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Offline abhinav

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LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
« on: November 20, 2007, 03:17:15 AM »
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    • ॐ साँई राम।

    हम सब अक्सर देखते हैं कि कुछ लोग (जो स्वयं को तांतरिक) कहते हैं, अपने विग्यापन में बाबा कि फोटो का प्रयोग करते  हैं।

    हम सब ये जानते हैं कि हमारे बाबा ने सदा इन बातों का विरोध किया हैं। और इस प्रकार के विग्यापन के द्वारा हमारे बाबा का दुःश्प्रचार होता है।

    इसलिये मैं एक सेना का गठन करना चाहता हूँ, जो इस प्रकार के व्यक्तियो को चेतावनी दे एवम् अवश्यक्ता पडने पर दंडित करने का भी कार्य करे।

    मैं इस विष्य पर कानूनि सलाह चाहता हूँ, कि क्या इस प्रकार की सेना का गठन किया जा सकता है?

    ॐ साँई राम।




    OM SAI RAM.

    SAI BANDHUS, WE HAVE SEEN THE ADVERTISEMENTS OF VARIOUS TANTRIK WHO USE TO ADVERTISE THROUGH LETTERS AND CABLE TV.

    YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT THEY USE TO HAVE THE PICTURE OF SAI BABA IN THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS.

    AND WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR BABA HAS NO RELATION WITH TANTRAS AND MATRAS. INFACT BABA USED TO OPPOSE THESE KIND OF ACTIONS.

    THESE KIND OF ADVERTISEMENTS CREATE A BAD IMAGE OF OUR BABA IN THE EYES OF THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE NOT A DEVOTEE OF BABA.

    I WISH TO ORGANISE A FORCE TO PROTECT THE NAME OF BABA FROM SUCH A DEFAME.
    THIS FORCE WILL WARN SUCH A PEOPLE AND WILL TAKE ACTION AGAISNT THEM IF THEY CONTINUE TO DO SUCH AN ACT.

    NOW  I WANT LEGAL ADVISE ON THIS- IS SUCH KIND OF FORCE CAN BE LEGALLY ORGANISED?

    OM SAI RAM.
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 03:27:33 AM »
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    • om shri sai nathay namah

    i see it these type of advertisement in many cards and visting cards

    om sai ram
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 01:16:38 AM »
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    • Om Sai Ra,

    Dear Abhinavji

    As per Constitution of India you enjoy the Right of Religious Freedom. You can't take action against such persons. Yes, but there are provisions in CRPC about convicting the persons who do fraud or cheat  any person.
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 07:43:45 AM »
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    • dayalvasnani ji,

    thank you for the reply.

    i have deceided to organise this force on a local level............at my own risk. but i wanted to organise it on the national level.

    therefore i want to have a legal advice (i'll also consult with advocates), is there any provison in law for such a force.

    if the law allows i'll definitely organise this force (if required this force will have some other purpose in legal documents).

    AAGE SAB KUCH BABA KI ICHHA PAR NIRBHAR.

    MAGAR MERI APNE SABHI SAI MEMBERS SE YE HAATH JOD KAR REQUEST HAI KI AAP JAB BHI AISE LOGO KE ADD DEKHE TO JAHA TAK AAPKI CAPACITY ALLOW KARE.................PLZ OPPOSE THEM.

    OM SAI RAM
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 09:52:27 PM »
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    • ya u r right.our full support to u
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 12:17:10 AM »
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    • r_s_simha ji,

    thanks a lottttttt for your innitiation.

    sach to ye hai ki iss sena (force) ka koi bhi head nahi hoga. hum sabhi baba ke sevak hai aur sabhi ek samaan hai.

    bas mujhe aap jaise bhai behno ki jarurat hai jo meri iss jung me mere kandhe se kandha mila kar sath chale.

    thanks omce again.

    oms ai ram.
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    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
    मुझसा कोई पापी तेरे दर पे ना आया होगा।
    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 12:49:57 AM »
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    • Hum sub saath hein Abhinavji.  Please do your best.  I will do whatever I can .

    Sai Baba hamare saath hein is ache kam ke liye........

    Sai Ram
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 11:14:36 AM »
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    • Rema JI,

    THANKS A LOTTTTTTT!

    SACH HAI-

    "MAI AKELA CHALA THA MAGAR LOG SATH MILTE GAYE AUR KAFILA BANTA GAYA"

    AAP SABKA SATH RAHA TO JARUR EK DIN "SAI NAME PROTECTION FORCE" (SAI NAAM RAKSHA SENA) BABA KE NAAM KI RAKSHA KREGI.

    OM SAI RAM.
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    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
    मुझसा कोई पापी तेरे दर पे ना आया होगा।
    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 08:28:01 PM »
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #9 on: November 24, 2007, 09:12:31 PM »
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    • Om Jai Sri Sai Ram Ji..

    Dear Abhinav Ji,

    May Baba bless you and guide you always

    God bless everyone
    Gaurav
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 11:09:40 PM »
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    • THANK YOU RAJIV BHAI,
    THANK YOU GAURAV JI.

    OM SAI RAM.
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    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
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    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 11:34:00 PM »
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    • Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha
    Om Sri Sainathaya Namaha

    Abinavji Sairam

    It is really a good intention of yours. A noble one indeed !

    It is always the natural law which precedes. Interpretations are tricky and ambiguous in many instances.

    Talking on the spiritual level, baba is the best judge. And only he can conclude on this. Remember the story of Maushibai in the SSC. He got wild when people intervened. Even with the Rohila shouting 'Allah oh Akbar ' in the nights was not condoned by baba though it disturbed many.

