Conversations with My Master His Holiness Shri Datta Swami

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Conversations  with  My Master  His Holiness Shri Datta Swami


This is a collection of telephonic conversations with my Master, His Holiness Shri Datta Swami over a period. These conversations include the queries raised by many people all over the world in the discussions, on the knowledge preached by Swami. This is compiled as per the wish and advice of Swami for the benefit of devotees in their spiritual effort.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

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O Learned and Devoted Servants of God,

1.   Devotion should come spontaneously but not by effort. Is it not contradicting?

The devotion on God should be spontaneous. Love is in the heart and it shall come by its own without any force or compulsion. Knowing more and more about God is the spiritual effort. The devotion will increase by such effort, but love on God can only be spontaneous. I will give an example, if a boy asks his girl friend to have more and more love on him, is it not foolishness? Love should be complete, not partial and then only it becomes spontaneous. The love should withstand in troubles also. Even if the girl neglects him, still if he loves her, then it is the true spontaneous love. Likewise, in the case of God, even if one loves Him inspite of troubles or negligence from side of the God, then it is the real love, which is expressed spontaneously.

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2.   You preached that, souls rotate in the same cycle repeatedly with a specific ratio of the samskaras. What is the meaning of this?

I told about the specific ratio of the samskaras as constant in all such births, the reason is that the qualities developed in a soul is so huge and always diverted to world, it can be assumed constant, due to the magnitude. These qualities have strengthened from one birth to the other, and have become like rock and have attained a saturated state. Such attitude can change only by hearing the spiritual knowledge. The attitude is a kind of wrong knowledge only, such knowledge can be destroyed by the right spiritual knowledge, spoken by the contemporary human incarnation available to you now on this earth.

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3.   God competes with justice and reveals the background to successful devotees. Please explain?

[God competes with justice and at last reveals the background of such competition to those devotees who is successful during the test. Please explain the meaning of this?]

A devotee considers the acts of God in two angles. First is that, whatever God does is justice only. The second angle is that whatever acts done by God become the justice. In the first case, the devotee gives more importance to justice than the God. In the second case, this reverses. The second approach only can please God. God reveals the background after the test to such successful devotees. If any incident is linked to previous birth, in such case also, Lord will reveal the incidents of the previous birth to that devotee, who can accept those incidents by his belief. God can make the devotee understand the concept of previous birth to such devotee because He is omniscient and for Him everything is possible.

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4.   ‘God cannot help the undeserving’. Why it is so?

The meaning of the statement is that if God excuses everybody irrespective of one’s acts, then every soul will do deeds, which are prohibited and undesirable. This makes God ineffective, partial and irresponsible. God is impartial. If somebody is punished for no reason also, how can it be tolerated? Punishment is only for transformation and it is as per the deeds committed by the souls. If the punishments are not there, then there is no need of mentioning ‘Liquid Fire’ in scriptures.

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5.   Who is ‘Hiranyagarbha’?

God is unimaginable and nobody can see God. Such God charges a medium to give His presence. The God charged first created being is the Hiranyagarbha. It is equivalent to the saying of Christian ‘The Heavenly Father’. When one say heavenly father, immediately one can imagine Him. Thus, God expresses through a created item, which He charges by entering it. Such first created item is the Hiranyagarbha.
Hiranyagarbha also means he, who has gold in the womb. Womb means hidden. A pregnant woman has a child in her womb and the child is not seen outside. Here, ‘garbha’ means hidden and ‘hiranya’ means gold. What is the gold? Gold is said to be most precious metal. God hidden in human form is called as Hiranya Garbha or human incarnation. Jesus is Hiranya Garbha because God is hidden in Him. It is applicable to any human incarnation. We should not take the literal meaning. It is just like the usage of the word ‘lamb’in Old Testament to denote God. It means as lamb is innocent, God is also innocent, straight and clear. Hence, the word ‘lamb’ denotes God.

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6.   Krishna told Anu Gita but not God. Why?

Human Incarnation is a two-component system in which God and soul exists as a homogenous mixture like an alloy of two metals. Both God and soul are mixed in homogenous phase and properties of each phase (God and soul) are expressed. For example, take the case of Jesus. Jesus told that ‘Oh God! Why did You leave Me?’, and also told that ‘I am submitting My soul to Father’. This proves that human incarnation is a two-component system in which God and the soul exist simultaneously.

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7.   Jesus cured a blind person & told that it is to glorify God. Is it not injustice?

[In the Bible, there is an incident, in which Jesus cures a person who is blind by birth and Jesus spoke to the people that he was born blind not because of his sins, but for the glory of God. Is it not injustice and cruelty of God?]

You have not the understood the context, which God alone knows. God will never do injustice. His acts are always just only. The person is born blind due to his own previous deeds only, and God is not at all responsible for that. This is the truth. This particular incident can be analysed in two ways. In the first case, the person would have completely undergone the results of his bad deeds by the time he saw Jesus. The cure by Jesus would have coincided with the end of punishment for his previous deeds. In the second case, Jesus would have actually carried the sins, which are supposed to be suffered by that blind person. Also, by such verses, Jesus tested the attitude of the blind person towards Him. If he is a real devotee, when Jesus spoke that he is born blind for the glory of God, he would have accepted that statement thinking that it is the wish of God. In this case, the person is a real devotee of God and he never criticized God by hearing those statements from Jesus, rather he praised Him.
Infact, Jesus carried the sins of that person, during His crucifixion. The thorns, which were put on His head, pierced His eyes also, by which Jesus carried the sins of the blind person. This incident shows that God is always kind and He comes in human form and carries the sins of His People on to Him. His people are those who love Him alone without any desire or expecation.

