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Offline ShAivI

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Meditation for disturbed mind, Any ideas please .....
« on: June 07, 2011, 07:33:56 AM »
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  • I am really struggling with switching my mind off and concentrating. I have a very busy and disturbed mind right now and although the response may be to sort out the issues which are affecting me, that’s not so easy to do. The result is that whenever for meditation I sit, lay or do whatever and try to clear my mind, all the other stuff bombards me at the same time. I try to relax myself by imagining I was either sitting all alone in the forest or under the sea. I tried with soothing music and imagining myself sitting in front of sai, too.

    But, since yesterday, when a thought comes in I acknowledged it rather than try to block it, and re focus on the breath instead. This worked for me a little.

    I seem to have lost my earlier ability on meditation and wish very much to get it back again.

    Can I clarify what I am asking for ideas on? I am not looking for pointers in how to meditate it, although it’s all intermingled. I am specifically asking for ideas as to how to 'firewall' your mind against the random thoughts that keep on interfering, even for a short period so that you can achieve the state you wish to achieve.

    This is holding me back a lot. Any ideas please friends ...   :)

    Love & Light  :)
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    Om Sai Ram!
    « Last Edit: June 07, 2011, 12:54:33 PM by ShAivI »

    If you are sad n in pain, Be as the ocean, and release. The ocean tides don't pause and hold in anything, they ebb...and then they flow. Only briefly holding on top of a wave for a moment. If something from your past bubbles up, simply take a deep breath, and let it go. More love!
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    Re: Meditation for disturbed mind, Any ideas please .....
    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 05:45:09 AM »
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  • Dear ShAivI,

    Answer of your question in one word:

    “Awareness”

    What I can read out of your words, you seems to be confused between Tapa and Dhyan. In Tapa Mind is conditioned to be silent or under control, Mind to be zero or to have only thoughts that spirits allows, here spirit rules the mind and brain. Usually Yogis or Sadhak practice Tapa, as it is very difficult for ordinary humans, mind cannot be controlled forcefully.

    Meditation is simply to have focus on object or task with single mind/thought at a time. It is being aware to what you are doing, If you get mastery in this, 90% of your problem will be sorted out straightway, in simple language If one is in kitchen, He should concentrate only on cooking and not any TV Serial, If taking bath one should enjoy bathing, But mind remain in office, In office mind keep on wondering on different concerns and not on the project in hand. If one become so efficient to concentrate on task in hand, and remain in present free from Past Burdens or Future dreams, Life would be much better.

    So again as per my experience it is only “Awareness” or Awakening the spirit, It will also reveal what is reality and keep mind refresh, as mind will not lose its energy in unnecessary future thoughts. (Don’t confuse with planning of future).

    You said not to discuss meditation technique, But Just for the benefit of other brothers and sisters who are just in the way to begin their journey on this path. I’d like to share some tips out of my experience and knowledge:

    1. Just count your step when ever walk.

    2. Never get into any sort of gossips when ever visit any religious place, instead sit quietly, at
    least visit some times when there is less crowd, e.g. Sai Temple on any working day other than Thursday. (If You are regular visitor on Thursday then addition to that day).

    3. If possible use Tratak, Candle – Moon – Sun – Water as per level of practice, On still objects and Later Moving Objects.

    4. Practice Visualization, Imagine and  Visualize yourself at a particular place in particular dress and advance in this technique think about Baba in shirdi in period near 1910’s or if you read Sai satcharitra, Feel your presence in those Leelas. 

    5. Observe the pattern of thoughts, In a day at a particular time emotion for Love and harmony arise in mind, Some time it is hatred, some times self-destruction, Come out from auto-pilot stage, Start thinking at your own will, Don’t be on mercy of mind. Mind can never be kept vacated for long unless you have great practice, So you have to replace thoughts, negative to positive!

    I also recommend a Book “Dhyan Diksha” by Sirshree. This is beautiful, simple yet very useful book on meditation.

