should love contains any religous boundry?

[@pari@]

om sai ram,

i love a guy for last 5 years... we love each other a lot, im hindu girl n he is muslim.... but this never matters to me....

in 2oo5 i had break up wid him bz his family got to know about me n his mother force him to break relations to me by saying them that if the society gets to know abt this, no body will let them to live happily.....

that time a went to high dippression bz it was too shocking..... he never told me the reason for our break up.....

hat time i had hardly a beliver of sai baba. but he came to me in my dreams on nite.... i saw that i was sitting near his charan he is sitting in his regular position and talking to me..... has was not seemd to b clear.......

from that day i become a huge faither of sai baba..... he let me out of my dipression and just because of him..... just bz of his love towards me...... he gave my love back.. n im happy wd her........

i want to ask all u sai bhakts that should love sacrifice itself bz 2 peoples who loves eachother are not from same caste, same religion, same community.......

baba's teachings to the wold is that sabka malik ek, den why peoples believe in hindu n muslims? why no one see the love behind it?

[rajiv800]

om sai ram pari jee
its only coz of the society that parents are more worried about other than anything else
unka kya hoga
society mein kaise baithenge
they are just selfish for there own reasons
i wish we had a more western upbringing and mentality
we might be in the 21st century but the parents minds are still in the 18th
not all are same but since i have suffered myself i can say this
all they are concerned about is there happiness
they dont care a damn about what there own daughter or son would go through
nothing makes there mind work except the society
and most of these people are just those who have nothing to do sitting home talking about each others life
they are the ones who are ready to sacrifice there own child's happiness for the sake of there nose in society no matter what
om sai ram

[Well-wisher]

Pariji... have faith. If the two of you stay together n decide to stay together, no one can stop you. If God made you love each other, I pray He keeps you with each other.

I wish there was just one religion in this world. That of humanity!There would never be any destruction.

Om Sai Ram

[@pari@]

but why is dis trauma is in middle class? hum dekhte hain ki kitne celabriti aise hain jo hindu hain n unhone muslim se shadi kari n vice-versa.... kya jab tak hum wahan par nai pahuch jate humei apne sapne n apne pyar ka gala ghotna hoga?

[Kirti1]

OM Sai Ram

Dear Rajiv,

To an extent I agree with what you say
However wanna add at the end of it all if love is true it can stand any storm
for that who so ever's parents are not accepting, tht partner should have the courage to stand for what is right, for what they want, remember Sai can help only those who help themselves
At times, purely out of future financial insecurities/parental love/parental black mail people walk out on their love
that is incorrect....Love is not for the meek-hearted..........at the same time love needs patience.......and patience comes only through faith

And Faith is found at Sai's feet, when you completely surrender to him


Keep Praying!!

[Well-wisher]

Very true Kirtiji...Om Sai Ram, Baba bless us all...

[rajiv800]

om sai ram kirtiji

i really feel its nothing more than society, hum kaise uthenge baithenge is society mein no matter how badly two peoples lives are effected, its purely selfishness and nothing else
not just me i have seen so many people going through the same
and yes if love is not for faint hearted people they should not get into it
coz they not only destroy there own life but one more along with them
the person who leaves only thinks about his or her family and nothing more than that
i dont say disrespect ur parents ever but i have a very good friend of mine whose parents said to this point that they will kill themselves if my friend gets married to the girl he loved
today 5 years they are married, his parents are all well, and they love the girl more than anyone else in the world now
its never ever one sided, i have seen it, one backs off another breaks
its easier said than done to see a person who means your life going away from you when reasons are so pity
indian society is has been and will always be like this i feel
they will never ever grow up and look beyond there own self and there own society
so many people are here on the forum who are effected coz of this
and i see anyone hardly who is saying that my parents wouldnt get me married to this girl or guy coz he is not settled or anything
all they say are religion society
why can they not understand that before falling in love we never asked each other what religion you are from
if i am a hindu you are muslim and we fall in love what sin did we do
when we started loving each other we did not see all this
and who made the feelings in our heart is not just us but god too
we meet 10 people in a day and may be talk to atleast 5 everyday we still dont fall in love with each and every person
well dont want to talk a lot about all this and end up hurting anyone
om sai ram

[saib]

We can't blame our parents for this. They always think good of their children. We can't understand this now, when our brain conditioned not to accept any logic, not to think against the one whom it has choosen.

Because their experience would already have taught them, marriage is not between two individuals, it is relation between two families and any unaccepted step can cause troble for remaining members of family.

We are born at wrong times. In beginning there was no religion. only two types of people Good or Bad.
Let there be a big war, at the end of kalyuga we will be on the same stage again.

Love never see religions, cast, wealth, status........Bus ho jaata hai. Kai bar usese jo hame sirf nafrat karta hai, bina kisi reason ke.Kuch hi kuskismat hote hai jo usi roop me aapna pyar pate hai jisme woh chahte hai.

If this is on account of any reason, it won't be love. It will be only attraction.


May Sai Bless All with divine wisdom, great patience and Strength!

om sri sai ram!