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8.   Why the knowledge given by God in Human form is wonderful and unimaginable?

The knowledge is wonderful and unimaginable because nobody else has preached such knowledge and the source of such knowledge is God Himself. For example, the concept of worship of contemporary human incarnation is a wonderful and unimaginable knowledge. After hearing the knowledge, it becomes imaginable, so that the devotee can derive bliss from this. Hanuman, Gopikas, disciples of Jesus worshiped their contemporary human incarnation only, namely, Rama, Krishna and Jesus. This is one example from the entire infinite spectrum of such unimaginable and wonderful knowledge, which nobody else can preach other than God Himself.

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9.   Can God come in female form?

Yes. Why not? God can come in any form He wishes. He can come in any form as God Himself or as a devotee or as a servant of God. Narayana came as Krishna. He came as the best servant, Hanuman, for the best master, Rama. The devotee Radha was the incarnation of Durvasa and Durvasa was the incarnation of Lord Shiva. One should not limit God. He can come in any form to give the message to the world and the devotee. He even came in the form of animals also for certain specific purpose, like, fish, tortoise. In general, devotees are treated as females and God is treated as male. In the world, female gets protection from male. This concept and attitude is extended in spirituality also. But, God also expressed in the form of Kali, who is a female.

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10.   If any soul is in place of Arjuna, the Gita will certainly differ here and there. What is the menaing of this?


There are some common aspects for different souls and there are specialties for individual soul. Therefore, the Gita will differ for various devotees if it was to repeat. God wants to establish the dual concept to Arjuna and God infact kept silent and Krishna spoke. God existed in Krishna but kept silent. Krishna preached Anu Gita to preach this concept of co-existance of God and soul in the human incarnation, where in Krishna (soul) alone spoke.

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11.   If everybody, who has faith in God, jumps from hill, will he die?

[In the Bible, Jesus says that if you have faith in God, even of a magnitude of mustard seed and if you say that this hill to be thrown out from its original place, it will happen. If everybody utters and jumps from hill, will he die?]
Any spiritual preaching depends on the context. Fundamental point is that one should not test God. God acts according to the situation, need and devotion of the devotee. If somebody tells that if God is there let it happen, will it happen? If there is a real need and the devotee deserves a miracle by his excellent devotion, then only God acts. A true devotee really loves God. God is the most intelligent and He decides whether the love of a devotee is true or not. If God starts to respond to every foolish statements of every people indiscriminately, then ‘if somebody says if God is there let this world be destroyed’, this has to happen. But, this is not the case. God responds only to His true devotees, only when there is no other means of solving that problem other than through a miracle.

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12.   God never tries for Nivrutti, so is the involvement of God nil?

[God never tries for Nivrutti because Nivrutti is the affair of devotees loving God. Then why He preaches Nivirutti when He comes in human form? So, in Nivirutti, is the involvement of God nil?]

The love to God should come from side of the devotee. If it is forced and encouraged, then it is not a true love. God comes down in human form to satisfy the wishes of His devotees who love Him. The love has come from the devotees’ side. God responded by coming down in human form and is giving the opportunity to serve Him. Suppose, if one says that God creates devotion also and then there will not be truthfulness in that devotion. Such devotion will fail because it is maintained by external force. You can see such false love in the case of politicians who employ people to applaude him for whatever he says.

It is encouraged and forced devotion and hence, it is false love. In Nivrutti, one has to love God and that is his responsibility only. God will not put His finger in the effort of the devotee’s devotion. If He puts His finger, then it becomes artificial and not real love. In fact, He opposes the love to Him and even then, if the devotee retains the devotion then only it is appreciable. If somebody encourages love, it means that the love will fail in the absence of encouragement and it is not a true love.

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13.   The divine knowledge of God spreads by its own divinity and potency and not by the help of the devotees; then how does it spread?

If any devotee feels that the divine knowledge has spread because of his capability, service and publicity, then it is not true. Such devotees are egoistic and those devotees should remember constantly that knowledge of God spreads by its own potency and divinity only. If devotee thinks that ‘I have spread it’ then it will fail. For example, the Bible is not spread because disciples of Jesus, even though they served in the mission. The merit of the knowledge spreads it by itself, like scent of a flower. Definitely, the service done to propagation of knowledge of God in human form will be rewarded.

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14.   How to reach the state where one sees every action as the actions of God only?
Sometimes while sitting in the classroom and listening to the teacher, we remember the concepts taught. However, during the examination, we will not remember them. Knowledge of the concept and revision of the concept will make you realize that you yourself are the product of God’s power, you yourself are another form of energy only and hence, you are the sole property of God only. Therefore, for achieving the goal of this question, first step is to hear the knowledge and second step is to revise it, then it automatically stands in you.