I need help. My family members are not helping me. Through one of my friend when I contacted one tantrik, he has confirmed it as black magic. As I need to get rid of this as my newborn baby (2months only) and my beloved wife are suffering like hell for no reason due to this. Nowadays we used to have big fights for petty issues for no reason. I don’t want to lose her. Please help me. We both are sai devotees, I know, when sai is there to protect us, why worry, but devotees still need help and clarifications from you all.
Please clarify  me is it true, can someone’s mind be controlled through black magic so that the person can do all the unpleasant and bad things.
i’m serious. will give you the whole story once i hear from you
Looking forward hear from you soon. Thank you.
sorry sai for this post,

« Last Edit: May 05, 2011, 09:34:51 PM by saisai83 »
'I will be with you, whenever and wherever you think of Me.'

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^

But sisso the fact that ur mother-in-law tried so much 2 bring even u under d influence of black magic but she cudn't can't also be ignored na.. all baba's grace..

n I also read somewhere that all this cannot affect u until you urself start being negative.. so I think being +ive is very much imp.
When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

Lastly,
You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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@Saib ji,

Only name Saisewika sis is welcome  :P

Yea.. Jaisa roop hua jis jan ka waisa roop hua mere mann ka.. baba's words r so b'ful

I've also been to many temples.. But I just can't find that high level of patience anywhere except Sai baba's mandir in Sec-7,Rohini.. Though I hardly go there on Thursday.

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

^
This line means dat only chanting of God's name?

When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

Lastly,
You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

Offline saisai83

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Om Sri Sai Nathaaya Namaha

Dear Saisevak,

Going through someting and reading about something are two different things. Jis jan pe beet ti hai, sirf woh jaanta hai. Anyway, I am not here to explain myself, Baba knows me, that is enough for me.

I am here to help someone who is going through the exact same as I am. It is not a joke sis.

May Baba bkess you.

Jai Sai Ram

^

But sisso the fact that ur mother-in-law tried so much 2 bring even u under d influence of black magic but she cudn't can't also be ignored na.. all baba's grace..

n I also read somewhere that all this cannot affect u until you urself start being negative.. so I think being +ive is very much imp.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 09:34:59 AM by saisai83 »
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Sisso,

me really sry if i hurt u in anyway.. i never assumed or called it as a joke.

All i wanted 2 say was dat ur MIL  tried black magic even on u but she cud never succeed n it was all due 2 baba's kripa.. so, I just wanted 2 say dat belief n faith in god is really imp.

I am sorry.
When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

Lastly,
You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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Hi I have faced some issues regarding black magic and found these lines from Ayodhyakaand, ShriRam Charit Manas very effective in curing the problem of black magic. You just have to chant them as and when you can throughout the day. 

måyåpati sevaka sana måyå,karai ta ula¢i parai suraråya
jo aparådhu bhagata kara kara∂,råma ro¶a påvaka so jara∂.

Stanza no. 218 so you can check the words in hindi and meaning from Shi Ram Charit Manas.

I am sure you will soon be rid of all your problems by Baba's grace.

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Dear Saisewika Sis,

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

This line means dat only chanting of God's name?

It does not mean simple chanting or typing lord names, but to live lord, feel presence of lord in heart 24*7. Like before meals remember him, first thing to naman or bow to Lord, before sleeping just remember him, Whatsoever you do, Do with his name. Like in case of Mobile you have to charge it again and again depend on capacity of battery, But Landline phone there connection remains forever. Make connections like that. Chanting for time being, Reading religious or spiritual scriptures for time being can connect one to the power of lord, but only for limited time, then one again comes in normal state …………. sad, depressed, frustrated.

Remember In the world of Lord, emotion and Love for lord is most important and not any formal rituals (Even must form part of disciplined spiritual life), if this is the situation, Great Saint Balmiki attained the lord by just chanting Mara, Mara instead of chanting Ram, Ram. Great Devotee Dhannna attained Lord by just worshipping an ordinary stone. Angulimal when blessed by Buddha attained the state where whole world became reflection of Lord ……………….!

But this is not easy, To win the battle over mind, People get attracted to worldly people on account of their wealth, beauty of their skin, Intellectual status etc. etc. ……………… but to attract to Lord. Only way to hold love in heart, Love means when you accept everything reflection of Lord, and accept as wish of lord, even performing your best Karmas.

Hope, It is clear. I just try. But if study further you will know more. Use Google or read good books like the power of now by  Eckhart Tolle. The unshakable mind by Ryuho Okawa etc.

If you come to this state, you will find there is no evil as Lord alone is the master of all elements. What I have experienced till now by reading life stories of great saints, even they had the power, they lived as normal, didn’t use their special powers to overcome difficulties, but accepted and lived. It is only a play at large scale.

May Baba Bless all of Us!


om sri sai ram!

@Saib ji,

Only name Saisewika sis is welcome  :P

Yea.. Jaisa roop hua jis jan ka waisa roop hua mere mann ka.. baba's words r so b'ful

I've also been to many temples.. But I just can't find that high level of patience anywhere except Sai baba's mandir in Sec-7,Rohini.. Though I hardly go there on Thursday.

To have eternal peace in life in Kalyuga, there is only one way to hold divine and sweet name of Lord in heart forever and nothing else!

^
This line means dat only chanting of God's name?


om sai ram!
Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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thnku :)
When we help others in pain n help the needy, baba adds it to our account in his 'Bank of Blessings'.If we add our good karmas this way,we are actually helping Sai to use it and at the time of need - Quote from Star Sai

Before Asking Sai That What He's Doing To Keep Us Happy,Ask Yourself That What You Are Doing To Keep Sai Happy?!

Lastly,
You Are The Cutest Sai!! :D

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