    On the worldly level, it is not just baba's name and pictures but many things happen in the name of God. Roads are blocked, processions taken, blaring loud speakers all in the name of God. And the courts have remained mum. Some of these have caused great inconvenience to others. Unless they have been blatant violation of the natural law (infringing on the right to live and exist) like Sati, sacrifice etc the various authorities, religious bodies and heads have remained quiet.

    The reason is every one has his / her own right and claim on God and his name. And god has not bestowed authority on any individual / organisation to protect God's own image and identity. Even our Lord Sai has not established a mutt or left successors.

    What one can do is start a movement, create awareness and bring about a change. And even then, remember, it might still be against Sai's wishes. He never really punished or took to task those who slandered against him. He was ever forgiving.

    It is always possible that many of these entrepreneurs / swamis / traditional doctors use the picture of our Lord to gain his blessing. Assuming that these people are not acting in good faith and are leveraging our Lord Sai's picture to con people, then one of the following could occur :
    1. If the prospect / client approaching the above have even a small amount of faith in our Lord Sai, definitely he will be dissuaded from falling prey to these people simce baba shall guide then.
    2. If the prospect / client has no faith in our Lord, then he will not gain the added convincing of the Lord's picture, so he shall be ever cautious.
    So either way, baba shall really take care of us.

    Please look into this in the right sense.
    Sairam
     
     
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 11:41:24 PM »
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    • ABHINAV BHAI,

    AAPKI ISS MOVEMENT KO SUPPORT KARTE HUE MAI YEH KEHNAA CHAHTAA HUN KI JAISE UN LOGON NE MEDIA KA SHAHARAA LETE HUE YEH GALAT KAAM KIYE HAI KYUN NAA HUM LOG BHI MIL KE APNE ISS FORUM KE BEHALF PAR IN LOGO KE KHILAAF PRINT MEDIA MEIN HI IN LOGO KO OPPOSE KAREIN.

    THANX
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
    « Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 11:51:54 PM »
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    • sureshsarat ji,
    om sai ram.

    sureshsarat ji, i am not as wise as you are.

    mai sahi legally sahi aur galat ka faisala to nahi kar paa raha hun magar dil me iss muhim ka faisala le chuaka hun.

    ye baat bilkul sach hai ki baba ne kabhi kisi ko dand (punish) nahi diya. magar dusht ke sath dushta karni hi padti hai.

    maine delhi police ke ek semior officer (jo baba ke bahutttttttttttttttt bahuttttttttttttt bade devotee bhi hai) se legal advise mangi hai.
    jald hi unka reply mujhe mil jaayega.

    iske alwava mai iss force me kuch politically strong background wale logo ko bhi involve karna chah raha hun taaki ye sena national level par kaam kar sake.aur kisi prakaar ki koi badha na aaye.

    mujhe apni koi chinta nahi hai.............mai local level par ye kaam jarur karunga..........i dont care for myself. but mai ye chahta hun ki poore desh me baba ke naam ko dushprachar se bachaya jaaye aur uske liye hame legal protection and kuch na kuch political help bhi chaiye hogi.

    mai janta hun ki baba ke kaam ke liye political logo ko involve karna uchit nahi hai. but mai sirf un logo ko invole karne ki koshish kar raha hun jo baba ke bahutttttttttt bade devotees hai. un logo ka iss force me koi involvement nahi  hoga, but agar woh log hamare sath aate hai to mai apne sai parivar ko protection de sakunga aur unse keh sakunga ki aap poori himmat se unlogo ka virodh kare............baba ne aapki raksha ka intjaam kar rakha hai.

    agar mera ye sapna sach nahi bhi hota hai to bhi.........mai akela hi in logo ka virodh jaur karunga.................apne level tak...........apni himmat tak....................

    "AAGE ALLAH MALIK"
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    Re: LEGAL ADVICE NEEDED
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    OM SAI RAM.

    AAPKA VICHAR BILKUL SAHI HAI.

    MERE DIL ME AUR BHI BAHUT SE RASTE HAI UNLOGO KO SAMJHANE KE.BUT USKE LIYE HUME EK BANNER KI JAURART HOGI.
    KYOKI MEDIA TO SANSANI CHAHTA HAI............MEDIA KO BABA KE NAAM SE KOI MATLAB NAHI HAI.

    ISS LIYE HUM SABKO UNITE HO KAR EK BANNER KE NEECHE AANA HOGA, TABHI MEDIA HAME SUPPORT KAREGA.

    YAHI VAJAH HAI KI MAI "SAI NAME PROTECTION FORCE"/ "SAI NAAM RAKSHA SENA" KA GATHAN KARNA CHAHTA HUN.

    WAISE HAMARA MAKSAD UNLOGO KO MAXIMUN WAY ME PREM SE HI SAMJHANA HOGA. PUNISH KARNE KA WAY TO LAST OPTION RAHEGA.

    KYOKI AGAR HUM HINSA KA RASTA APNATE HAI TO YE BHI SAMAJ ME BABA KE NAAM KO DEFAME DEGA.
    ISS LIYE YE LADAI TO HAME "GANDHIGIRI" SE HI LADNI HAI JAHA TAK POSSIBLE HO SAKE.

    AAP SAB MERE SATH HAI MAI AAP .....MERE LIYE ITNA SAHARA HI BAHUT HAI.MAGAR  ME MAI YE KEHNA CHAHTA HUN KI-

    ये इश्क नही आसान..........बस इतना समझ लिजिये,

    इक आग का दरिया है.........और डूब के जाना है।

    om sai ram.
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    मी पापी-पतित धीमंद । 
    तारणें मला गुरुनाथा, झडकरी ।।
    मुझसा कोई पापी तेरे दर पे ना आया होगा।
    और जो आया होगा, खाली लौटाया ना होगा॥
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