[rajiv800]

saib ji
om sai ram
i do not aggree with what you said
of what you said started happening even the arranged marriages are an association of two families which might never get along
with the concept of nuclear families people hardly get to see there own families leave aside the in laws
and this also means that all you think is about society
and i feel that when one family is not agreeing only coz of religion then its just one thing that they are more concerned about there society and religion
i am 27 year old well settled and my gfs parents said no to me only coz of religion
i have been out of india since wen i was 21 and they could not find any problem with me inspite her mom trying her best to even downgrade me in front of her own daughter's eyes by saying so much crap that i cant even say here
i do not believe that these parents are bothered about anything else excecpt there social circle
i met her entire family including everyone like taya chaha everyone liked me just coz i am not of the same religion they said guy is nice but not of our religion
there are people in world who do not think beyond there double faced society
and we were not kids that we wouldnt be able to take right decisions for ourselves
we both were 27 and she told her mom this too that its not we have taken this decision in haste
well anyways
i will never agree to what you say
at the end of the day the guy and the girl has to live together not family
family does not keeps sticking to you all your life
i am away from them since 6 years now and dont know how long i will be away from them but i think though they have given us birth they are still not there to treat you as per to there advantages and not treat us like there slaves
if every parent has a dream even we have it but all they do is force there's on us
i can keep going on on this subject but leave it
om sai ram

[saib]

Dear Rajiv,
I too do not agree with what i have said, but on individual level. You, Pari, N,W and upto some extent me, all are exceptions. Rules are not for exceptions. What you say is right when you are in shape of nuclear family, but in India still system of joint family exist.

I do agree disputes are too in arranged marriages, but not common, very rare.

Just leave the girls, even boys don't open their mouth before parents, reason might be respect, shame or fear.

If you both are earning members of two person family, life is very easy. Otherwise Three months to three years, life becomes hell when faced with reality. People ready to die for each other appear as simple realistic individuals, ego become an issue.

No matter you accept or don't, truth is truth. I have seen, so i know. I experienced how love is played in the name of religions, I spent years with tearful eyes, as whom i worshiped was of different religion. How i survive only i know. But in every bad thing seeds of goods things exist. so here. I came close to my real love my lord my Sai. Rejected & disgraced by the one whom i worshiped, Got shelter in the home of Sai.

I am not trying to disappoint you. Each one has his or her destiny, which they have to live.
I pray for all that no one gets hurts in the name of religion. Because for Baba "SABKA MALIK EK".

om sri sai ram!

[babasfollower]

Dear Everyone, Its nice to be back... may be after an year or so. struggled a bit to retrieve my login information. Hope to stay here for rest of time. After reading everyone's comments, to be honest, I think I am highly ignorant of importance of love or may be I have adjusted my emotional response to its real life dynamics. Had I been in subject's place, i would have asked myself... Is love so important that it should hold my mental peace to ransom? Our past may be full of beautiful experiences with somone whom we loved. But present and future demands that we must move on... move on in the direction that Sai Baba shows. We can always try to make efforts to 'retake' our love. But may be 10 years down the lane the question will come asking 'was it worth so much effort'. I feel that be it love, be it career or be it even fight for survival, we should make all ethical efforts without sacrificing our own self-respect and leave the rest in Baba's hands. We will achieve the so-called desired objectives if Baba thinks they are in our best interests. Else there must be something better as per his plans. 'Patience' & 'faith' seem to be very simple words. But putting them in practice is not so easy. The situations that test our level of patience and faith can be seemingly deceptive. One may have patience and faith in Sai Baba while eyeing the achievement of desired objectives. One may also have same patience and faith in Baba while being clear in his mind that Baba is there and he only knows the best regarding whats good for us and whats bad. The second option keeps us away from depression and anxiety

[@pari@]

om sai ram.....

aap sab logo ka bahut shukriya ki maine ye jo topic jis aasha k sath likha tha n aap sabke samne rakha tha uska mujhe pura jawab mil raha hai jo mere future k liye pure hai

[saib]

BABASFOLLOWER,

Very True Said.

"I feel that be it love, be it career or be it even fight for survival, we should make all ethical efforts without sacrificing our own self-respect and leave the rest in Baba's hands. We will achieve the so-called desired objectives if Baba thinks they are in our best interests. Else there must be something better as per his plans."

But Problem is this, even knowingly what we desire is next to impossibe, We don't want to Give Up the hope. A hidden desire always remain in the heart. No Jap Tap Can remove it. I did repentace, hours of chanting but could not get rid of my pain. Purity of Heart and status of Nishkam Yogi obtains only from blessings of Sai and not from our efforts, Because only THY can judge what is our actual level. Mukti from all desires happens only on wish of Sai. But it is our duty to keep on trying with following shardha & saburi. Even being failure again & again.

May Sai Bless All!

om sri sai ram!

[Kirti1]

Hi All,

Rajiv, I agree with you completely, Marriage is that of souls not of families
Husband and Wife have to live with each other(nuclear/Joint), on personal level
they need to be ready to understand, accept and love each other, irrespective of shortcomings
I have seen numerous arranged marriages in my families, where the couples are just going on like bulls in a bullock cart
I would not call that marriage
A good married life spread goodness to the households and families and vice-versa

Unfortunately Rajiv, for the concept of marriage for some is not in sync with us

Either we are beyond them or we  belong to a different era

Please take your time to accept and come out of it....it's fine
You have all the right to do so.....however, at the same time try and accept that if you were there, you may have done the some

Thank god you are not in those shoes

Keep Praying!!