    Baba Sai’s Path is always beautiful and so simple, But We have become habitual of making life complicated that to live a simple life at our own, We find so difficult! We depend on others for our happiness while we only have key of happiness!

    This is what I can Say, But this is just a drop in the sea, So would request other learnt member to share their experiences so that we can go further or improve some areas.


    om sri sai ram!
    om sai ram!
    Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
    Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
    ........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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    Re: Meditation for disturbed mind, Any ideas please .....
    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 08:25:47 AM »
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  • Just adding:

    If One find very difficult to control on thoughts, which keep on wondering specially when they need to concentrate on study or any special project, They must practice Gyan Mudra*. This is very useful to make mind stable and to increase power to focus on single point.

    *Gyan Mudra – A Posture Thumb and index fingers touch at tips, usually Used in prayers or meditation. (Use Google to know more)


    om sri sai ram!
    om sai ram!
    Anant Koti Brahmand Nayak Raja Dhi Raj Yogi Raj, Para Brahma Shri Sachidanand Satguru Sri Sai Nath Maharaj !
    Budhihin Tanu Janike, Sumiro Pavan Kumar, Bal Budhi Vidhya Dehu Mohe, Harahu Kalesa Vikar !
    ........................  बाकी सब तो सपने है, बस साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है, साईं ही तेरे अपने है !!

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    "Spiritual Reality - A Journey Within"
    « Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 10:42:44 AM »
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  • Om Sai Ram, Saibji,

    Thank You for Your Beautiful Explanation, would definitely follow them!  :) :D
    i m sorry for my late response  :-[

    Saibji, my problem is, for the past few months, I have been questioning myself -
    I have been meditating, practicing positive thinking, acceptance, surrender, letting go etc etc.
    Still why each day I feel like a big struggle?
    What is that I am missing here?
    Am I not learning the lessons my life situations are presenting?
    why i am not getting the answers and help  through meditation?

    I am in a quest to find these answers and hence in a state of confused mind, thought of sharing my feelings
    through a thread  "meditation for disturbed mind"  and to get guidance and help from learned & knowlegeable persons from my DM family.

    Once again, Thank You Saibji,

    Last week, while surfing on the net, found very beautiful, great video on meditation which i would like to share with my Dwarkamai family, an amazzzzzing link (
    feature=related) a video on meditation,  kindly watch atleast once,

    "Spiritual Reality - A Journey Within"  is 60 Minutes of Breathtaking Video on Meditation

    This is the outcome of extensive research by Spiritual Masters through Meditation.
    A step by step Meditation Visual Guide.
    A video to learn and practice Meditation.

    Spiritual Reality is the answer to ...

    * Be Healthy Joyful and Peaceful
    * Be Blissful at all given times and situations
    * Achieve whatever you want
    * Become a miraculous Creator

    Contents :

    * Cosmic Energy
    * Meditaion
    * Pyramid Meditation
    * Etheric Body
    * Third Eye
    * Astral Travel
    * Nirvana
    * Enlightenment
    * Life after Life

    This “Spiritual Reality” takes you through a unique journey
    A journey which will change your life,
    A journey which will enrich you.
    And make you knowledgeable and peaceful.
    “Spiritual Reality” is a programme on meditation and meditational experiences
    While you watch this programme,
    be totally relaxed,
    just witness it,
    just flow with it.
    Don’t try to analyze it.
    Totally be with it.
    If any thought comes,
    cut the thoughts,
    take a deep breath
    and
    JUST BE WITH IT

    IT IS JUST FOR YOU!


    Be Blessed!
    LOve & Light!
    Om Sai Ram! :)

    If you are sad n in pain, Be as the ocean, and release. The ocean tides don't pause and hold in anything, they ebb...and then they flow. Only briefly holding on top of a wave for a moment. If something from your past bubbles up, simply take a deep breath, and let it go. More love!
       :-* :-* :-*

     


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